Robin’s Rambles – Supernatural 8.08: “Hunteri Heroici”
Hunteri Heroici
Robin’s Rambles
Robin Vogel
Oklahoma City, OK – A woman meets her lover and his heart literally beats right out of his chest–and explodes messily all over her.
At a gas station, the brothers learn Kevin and his mother are staying with Garth on his houseboat–and that Cas has tuned out heaven because he wants nothing to do with that place anymore. He now wants to be a hunter–their third wheel, and he’s found the OK case for them to work on. Dean won’t let him zap around, however, he must ride in the Impala–and not in the front seat!
A pretty detective gives them (FBI) the skinny in the case, along with a folder. She takes Dean’s card when he asks her to let him know about any other weird stuff and calls him Scully. Cas smells a recent bladder infection from the dead man, but no EMF or sulphur. Sam and Dean figure out he was having an affair with Olivia, something Cas did NOT smell, and the dude was married–perhaps his wife learned of the affair and is a witch?
Flashback: Awaiting a visit from Amelia’s father, Sam finds a photo album that says “Amelia and Don forever.” She’s nervous that they’re moving too fast and her father will agree, Sam reassures her with kisses and love. Dad loves the dog, but not Sam, who tries to please, but fails. You look like a real fixer upper to me, says Dad.
In questioning the man’s widow, Cas (aka Stills) says he can break her, and gets right in her face and screams, WHY DID YOU KILL YOUR HUSBAND?! Turns out the wife is friends with Olivia, the mistress, and completely accepted the affair. “Frigging suburbs,” says Dean, “she’s the best wife EVER!”
A man steps off a building and doesn’t fall right away; he stands on air, thinking God wants him to live, before plummeting to his death.
The pretty detective calls in the FBI because of the weird nature of this case, like something straight out of Bugs Bunny. “Insect-rabbit hybrid?” Cas asks. The brothers try to explain cartoons to Cas, but must show him some to get the point across. He thinks the bird reps God, the coyote, man, endlessly chasing the divine, yet never. . .hilarious. Cas hears that a bank has been robbed; it sounds looney.
Bank – They find a security guard crushed under an anvil. The detective wants to know if they chase the crazy or vice versa. There’s a black hole burglar driving them crazy–no fingerprints, no sign of force entry, just a pair of large, painted black holes, like he’s signing his work. Sam asks to see the files on the other break ins. Dean asks Cas to lift the anvil. Underneath is a big X. “X marks the spot,” says Dean, playing by cartoon rules. Dean has no idea why the hole isn’t working now.
Hotel room – reading his journal, Cas admires John’s beautiful handwriting. Dean asks Cas how he’s feeling, citing that it took him time to find his sea legs after returning from Purgatory. “I’m fine,” Cas asserts. “I’m thrilled you’re back,” says Dean, “it’s just this mysterious resurrection thing.” Even though he hates those flying ass monkeys as much as Cas, Dean wants him to go to heaven, ask the God squad how he got out. Cas refuses, angrily: “I SAID NO.” “Talk to me,” urges Dean quietly. “I vaporized thousands of my own kind up there,” says Cas, “and I’m afraid if I see what I did to it, I might kill myself.” Sam returns and reveals that the guy who robbed the bank robbed a house at exactly the same time. A lot of crazy little things happened around each robbery, like a kid falling and sprouting a four-inch lump. The power isn’t targeted, it’s like an area of effect–he’s in a bubble of weird, and whatever touches it gets daffy. “This Animaniac can step through walls, toss an anvil?” Dean asks. “Yes, but he’s warping reality to do it,” answers Sam, “if someone nearby is meeting the girl of his dreams. . .” “. . .his heart makes a break for it,” finishes Dean, “Smashing the rental cop was on purpose, but the other stuff was just collateral weird.” “Maybe,” says Sam, “and wherever he hit belonged to patients at the Sunset Hills Retirement Home.” Dean announces it’s wabbit season, and Cas tells him he mispronounced that.
