Spoilers for Supernatural Episode 11.12
We have some new spoilers devoted to tomorrow’s episode.
EW released a new exclusive clip.
The Mary Sue covered the episode in Carry On, Wayward Daughters: Is Supernatural Turning the Focus on Women?.
The show also tried unsuccessfully (so far) to launch a spin-off, but fans didn’t respond strongly to the season nine attempt at a back door pilot “Bloodlines.” However the episode that aired before “Bloodlines,” “Alex Annie Alexis Ann,” which told an unexpected and dynamic story almost solely focused on women, may have sowed the seeds instead by allowing Jody Mills to become a hero and surrogate mother to Alex. In the season ten episode “Angel Heart” when Sam and Dean put Claire Novak in a taxi to join Jody and Alex, the fans immediately saw a perfect opportunity for the show to possibly solve the pair of problems. As soon as the episode ended, Twitter and Tumblr were calling for a “Wayward Daughters” spin-off. Within days of the airing of “Angel Heart,” fans Riley Keshner and Betty Days were spear-heading an internet Wayward Daughters campaign which included fan art, a Change.org petition for a spin-off, an official logo, and even a Latin motto.
Will this spin off come about? It’s too early to tell but the article notes
Producers and writers of the show have been tweeting with the #WaywardDaughters hashtag though, and are aware of the demand and passion of the fans. The actors are thrilled as well. What remains to be seen of course is if “Don’t You Forget About Me” is what fans have hoped for. Although Ramdeen wasn’t going to spoil anything, she did note that “the Supernatural Fandom is a force to be reckoned with, and I know that the show is well aware of the frenzy in the fans for this kind of content. I think everyone is going to love this episode, not only because of the Jody-Alex-Claire dynamic and screen-time, but also because it is simply beautifully written, shot, acted, directed!”
The desire for a Wayward Daughters Academy has sparked a Thunderclap campaign. to promote #WaywardDaughters on Twitter tomorrow.
What is Thunderclap?
Thunderclap is the first crowd-speaking platform that helps people be heard by saying something together.
How does it work?
If you reach your supporter goal, Thunderclap will blast out a timed Twitter, Facebook, or Tumblr post from all your supporters, creating a wave of attention.
Interested? Just go to the Wayward Daughters Thunderclap page, add your Twitter account and tomorrow, when the show starts you will be part of an email blast. Even if you don’t care about the spin off, this campaign can help boost Supernatural’s Nielsen Twitter ratings. At the very least, it may convince Supernatural to not kill off Jody!
Just saw the sneak peek and it does look like Jody and the Scooby gang that they tried with Chrissy. One promo teased that Sam would be giving Jody some advice on dealing with teenage hunters (specially rebellious ones). It is written by Nancy Won and I did enjoy Thin Lizzie so here’s hoping that it won’t stop the momentum of the season too much.
Sorry, but that clip did nothing to make me better disposed to Claire’s reappearance. As soon as she started with the mouthy, annoying teenager shtick I came perilously close to barfing. When the nausea subsided, I felt an overwhelming urge to smack her bratty little face. Since that was not possible, I began hoping that Alex would give her a smack. I was actually enjoying Alex in the clip, but I hope the clip isn’t indicative of Claire’s behavior throughout the ep, or it will be hard to sit through the whole ep. It would be a shame too, because even though I will never be a fan of the character, she was actually OK in Angel Heart. I did not actively despise her in that one. In her other eps, and in this clip, her behavior is very reminiscent of Krissy’s, who I detested. OTOH, I like the idea of Sam and Dean sitting down to a dinner with friends, which we have only rarely seen before. Hopefully Claire will storm away from the table shortly after they sit down.
So … Alex is Robbie Berens character … and it has been shown that the writers have lots (and lots and lots) of leeway to play favorites with their own characters (until they die unexpectedly). 🙂 I was thinking previously that Alex would probably turn out to be the monster of the week (this clip apparently showing that role to be Claire’s notwithstanding) but hopefully RB is as protective of his characters as other writers are of theirs. As I said before I quite liked Alex in her episode – she had nuance , Also if they really want to do this Wayward Daughters thingy then I (personally) don’t think Claire is an interesting enough character to carry it on her own. I mean by rights it ought to be Kim Rhodes show but the fans that are claiming they want this show seem to want the teenagers running it so it looks like Claire and Alex would be the core characters.
