CW Trailer for Supernatural 10.23 Extended Preview Added
Here is the promo for the final episode this season.
The original preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2LRtVFt_u8&feature=youtu.be
And the Extended Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01EFOIbiBrA
Death returns and maybe can cure Dean, but what is his condition? Sam is still determined to save Dean. Can he find a better way than whatever Death is offering? Why is Dean holding Death’s scythe?
Additional information from extended preview
Dean is on a complete rampage. Cas is desperate enough to ask Crowley for help. Death has a significant, non-negotiable condition to help Dean. What do you think? Even though Crowley “gave at the office” will Cas get him to help? How significant is Death’s condition? How many people will Dean kill? What consequences will be worse than Dean being an unstoppable killing machine?
Let us know in the comments.
Death wants Dean to reap someone? It seems fitting since he once made Dean wear his ring.
I think it would be time for another lesson to remind Dean that killing is not as easy as Dean has led himself to think. But there’s no time for that in the finale. Unless Death thinks that Dean has to see it to the end i.e. kill Sam.
Whose grace is used for a spell? I don’t think that Castiel could spare some so it would be interesting if they had to extract the rest of the grace Gadreel had left in Sam (assuming that Castiel didn’t tell Sam the truth in 9.11 [i] First Born[/i]). But maybe they’ll just go the easy way by having Crowley be able to produce them an angel’s grace in a bottle.
Metatrons? So what would Death want? What would be of interest to him concerning a ‘galaxy just out of its diapers’???? Theres a lot of speculation that Death wants Dean to take over for him. Why? To go eat crappy food and drink booze out of a coconut? Im hoping that there is more than this! Jensen said vessel, does Death use Deans vessel? I mean, look at him! Who wouldnt want to!?! Especially if you are gonna go someplace where they drink booze out of coconuts!!! Who would Death want reaped? Sam, for standing him up last year? I mean how ruuuddde! Death comes all that way to personally reap you and you stand him up! ‘Eh, yeah. Sorry I changed my mind. Going with Dean… See ya!!!’ Didnt Jensen say that Dean would be cured? saved? just not in the way we think it will happen? One thing is for sure, I have no bloody idea whatsoever how this will end! All I know is Jared cried when he read it and Jensen thought it one of the best scripts (I believe thats what he said) he had ever read and was going to email Carver to tell him so. So… I have faith in J&J. Carver can write a rocking script when he wants to. I doubt Jensen would willingly go on the record if it wasnt very good! Im not ready to hear Carry On yet!!! ;(
[quote] Theres a lot of speculation that Death wants Dean to take over for him. [/quote]I hope these speculations turn out to be true.
the whole thing doesn’t make sense in a logic way because moc dean doesn’t want to be cured. …..even if dean, who might have regained enough strength to summon death to get rid of the moc because he had come too close to fulfilling the prophesy, even if he does agree to death’s terms which most likely would involve killing which of course the mark cannot resist….who’s to say that once dean is done killing the moc won’t take over and death will even be able to keep his word. moc dean will have death’s scythe, can off him and dean is left a knight of hell…the coming of cain….and with death’s scythe to boot…
how is that any better than sam getting help from a spell book?:o
[quote] Metatrons? [/quote]
Good call! I wonder if Castiel’s tattered wings are due to some of his grace having been used up when Metatron performed a spell that cast all of the angels out of Heaven.
If the upcoming finale is supposed to be more painful than [i] Swan Song [/i] then I think there would have to be a feeling that the brothers will be separated forever.
Or maybe it’s more painful because Sam and Dean will fight but Dean is not fully possessed like Sam was in [i] Swan Song[/i]?
Or Lucifer’s grace. PLOT TWIST! 😀
The prophesy must be fulfilled.
IF not now, when..
Looks like Death wants Dean to reap him? According to Crowley Death could be killed by his own scythe. So Death wants Dean to become Death? Is that the fan favorite that dies? I hope not. That would anti climatic.
Maybe Deaths condition is Dean reaps Sam. Dean agrees but kills Death instead and then accidently kills Sam? I dunno. I got nothing.