Sunset Hills – Dean gets the heebie-jeebies from all the elderly residents, but Sam is more tolerant. They tell Dr. Mahoney they need to talk to his patients about Grand Larceny. Dean warns his partners against flirting. (lol!) One woman thinks Cas is Charles, her third husband. They have to remind her about her stolen jewels and bearer bonds. Which she hid from Charles, who was quite the bounder. She tells them the cat talks sometimes, so Cas goes to interrogate the feline.
An orderly tells Sam that a lot of these people can’t deal with the real world, so they tune out and live in their own worlds.
Flashback: Amelia serves her delighted dad hot dogs and spaghetti for dinner, something he loved from the Army. When Sam tells him John was a Marine, the man says, “I always thought they were a little puffed up, myself.” (sorry, this guy was a total dick to Sam.) Knowing that Sam never served, he waits until Amelia leaves them alone and says, “I find that hard to believe–you got the look–the one a lot of guys get that lets you know they’ve seen a lot of crap they can’t forget–second their feet hit solid ground, they start running, and they don’t stop, not until they find something to hold onto.” “You think that’s what I’m doing here?” Sam demands. “I think the two of you are holding onto each other, yeah,” he accuses, “cuz I know she’s scared after what happened to Don, I don’t blame her for taking off–the question is, what are you running from, Sam?”
Sam spies a photo on the wall of a man they both knew as kids–Fred Jones. He was psychokinetic and gave each of them their first beer. He lives here. They scoop up Cas, who has nearly “broken” the cat, and who calls him dumbass, aloud, when he leaves.
Fred is intently watching cartoons when Cas and the brothers arrive. To test the “circle of crazy” surrounding Fred, Dean strikes himself with a book. Sure enough, there is a cartoonish sound of birds tweeting when he strikes himself. “Bingo,” says Dean. “But how?” Cas asks. He can re-shape reality, they realize. “Where’s his off switch?” Dean wonders. “Do we kill him?” Cas asks. Dr. Mahoney enters and points to Cas. “Did he just threaten to murder one of my patients?” Mahoney asks in consternation. The three FBI agents are tossed from the nursing home.
They agree to go back at night to get Fred out, but send Cas back to watch him.
With Fred sitting by watching a cartoon, an ordinary birthday candle turns into a firecracker that sends a cake exploding all over the TV set and wall. Cas calls Sam and Dean to come to the nursing home in light of this “pastry mishap,” but Fred has disappeared. A nurse tells them they’re not supposed to be here. Mrs. Tate tells “Charles” the girl is wearing her diamonds, and they ask her where she got that stolen diamond bracelet. “My boyfriend,” she replies, sending the threesome to an apartment.
They find one of the bearer bonds of Mrs. Tate’s, and a badly injured man, who Cas heals. He explains that Dr. Mahoney has been using Fred, and that Fred is magic–a few weeks ago, he slammed his foot flat in a door and when he shook it, it popped right back up, just like in a cartoon. He and Mahoney have been using Fred for robberies ever since, but once the FBI appeared and the cake blew up, Mahoney said he was going to use Fred for one more bank robbery, then kill him. When this guy objected, Mahoney shot him.
Cas wonders if Fred knows what’s happening. “I think he’s living in a dream world,” opines Dean.
Flashback: Amelia’s father tells her that she’s living in a dream world as Sam overhears in the kitchen. He insists Sam’s a mess. “So am I,” says Amelia, but Sam makes her happy. Dad comes in and offers to dry. He asks about the Impala, and when Sam reveals it was his father’s, the other man comments, “Good taste–for a jarhead.”
Bank – the hole is open! “Awesome!” Dean enters.