It will (however) likely leave us, for the second time in 2 weeks, with Sam and Dean being rescued by rank amateurs, leading us all to wonder if they aren’t just, like, really bad at hunting and maybe they should quit and grow marrows and keep bees. Considering how many times they have died compared to everyone that they meet and the (often nonexistent) skill sets of the people who regularly rescue them….
*watches the trailer* oh god …
But Sam and Dean are cute, and Jody. Hey look, grown-ups!
Well to be fair Eileen IS a hunter, so it wasn’t a rank amateur who did the saving. Now Mildred (a complete amateur) did help, but Eileen got the kill and she seemed pretty tough; but I get your point. Yes, I will not be pleased if Claire becomes RT’s next ninja warrior, carrying around a sword as big as she is, and suddenly becoming the smartest person in the room and whom everyone adores. Sorry, but RT absolutely ruined Charlie many episodes before she was killed off. She pretty much had to go she’d become such a parody. I really hope Claire does not get the same treatment by RT that he gave to Charlie. I already don’t like her, but if she becomes a super teen ninja fighter and spends all of her time showing up those pesky adults who never listen, solves the crime, kills and monster and saves the day while sewing up her own wounds with dental floss, I will loose my lunch and then vow never to watch any spinoff that she is on. Oh, and there’ll be bitching…. much bitching, and maybe some kvetching too, right here on WFB.
Eileen’s fine, she can stay – and I am absolutely psyched that they have a character like her on the show. And that she and Jared were allowed ad-lib a friendship-related conversation at the end of the episode …But honestly if Dean and Sam can’t win a fight when there are 2 of them and they have all their senses how then is Eileen realistically still alive? Garth is a total clutz – why is he still alive? The first time Charlie was written as a normal amateur-hunter human being she died. Claire hasn’t got the survival instincts of a lemming if her decisions on who are friends, and who aren’t, are anything to go by. Same for Chrissy and her merry band. Yet Ellen, Jo, Bobby and Rufus and whatsername, and Tamara’s husband, and Martin, and all the men of letters … (and technically Sam and Dean) are all long dead – it makes no sense ….
However both Eileen and Ellen have fundamentally the same name as me so they are my show spirit-buddies.:D
eilf, like E I am not bothered by the fact that Eileen saved the boys. She apparently was trained to be a hunter from a young age. And at least she was portrayed as utilizing brains more than awesome fighting skills. It was pretty clever how she trapped Sam. However, when the likes of Charlie, Krissy and Claire have to save the boys’ bacon it is really annoying. They were all a bunch of neophyte hunters whose seemingly astounding (and completely unrealistic) skills made the brothers look inept. I hate that as much as when Bella kept making the brothers look like fools.
Word!
First “tru dat” and now “word.” Hmmm, what is going on with E I wonder? Has she started wearing droopy pants and wrap around shades as well?:o
I gots me some mad skills yo’
E, you’re killing me. It’s a side of you I haven’t seen yet. How many glasses of wine have you had?:)
Luv ya E!!:D
Doh, oh yeah Nancy Won wrote this episode not Robbie Berens.
samanddean10 – stop beating around the bush and tell us how you feel 🙂 I do wonder if they’re using this as a trial balloon (not a pilot) for a possible spin-off. If that’s the case, all the fans that don’t like Claire should watch so she goes off to spin-off land, though I would miss my favorite sheriff, Jody. By the title of the episode, I anticipate much teenage angsty angst this episode.
[quote]stop beating around the bush and tell us how you feel[/quote]
I had a bad day today, so I decided to take it out on a fictional character instead of my family.:) It was pretty darned cathartic! And if Claire does go off to spin-off land, I shall do a happy little jig and pray that there are no cross-over episodes!
Just watched the clip. It looks awful, just like I expected. Two teenage girls insulting each other, with Jodi playing referee. Nothing about this sounds even remotely interesting. Is Claire really hunting – I didn’t realize that it was so easy that anyone can do it.
