It’s All About Souls
OK, Friday everything I write right now may be obsolete, but I can’t help myself speculating about Cas and Crowley.
I think it used to be that way: Good people go to Heaven. Bad people go to Hell. Some people become monsters and go to Purgatory. Few people sell their souls and go to Hell too. That was the natural order. Heaven, Hell and Purgatory use souls for some kind of energy. And now because the apocalypse was prevented everything is a mess.
Why did the Cas/Crowley cooperation start?
Instead of a Heaven/Hell/Purgatory triangle (even if we didn’t know about the latter) there is Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, Crowley and Cas.
Cas was all of a sudden the “new Sheriff” in town and had to fight a war against the other angels who followed Raphael. Apparently Raphael had access to the power of the souls in Heaven but not Castiel because he was losing the war. So he had to find another way to win the war, meaning having access to souls. Crowley was probably in a similar situation. We know, even with Lucifer in the cage not all demons followed Crowley. He complained about that so he had like Castiel a kind of civil war going on. Cas and Crowley knew each other; they had similar problems so it would have been logical to work together.
When did the Cas/Crowley cooperation start?
I guess right after “Swan Song” because that was when we the civil war in Heaven started, from this point on there where new players involved.
So…?!
Not too long ago Cas was a good, proud angel of the Lord. Then he met the Winchesters. Under their influence he learned to think for himself and making own decisions. He rebelled against heaven but not against God because God brought him back at least twice. So God probably liked what Cas was doing. Cas learned to make his own decisions but who says he made the right ones.
Clearly we have to doubt a lot what we learned this season from Cas and Crowley. I’m thinking about the monster prison from “Caged Heat” and Sam’s soul and how Cas and Crowley agreed on not returning it to Sam. Balthazar’s “helpful tip” about tainting Sam’s body with patricide could have been on Cas’ behalf. Even Cas being furious about Balthazar buying souls seems different now. I think Sam’s soul was in the cage (we saw it when the wall came down) but maybe not for the whole time.
As long we had SoullessSam wandering around Dean was kept busy with collecting monsters and worrying about Sam and SoullessSam didn’t care about anything.
In the preview we hear Cas praying to God witch is the smartest thing he can do, but probably not helpful.
Time for some speculations: What if Crowley and Cas together got Sam out of the cage and Crowley left on purpose Sam’s soul behind? Cas got Grandpa out of Heaven to team up with Sam. They go fetching monsters to find out where Purgatory is so Cas and Crowley can get the monster souls. This all brings up MOA and also upsets Death and the natural order.
Don’t forget Crowley and Cas were not successful because by now they couldn’t get their hands on Purgatory and the souls in there. So Cas is very desperate and sends Balthazar back in time to unsink the Titanic with the known result. Right now Cas must be desperately in need for energy/souls to win the war
In the preview Cas says they will die over and over again if this would be Star Trek, I would guess a time loop, but I don’t think Supernatural will go there.
Great speculation. For my money, you are right on target. I will be interested to see exactly HOW the power of the souls is used. Also, as you alluded to; Sam and Dean were kept busy for a year as Robo-Sam and ‘worried’ Dean, but I think that there was another reason Sam was brought back souless. I’m still betting his soul is worth more. He sacrificed his life to end the apocolypse and save humanity. Even Dean once referred to Sam as a nuclear weapon. I agree his soul was in Hell, at least for a time, but I think Cas didn’t want it back in Sam for a reason, and not because it was in the cage or only because it was “damaged”. Or, maybe it was in the cage the whole time, but he felt it was safer there until Death (and Dean) thwarted that plan.
Either way, I’m wondering how Sam will be made whole again (in season 7?). I can’t wait to see what they’ll come up with to heal him. I’ve pondered the idea that if his soul IS worth more, perhaps it is stronger than Cas has told them; maybe even stronger than Cas thinks. Perhaps Sam is the secret to the whole thing. And I mean THE WHOLE THING- the entire pupose and ultimate end of the show. Or, it’s going to be the brotherly bond that wins in the end. After all, that’s this show’s theme: Family. That’s going way out on speculating; past this season, anyway, but I am tripping down the lane a bit! Sorry. Got on a roll, there.
Hi fanotheboyz
SoullessSam was first quiete ok getting his Soul back only after Cas and Crowley and Meg agreed on “Bad Idea” he changed his mind.
Is what makes Sam whole the cliffhanger or the theme of the last ep? We´ll find out soon.
Remember at the beginning of the season, the tagline was ‘trust no one’. We now know that went for Gramps, for Soulless One and now Cas.
Knowing that Sam had no soul, we were able to see the beginning of the season in a different light. Now knowing that Cas was working with Crowley, we also see all the Cas and Crowley interactions differently.
Maybe Cas didn’t want Death to give Sam back his soul, because he was holding it in reserve for his ‘master plan’. Bad Cas.
This explains how Gramps got out of Heaven, because a demon would not have been able to get him. Bad Cas.
Damn, all the pieces are coming together, and we know that Sam’s wall is going to come down. We also know that there is going to be a cliffhanger with deaths.
Ladies and gentlemen, get the tissues.
I forgot completly about the tagline. Thanks for remind me.
Dear Junkerin, for us in Europe, the waiting will be over tomorrow, and new speculations will arise, I reckon.
I don’t want to speculate, and yet I find myself doing it all the time :-* . I keep thinking of possible moves and reasons, and I still believe that Castiel had a good reason (in his mind) to team up with Crowley.
Personally, I think he did it because he was desperate (much like the reason, Sam eventually teamed up with Ruby – for being desperate since there seemed no other way to save his brother and the planet), and thought that this was his only chance to bring on significant change.
Then again, judging from the clip with Sera Gamble, we will learn something about Castiel’s past – and perhaps he chose to work with Crowley because he was disappointed with God.
Ah, the suspense is killing me.
I hate this show. I love this show. I am stocking up on tissues.
I love the idea of souls being some kind of fuel, a ‘nuclear reactor’,and brought together you get the sun.
Angels as soul-vampires? It’s a wonderful image in terms of storytelling and mystery.
can’T wait to see this next episode, but I’m also avoiding it. I have a lot of things to do before I get to watch it tomorrow. Freud would say, my subconscious arranged it for me that way, because I am freaked out by what might come to pass.
and I am.
Thanks for this, Junkerin! Cheers, Jas