Cas and Sam find Fred in a van watching cartoons on a laptop, but they can’t break through to him by talking. Cas gets them directly into his mind, where they are in the middle of the cartoon. He recalls Sam as the scrawny one and doesn’t realize 20 years have passed. Sam begs him to focus; Fred suspiciously asks why he’s here.
“What’s up, Doc?” Dean asks Mahoney, who is emptying valuables from a safety deposit box into a bag.
Fred accuses Sam of lying, even though Cas assures him it’s true. Fred can’t believe he’s some psychic Coppertop–“plug me in and the whole world goes whacky.” Sam points out that he’s been spending more time in here than out there. Through angrily gritted teeth, Fred tells them the worst thing about being a guy with a mind like his–losing it.
“Let me walk, half of this is yours,” Mahoney offers Dean, who refuses to steal from little old ladies. “I’m stealing from their children,” corrects Mahoney, “selfish little bastards who visit their parents twice a year.” They fight, Dean fires, a flag saying BANG pops from his gun instead of a bullet. Dr. Mahoney taunts, “Welcome to the fun house,” and runs.
Fred loved cartoons from when he was a kid–safe, happy, something to hold onto. (like Sam and Amelia?)
Dean (hunterus heroicus) jumps Mahoney (grotesque villanus). Dr. Mahoney pulls out a frying pan and hits Dean with it, leaving a perfect impression of Dean’s face in the pan. Dean is dazed and falls backward. “I’ve been dealing with this crazy for months. You idiot, bring a gun to a gag fight.” Dean pulls out a marker, proclaiming X marks the spot, but the doc steps off the X so the anvil misses him.
Sam asks Fred to take control. “I can’t!” Fred cries, “it’s too hard!” “I know it can be nice living in a dream world,” says Sam, “but you can’t do it forever, eventually, whatever you’re running from, it’ll find you, punch you in the gut–you gotta wake up, cuz trying to keep that dream alive will destroy you–destroy everything!” Everything turns light. . .
Back in the real world, Mahoney tries to leap through a hole, but it’s closed. “Looks like someone turned off the boob tube,” observes Dean. Mahoney draws his gun. “NO!” Shouts Fred, pointing his finger–“you are not going to hurt anyone ever again!” He forces Mahoney to turn the gun around and shoot himself dead. “That’s all, folks,” says Dean.
Sam asks Fred if he’s good. “NOW I’m good,” he replies, “in a month, year. . .nobody gets sharper with age–I’m gonna lose control again and someone’s gonna get hurt again.” Cas knows a way–painful, and there might be very little left of Fred. “Well, what are you waiting for?” Fred demands.
Next time we see him, Fred is sitting, staring out a window, smiling. He’s listening to “Ode to Joy,” Cas informs Sam and Dean, “He’s happy.” Dean offers to let him ride shotgun, but Cas declines–and he’s transported to Naomi’s desk in heaven. He has to come back to heaven, to make things right, he insists. “No,” she says, “bottom line, unless I ring my bell, you stay out of heaven.” “What should I do?” Cas asks. “What do you want to do?” She counters.
Cas returns and says he must stay with Fred for a few days, then he’s not sure. “When I know I can’t run anymore.”
Flashback: Amelia’s father is regaling Sam with a funny story about a play in which she played a sugar plum fairy, waddling onstage dragging two feet of toilet paper behind her. They’re all laughing. The phone rings. Amelia answers. Sam tells her father he lost his brother and he ran. “I’m sorry about that,” the other man says. Stunned, Amelia returns to them and says, “It’s Don. He’s alive.” Sam stares at her, stunned.
Dean slaps Sam’s arm. Time to go. “Ode to Joy” swells on the soundtrack as Cas sits beside a smiling Fred, who is closing his eyes, staring out the window together.
1. Was it me, or did all Sam’s flashbacks seem to be in dreamy camerawork? Did Sam dream Amelia and their life together? Was he hospitalized all this time?