I think there’s a book called “Hunting for Dummies.” :)That’s the only explanation for how so many characters on SPN are able to quickly learn the skills and lore that it took many years for Sam and Dean to learn, and they were learning from the best- John and Bobby.
I just hope Claire isn’t the one to kill the monster and save the boys. My gag reflex is going to be on high alert throughout this ep.
[quote] My gag reflex is going to be on high alert throughout this ep.
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Didi, make sure you don’t eat a big dinner!;)
This is what I’m thinking… Since I live in San Francisco, I’m going to follow the east coast commentary – the comments will help me determine my dinner and how much wine I should have before settling in for an exciting evening of Supernatural- Bad Girls Gone Worse
I tell you what Didi. I’m an east coaster so I will help you out here by setting up an ep ratings system. I will give it anywhere from 1 to 5 wine glasses, but unlike the star system for rating movies, the more wine glasses I give, the worse the ep. For example, if I give it a 1, that means have a glass of wine with the ep to complement a wonderful viewing experience. If I give it 3 glasses, that means have 3 LARGE glasses of wine before the ep to make an unpleasant experience somewhat tolerable. And if I give it the dreaded 5 glass rating, girl, you better start drinking at dinner time and watch the ep while in a drunken stupor. So check for my rating, which I will post shortly after the ep airs on the east coast. You’re welcome!:)
I like your rating system 🙂 go with it! ( if it leads to some puzzling comments about Dr pepper though stay out of the way of that convo – dangerous waters there :D)
Here is my guess for the episode – Claire thinks she is killing monsters.Apparently she kills a human by accident (or decides Alexis the monster) Dean becomes convinced for some reason that she is a monster, goes to kill her (see pictures for details) at the last minute someone ( not Sam, cause he’s been thrown through another wall) saves the day. Sam has learned an important lesson about something and tells Dean he is sorry…
Claire refers to Dean as ‘dad’ and Sam as ‘uncle’ during the episode leading to Alex pretending to barf and the barfing is the best part of the episode!
As always – happy to be wrong on this 🙂
Uncle Moose.
One of the quirks of my ratings system is that if this occurs:
[quote]Sam has learned an important lesson about something and tells Dean he is sorry…[/quote]
the ep automatically gets 5 glasses no matter how good the rest of it is. Sorry, dems da rules and there’s nothing I can do about it!:)
Also, Dr. Pepper?????
Wait, Sam has to learn an important lesson about something in order to be sorry?
I have a feeling I’m likely to pass out before the show ever airs on the west coast.
No Sam learning stuff is the cuter part of an episode – apologizing to Dean is the given requirement of episodes. They ran out of REASONS (for Sam) a while since so now we’re recycling ( or simply inventing) stuff. It is important to be green you know. Helps save the world.
Yeah, ok I’m done letting off steam. 🙂 I hope the episode is good. I hope claiure turns out to be a half decent character. Robbie Berens is one of the writers more likely to give us a good episode. I am off to buy some wine :p
OK I was sort of right on two of my predictions. But they were the better ones. Or at least better stuff happened than would be expected. Jody rocked that episode as MVP guest star 😀 If they do get their spin-off I hope she will be included.
Awesome!!! I have to work tonight anyway, so will miss the episode. If I come here later tonight to see just one wine glass I’ll eat….. something… chocolate…. yes, fitting punishment for all my negativity. I’ll each large quantities of chocolate while I retract every word. :p;)
I’ve been feeling really negative today too, so can I be punished with chocolate? 😉
This is perfect. Sounds like a win-win for me. Heading over to Beverages R Us to stock up now.
OK Didi, I can’t give you the full review, but in a nutshell I’d say while it didn’t make me want to gouge out my eyes and ears, and there were a few cute scenes, overall it was a snooze. Clair was annoying and the plot seemed very tired and rote. Even Jody was kind of blah here. So I’d give it 3.5 glasses of wine. Enjoy!:D
I’m loving this drinking game. Cheers!