That beatdown on Cas? So brutal… 🙁
In case you didnt notice guys… DemonDean red shirt alert for the finale!!!! As if it wasnt going to be bad enough already…
Red means what…
Deanmon / he will kill / Knight of Hell or all 3
Well let’s see. Dean suddenly wants to be cured (again) or not (again). I don’t know about all this speculation, but I’m so over this storyline. Or should I say lack of storyline. Sam is sitting in a chair, researching (again) I assume and repeating his lines from the last 22 episodes (again). I’m just…….:(
you’re not alone; unless something changes, I consider next week to be the series finale for me. :(:(:(
I am right there w/you two. I haven’t even watched yesterday’s episode yet, and unless the finale blows me away, I likely won’t be returning next year.
Count me in too. I don’t like the show I am watching much and the longer it goes one the more I wonder WHY I am watching. Nostalgia I guess? I managed to catch about 20 minutes of last nights episode… meh.. it was OK and pretty much what I expected: a stone faced, ratchet voiced, monosyllabic Dean on a killing spree, once again only killing those people who deserved it. I know that “sympathetic” baby Styne was somehow supposed to show us how far off the rails Dean has gone, but the kid was still a Styne so easy peasy for everyone to hand wave after the fact. It’s ironic. It seems like I’ve been waiting for Dean to show some kind of proof that he’s actually being affected by the Mark for ages, and now that he is (at least it seems more clear to me now, although it’s still not completely clear) … I am not enjoying it. At least demon Dean was fun, liked to sing karaoke, drink, and got little somethin’ somethin’ on the side with a hot waitress. This Dean is stone faced and as grating and caustic as acid and nearly impossible to watch. I had to turn the sound down because his voice was difficult for me to listen to. I find it incredibly off putting and I couldn’t enjoy any of the Dean rampage scenes, not even when he killed all of those smug Stynes like Papa Styne and Eldon. TPTB have fallen into a very basic writing trap; a character who shows no emotion and can’t be killed is not dramatic or fun. They can continue to put Dean into these situations where he has to fight and he’ll continue to win because of the mark. Boring. I did like the scene with Crowley and Sam… they work really well together. It was awesome to see the old Crowley back and it’s about time too. The rest… ho-hum and meh.
If death is giving Dean a seath who could he kill with it ? Crowely I rekon his a gonna / both Sam & Dean blame him for everything that has gone wrong since Dean got the MOC
And in the Episode Prisonner – Crowely said he was trying to be good by handling hell differently, I still can’t understand why all powerful Death couldn’t do it himself. So confused
Death cant do What himself…..
Get rid of any threat / who would be a threat to Death
Whose a threat to Death? My guess is Sam with what he learns from the book to help cure Dean. Death wants Dean to reap Sam as part of the deal to cure Dean.
Although that doesnt fit with Sam doing the crying. Sam would only cry if Dean dies. So it seems like Dean is trading in one all powerful exsistance for another. I guess that meana Sam has no storyline again next season as Dean will be off reaping and could handle all the threats alone so Sam wouldnt need to be a hunter. Maybe Sam’s new path that starts out as trying to help his brother is realising that he wants to be a librarian?
If Jensen likes the script it probably means its Dean heavy and he gets another huge arc for Dean. Jared crying a lot probably means a similar sort of role as the season 9 finale, not much involvement but gets to cry over Dean dying.
Won’t that be fun I know next week has me on the edge of seat counting down the hours . I know the ending I would like to see for Sam but that is not going to happen but we will have even more miserable Winchester,s leading into more miserable Winchester,s next season. Where Dean can blame Sam again for whatever disaster happens next week or for taking his last Rolo which ever comes first..
Dean hated taking a life when he was Death for one day but if he is a natural born killer now… I do think that Death knows that Dean is better than that. But could Death think that Dean could use the mark of Cain neutrally i.e. kill like reapers do?
that Dean is long, long gone, with or without the MoC.