2. Assuming Amelia was real, and Don came back, was he a ghost, vampire or revenant? Did he kill Amelia?
3. This was a cool episode. I loved what it said about aging and how much it sucks. It even made an interesting comment about children who stick parents in nursing homes, visit rarely and collect an undeserved inheritance.
4. What did you think of Fred’s dream world? Would you like to live there?
5. There were many parallels between Sam’s world and Fred’s, which is what makes me wonder if Sam’s is real to begin with. “You’re living in a dream world” said Amelia’s father. Was this Sam speaking to himself?
6. Yay or nay on this episode, and why?
7. I loved what Cas did for Fred. It made me cry with joy. I think Cas is earning his redemption, one human at a time. Bravo, Cas.
Great summary, and all interesting questions!
I really enjoyed this episode, have always loved Looney Tunes, and I think they put in just enough wackiness without it being too much. The test screens in Fred’s mind where the best! (ok. Showing my age there, I guess)
When Dean’s gun went BANG, both my husband and I laughed and yelled, of course it did!
Loved Mike Farrell, wish his part had been a bit bigger.
What on earth will Cas choose to do now?? Can you imagine a rogue angel wandering the earth? How far will Naomi let him go?
And I am SO confused about the angels and mostly about Sam… I am absolutely sure there is SOMETHING not right about his memories, though…. There was enough in this episode to have me hanging on for the reveal. (Pray to Cas and to Chuck that there truly is one worth waiting for!)
[quote]1. Was it me, or did all Sam’s flashbacks seem to be in dreamy camerawork? Did Sam dream Amelia and their life together? Was he hospitalized all this time?[/quote] Sam’s flashbacks are something I’ve stopped thinking about, to be honest. Not because they’re not lovely (cos they are) or interesting (cos they really are) but because they’re so confusing that if I keep thinking about them I’ll end up in need of Botox, such is the brow furrowing those damn flashbacks have induced. And I’m sorry, but no storyline on earth is worth fine lines….
Though that being said, Amelia’s dad (if he’s real) is very, very intuitive. And Don could win an Olympic medal in the ‘bad timing’ competition!
I don’t think Sam was hospitalised because (a) it’d be fierce fecking convenient that he happened to get out the same time that Dean got out and (b) it’d mean there’s another reason not to trust Sam. Jeez, how do you trust a guy who [i]hallucinated[/i] a year of his life? Plus, I’d be wary of the show’s ability to deal with mental health issues. Not only do they not have a good track record of it, I think it’s too delicate an issue to be dealt with adequately on what is essentially considered to be a monster show.
[quote]2. Assuming Amelia was real, and Don came back, was he a ghost, vampire or revenant? Did he kill Amelia?[/quote] I know a Don and I trust him so Dean, don’t be so mean….. If he was dead (and do the army make mistakes like that often??) and he was brought back (is it SOP that, in a situation like that, Amelia would be told over the phone by her husband, and not in person by someone from the military?) then I’d put my money on the angels; Benny was a plant by the angels for Dean, Amelia/Don by the angels for Sam. Sam and Dean are needed so Benny’s presence brought Dean back to the hunt, Don’s brought Sam back to the hunt. Plus, Sam would be able to sniff out a ghost, vampire or revenant pretty easy. Once he heard it was Don on the phone it was probably his first thought.
[quote]3. This was a cool episode. I loved what it said about aging and how much it sucks. It even made an interesting comment about children who stick parents in nursing homes, visit rarely and collect an undeserved inheritance.[/quote] This bit made me sad. I spent a year teaching basic computer literacy to senior citizens so I spent a lot of time in nursing homes and what not and I would often leave there quite melancholy. It’s hard to describe adequately why but they can be pretty depressing places.
[quote]4. What did you think of Fred’s dream world? Would you like to live there?[/quote] Ah no, not really. I think, of all ills that could befall me, not being in control of my mind would be the one thing I couldn’t cope with.