Hmmmm 3.5 huh? Not a ringing endorsement, but not all we feared it would be? Well then maybe a little bit of conciliatory chocolate is in order. I have no idea if and when I’ll actually see this episode. Sound like I can probably managed to keep up with the season without doing so.
yes there was not even an iota of forward motion on the myth arc. It was as self-contained an ep as you could have
Claire is her usual charming self again I see. Why is Jody tolerant of that kind of behavior and tone? I feel that it undermines her character to allow that brat to be so bratty to everyone around her. My mother would never have tolerated a tone like the one Claire is using. Didi, That is EXACTLY what I am fearing will happen. Jody will give 1000 logical reasons as to why Claire is wrong (she’s acting out, she’s missing school, she’s mean to Alex blah, blah blah, poor Claire) and then after snarking and stomping off in a huff, Claire will show all those dumb adults how to hunt. The gorge rises at the thought.
I couldn’t agree more. Breaking news: someone gives Claire the codex and Charlie’s code breaking and before you know it Claire has read the Book of the Damned cover to cover and saves the planet! And we all sing For She’s a Jolly Good Fella.
Over the past few seasons, given how quickly new characters develop hunting skills and become expert hunters, you can only come to one conclusion. John and Bobby were crappy hunters and did a bad job of training Sam and Dean ;);););)
That or else Dean and Sam are just really really slow learners! 😉
I don’t know what to say everybodys said it. I will watch it for Sam & Dean but if they are shown to be incompetant I’ll be queit shiity. I’m queit likeing Alex here You would think if anybody was going to be a horrid teenager it would be Alex she appears to be more balanced than Claire. Honestly I would like to stab Claire – I really don’t like teenagers portrayed with so much angst and attiyude. Disappointing because they could really do something Great with these 3 characters. If the boys are shown to be great / experience hunters and more big brothers to Alex and Claire I would except that
The relationship they have with Jody better not turn silly in this episode. I like the Boys & Jody make a good team like with Bobby, but throw Claire in Blahhhhhh I will give Alex a go
PS Sam and Dean are so cute especially Dean FOOD I’m hungry so sweet (2 Chickens) LOL
I’m in agreement with the Claire thing. Can’t stand her bratty attitude. There is absolutely no reason for her to so nasty to everyone. It’s not as if her life has sucked any more than other hunters’ lives. I will watch in hopes that they do get a spin-off and we can be done with Claire on SPN.
PS I’ll have something with me in case the gag reflex turns into something more.
My main problem now with Jody…. and don’t get me wrong, I love her character and always have, is that she is now independent of Sam and Dean and their world. We used to get episodes of Jody being drawn into S&D’s world and having her attention revolving around them. This was the only time that we got to see any kind of meaningful connection between Sam and Jody. Now she’s got her own life, her own kids, her own problems outside of S&D and even outside of hunting except for those rarefied times that the monsters practically fall at her feet. Now instead of S&D calling her, she calls them and the episodes tend to revolve around her world, her problems. No offense to Jody, but it doesn’t work as well that way. The reason that Bobby, Ellen, Rufus and even Garth for the most part worked is that their lives and their issues never took center stage away from the boys; they supported what was going on with Sam and Dean. Charlie, Claire and now possibly Jody are becoming a distraction, forcing us off into a separate world from the show, delaying plot development there, and I don’t tune in every week to watch what OTHER people are doing, I’ve come to watch Sam and Dean.
Not Sam, Jared. So weird to see someone that way … ah, acting: [img]https://40.media.tumblr.com/48010ce71b99d218bb51df9c087cc6b7/tumblr_o2060cgPEx1rtyf8xo1_540.jpg[/img]
It’s nice to know that the actress herself can smile such a lovely smile. Did we get to see anything like that from Claire?
Spoilers!
What’s funny is that usually you can tell right away if it’s a Sam smile or a Jared smile. This is so clearly Jared’s big sweet grin.
Jared is so hot! Love that dimpled smile. I’m a few glasses of wine in at this point. I blame Samandean 🙂
[quote]Jared is so hot! Love that dimpled smile[/quote]
Agree!
[quote] I blame Samandean[/quote]
Hey don’t blame me, I didn’t invent the wine ratings system! Oh yeah, I guess I did.:p