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Conversations about a #Supernatural spin-off are ongoing, Pedowitz says. “I would love to see a spin-off” #TheCW #Upfronts2015 [/quote]
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[quote] THE CW’s 2015-2016 PRIMETIME SCHEDULE
WEDNESDAY
8:00-9:00 PM ARROW
9:00-10:00 PM SUPERNATURAL [/quote]
[quote] 9:00-10:00 P.M. “SUPERNATURAL”
The thrilling and terrifying journey of the Winchester brothers continues as SUPERNATURAL enters its eleventh season. Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) have spent their lives on the road, battling every kind of supernatural threat. Over the years, after countless bloody adventures, they have faced everything from the yellow-eyed demon that killed their mother to vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, angels and fallen gods. With the help of allies — both human and supernatural — they’ve discovered that every victory comes with a price. In the show’s tenth season, the Winchester brothers faced their most personal threat yet. The all-powerful Mark of Cain threatened to consume Dean, turning him into one of the monsters he has spent his life hunting. Meanwhile, a formidable witch, Rowena (Ruth Connell), rose to power to claim her position at the right hand of the King of Hell, Crowley (Mark Sheppard). Once Rowena revealed herself to be Crowley’s mother, the King was forced to choose between his family and the Winchesters. All while Sam, with the help of Castiel (Misha Collins), Crowley, and some unlikely allies, wages a desperate battle to save Dean from the Mark of Cain. Will Sam be able to find a cure for the Mark in time? Will it be enough to save his brother? And a more frightening prospect – does Dean want to be saved? SUPERNATURAL is produced by Wonderland Sound and Vision in association with Warner Bros. Television, with executive producers Jeremy Carver (“Being Human”), Robert Singer (“Midnight Caller”) and Phil Sgriccia. Eric Kripke created the series and serves as executive consultant, along with McG. [/quote]
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SanSummer1 THANK YOU SO MUCH MY DEAR.:)
the CW would be last to do their upfronts.
I notice in the description for season 11 of Supernatural that they are STILL talking about the MoC, Dean being saved and Sam looking for a cure. So basically a retread of a retread of seasons that never worked to begin with. Great. I also notice that they talk about Rowena in the past tense while discussing Dean, Sam, Cas and Crowley in the present tense. So, I guess we know who dies in the finale.
[quote] Speaking of Supernatural, Pedowitz insisted that “we have no intent of (upcoming Season 11) being a last season” for the venerable show. “I’m a big believer and a big fan of the show, and as long the ratings hold and as long as the boys (stars Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles) want to do it, we’ll do it.” The duo’s contracts are up at the end of next season. [/quote]
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I had a feeling that they would continue till season 12 because it’s a nice number and they would beat [i] Smallville’s [/i] record. But I guess season 13 would be appropriate too for a show about the supernatural.
Well season 11 beat out SMALLVILLE, but the gossip is, the Js want time to be with the kids and 11 was the last. I wish people would stick to the damn facts and NOT rumor.
Can’t see Dean taking over for Death; they’ve been there, done that already in Season 6. I always enjoy Death (what a strange thing to say 🙂 ) but hope they don’t go the easy out/quick fix for Dean; it sucked when they did it with Sam in The Born Again Identity, and would suck if they did it here. As far as Dean killing Death, sounds kind of strange but sure, Carver’s running the show so why not. I was thinking that the more likely scenario would be that Sam and Dean have been disruptive to the natural order on a global scale; perhaps the price Dean has to pay will have something to do with that, either having to reap Sam, or Death changes things and makes it so Sam and Dean are no longer brothers and can therefore no longer disrupt the natural order.
As far as people speculating about a fight between the brothers, clearly this can’t be a physical altercation; if Dean took out Castiel so easily, Sam would pose absolutely no threat to him. They could reverse Sam/Lucifer beating the snot out of Dean in Swan Song, but Carver already did this in S8 with Castiel and Dean so I can’t see them resorting to that. Then again, it would be contrived and predictable so that’s probably what Carver will do.
PERCY, thanks for getting us the longer clip so soon.
Why on earth would Death need Crowley dead…..
He does not mess up the natural order of things.
I absolutely HATE the thought that Dean cures himself by summoning Death. It’s almost like the writers sat around and wondered how they could make Sam even more superfluous to the plot. If his only role in the finale is to sob giant man tears over what happens to poor Dean, I will throw something at my TV. That was last year’s finale, and look how that turned out. I simply cannot take the prospect of another year like this year in which Sam gets a fungible set of lines about how worried/sad he is about Dean, while ineffectually trying to help him. And it means that TPTB had Sam dabble in witchcraft and try to use the Book SOLELY so Charlie could get killed and Sam could bear the blame and earn Dean’s hatred. I kind of like the idea that Death decrees that the boys can’t be brothers anymore, and wipes Sam’s memory, but that wouldn’t explain Sam’s tears. Maybe Dean agrees to have his memory wiped, and that’s why Sam cries. I don’t know what will happen, but it is clear that Sam doesn’t save Dean, which sucks big time. Why TPTB are determined that Sam NEVER get a win (since Swan Song) is unfathomable to me.