[quote]5. There were many parallels between Sam’s world and Fred’s, which is what makes me wonder if Sam’s is real to begin with. “You’re living in a dream world” said Amelia’s father. Was this Sam speaking to himself?[/quote] The whole episode could be perceived as Sam speaking to himself. (It struck me as being quite like the scene in WtLB when young Sam is talking to Sam.) Everything Amelia’s dad said about Amelia could also apply to Sam. Everything Mr. Jones said could also apply to Sam. You could even apply some of what Castiel said to Sam.
The Mr. Jones bit was interesting though, especially when it mentioned ‘a mind like his’. Sam’s mind would not be too different to Mr Jones’s mind in that they are (were?) both powerful psychics. It kind of made me wonder if we could see a re-emergence of Sam’s abilities, and this is why he didn’t look for Dean. It’d also make sense for him to not say that to Dean. It could go to explain why Sam was able to do that backwards exorcism and doesn’t seem in the slight bit rusty after his year out. I know it’s very unlikely but it’s a sleep deprived musing!
[quote]6. Yay or nay on this episode, and why?[/quote] Yay, I guess. There were some laugh out loud moments. I’d forgotten that it was based on cartoons (it’s on very early in the morning, leave me alone…..) so when Dean shot the gun and it went ‘Bang’ I did have one such moment, and I loved the freeze frame of the [i]Hunterus Heroicus[/i] and [i]Grotesques Villainus[/i].
I also really liked the flashbacks. Apart from the ‘Holy crap, a sweater with pulled up sleeves’ element of it (if that sweater was either light grey or blue and Sam was wearing horn rimmed glasses then my heart could possibly have stopped) Sam was just so genuine and sincere in them they were really heart warming to see; he’d make a great boyfriend! (I’m not going to go into the content of the flashbacks because of the wrinkles they induce so I’m just focusing on the aesthetics of them.)
Also good; the mentions of John. Good to know that his writing is not ‘chickenscratch’ but can seemingly only be read by angels. Positive proof that Sam and Dean are, in fact, devils (that came from their mother….)
That being said….. I do feel rather sad when I think about the episode; not just because of how the elderly were being treated and used but also the idea that Sam’s quest for normal has, once again, hit an insurmountable dead end saddens me. I really dislike the idea that for someone else (Amelia/Dean) to be happy Sam may have to give up something (Amelia/normal) he wants. That bothers me. I don’t like the idea that, if Sam ends up hunting, it’s because he failed at normal so hunting is all he has left. I don’t particularly want to see that acceptance from Sam. If that was the case would it mean an end to the idea of free will, to hope? Maybe I’m overreacting (again!) but that as a possible eventuality bothers me.
[quote]7. I loved what Cas did for Fred. It made me cry with joy. I think Cas is earning his redemption, one human at a time. Bravo, Cas.[/quote] I didn’t. I’m sorry but I didn’t. I know it was nice and all, but for me, no. I’d rather just be sent on a journey to the great beyond. Plus, some of that classical musical stuff can get pretty rowdy so they might see Mr. Jones again!
Thanks for this, Robin.
[quote]The Mr. Jones bit was interesting though, especially when it mentioned ‘a mind like his’. Sam’s mind would not be too different to Mr Jones’s mind in that they are (were?) both powerful psychics. It kind of made me wonder if we could see a re-emergence of Sam’s abilities, and this is why he didn’t look for Dean. It’d also make sense for him to not say that to Dean. It could go to explain why Sam was able to do that backwards exorcism and doesn’t seem in the slight bit rusty after his year out. I know it’s very unlikely but it’s a sleep deprived musing! [/quote]
I briefly considered that too because of Crowley’s acerbic line during the auction, “You can’t send all my back-eyed boys back to Hell — can you, Samantha?” But Crowley could have been just taunting him about the past, or it could have been only to draw attention to the shutting-the-gates-of-Hell plot. Still, the presence or absence of Sam’s powers has been an open question since he returned from the cage. He would probably want nothing to do with the powers again under normal circumstances, but I wonder what would happen during such a crisis. It might well scare the hell out of him.
1. Was it me, or did all Sam’s flashbacks seem to be in dreamy camerawork? Did Sam dream Amelia and their life together? Was he hospitalized all this time?
I haven’t developed a theory yet. The fbs seem to be dreamy and lighter each time. Must mean they are not reality. We still don’t know what happened to Sam right after losing Dean. (Don?) Maybe he had a split persona and was both Sam and Amelia? When he was healing, perhaps that was when the dad appeared, making another split of his persona, in order to help him back to reality. What the heck do I know? Fascinating, anyway! And why did he tell the dad that the Impala was his father’s? Why not tell him it was his brother Dean’s? That would have been more likely. Unless Dean has disappeared in his mind and become “Don”???? Because he is unable to bear losing Dean again. :sigh: And the phone call from “Don”, making Sammy remember “Dean”.
I hope we find out how Sam knew Dean was at the cabin and why they didn’t seem that surprised to see each other.
2. Assuming Amelia was real, and Don came back, was he a ghost, vampire or revenant? Did he kill Amelia?
Don’t really know, but see answer to 1. Perhaps Don (Dean) coming back killed the Amelia in Sam’s persona. Geez! It really starts hurting my puny brain!
3. This was a cool episode. I loved what it said about aging and how much it sucks. It even made an interesting comment about children who stick parents in nursing homes, visit rarely and collect an undeserved inheritance.
I can testify that aging sucks!
4. What did you think of Fred’s dream world? Would you like to live there?
No, I definitely wouldn’t want to live there. But when I was a kid there was no TV, so I loved my “Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies” comic books. Loved Bugs, Elmer Fudd, Daffy, Yosemite, Wiley Coyote and Roadrunner, so I really enjoyed the episode.
5. There were many parallels between Sam’s world and Fred’s, which is what makes me wonder if Sam’s is real to begin with. “You’re living in a dream world” said Amelia’s father. Was this Sam speaking to himself?
I guess I believe that, yes. Right at this time. They will no doubt surprise me later on.
6. Yay or nay on this episode, and why?
Yay indeed! Brought back some old memories and also made Sammy’s situation even more confusing. Loved Cas sitting with Fred. Don’t like Naomi at all right now. Probably never will. Don’t trust that angel.
7. I loved what Cas did for Fred. It made me cry with joy. I think Cas is earning his redemption, one human at a time. Bravo, Cas.
I like Cas this season so far. I hope he remains trustworthy even when manipulated, as I also hope for Benny to be.
Speaking of Naomi, if you really think about it, why would sealing the gates of hell be a good thing? Yes, it would keep the demons out, but what about all the wicked vicious people who die? Where would they go? Just remain here as vicious spirits? That could be chaotic and dangerous to everyone! Those souls would have to go somewhere or just stay here. I don’t think Kevin or the boys have really thought it all through thoroughly. Also, what about poor Adam? He would be stuck in the cage forever!
Thanks Robin, I always appreciate your review as I get to understand all the dialogue that I missed the first time.
[quote]And why did he tell the dad that the Impala was his father’s? Why not tell him it was his brother Dean’s? [/quote]
That was the one part of the flashbacks that I truly liked, because of its subtlety in an episode that really lacked it. Sam is linking the car to the wound that has scabbed over rather than the one that is fresh. That is a a nicely understated way of showing us that he’s avoiding his grief.
[quote][quote]And why did he tell the dad that the Impala was his father’s? Why not tell him it was his brother Dean’s? [/quote]
That was the one part of the flashbacks that I truly liked, because of its subtlety in an episode that really lacked it. Sam is linking the car to the wound that has scabbed over rather than the one that is fresh. That is a a nicely understated way of showing us that he’s avoiding his grief.[/quote]
Oh nice. Great interpretation.