I hate it too, so I’m going to hold on to the hope that Sam does save Dean. I’m fully aware that for the last three seasons the entire premise is that Sam can do nothing right so my hope is small.
My hope is just barely visible with the Hubble telescope.
I guess you could technically call Swan Song a win, but what a horrible way to win. I’m trying to gear up for disappointment so I might be pleasantly surprised, but I’m doubtful. Just the fact that Sam is sitting in a chair, staring at a computer and telling Cas that they have to “cure the Mark” for the hundred and twentieth time is making my teeth hurt. This interminable need to create drama between the brothers with no growth in maturity or change in behavior is getting completely ridiculous. I don’t want Sam to die by Dean’s hand or become someone else, but if it gets us past this treadmill we’re on, then I’m in. Separate them for half a year or whatever but get them out of this rut.
:):):):):)
[quote]Separate them for half a year or whatever but get them out of this rut.[/quote]
I agree Sylvia, which is really sad because up until the last two years my happy place had been watching Sam and Dean be BROTHERS together- sparring, disagreeing, feisty, laughing, supportive brothers. But now I’m unhappy most of the time when they’re together because I hate the dynamic between them. Often they seem more like acquaintances (especially on Dean’s side) than brothers with this unshakeable bond. and Sam is so damn deferential to Dean. There are just a couple of episodes these past two seasons where they seemed like the brothers of old. So I’m all for a separation, even if it’s a long one, if the end result is getting back the Sam and Dean of the first 7 seasons. Sometimes I worry that this is now the new normal, and that the Js don’t even remember how to play the old Sam and Dean anymore.
Yes please. As far from each other as possible. With amnesia.
Hurts, doesn’t it?
Very much so.:(:(
Agreed. At this point, I’m perfectly fine w/Sam dying by Dean’s hand. That’s something Carver has been itching to do so do it already.
Me too.
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*Note to self: it is not necessary to share ALL your opinions.*
I love this and it is so freaking true, ha.
Lordy girl! I am really sorry! Your post wasn’t there when I deleted most of mine. I thought better of it. I meant what I said (though it was supposed to be funny) and I am glad you were entertained :). but it will cause way too much trouble if I leave it there.
My apologies for leaving you hanging!
ETA: *giggle* unless you are agreeing with the sentiments of the changed post in which case that is fine too 😀
eilf, I’m glad I got to read it before you deleted it. I found it quite hilarious, and I was trying to think of other, equally funny options but coming up with zip.
I posted it and then I walked home going ‘that there was a really bad decision that post was’. That was the time gap between posting and deleting. :p
I was a titch nervous about option C provoking a furor, but I found it very amusing.
No worries. I don’t think it was Going to start anything but I did find it funny. The truth hurts;).
Well shoot. I would have loved to have read this…. ‘controversial’ or no. I love a good controversial, strongly worded, opinionated rant. It WAS a rant, no?
Technically Swan Song is a win for Sam, but the show is steadily erasing all memory of Sam’s role. Since Carver took over Dean has been credited with Saving the world several times and now Cas supposedly did it, while we are only reminded that Sam let Lucifer OUT, not that he put him back. So even that one win is on shaky ground considering the revisionist history job Carver is doing on Kripke’s portion of the show.
One of the things I resent the most is the continual rewriting of the Apocalypse by Carver et al. Sam’s part in starting the Apocalypse is reiterated. Sam’s part in stopping it is ignored.
Dude, Sam is the show’s punching bag. He is always getting a crap story w/this regime, IMO.
[quote]If his only role in the finale is to sob giant man tears over what happens to poor Dean, I will throw something at my TV.[/quote] I sold my tv and stopped paying for cable. And I am not going to watch the finale live (possibly not at all, depends) …. so I guess my laptop is pretty safe …. Which is to say i think it would be at a fair amount of risk next Wednesday evening otherwise.
I’m out of town next week so I may not get to see this until I get back on Saturday although I’ll try to catch it on Hulu before then. I’ll be interested to see how people react. I’m not feeling confident about how this will play out.
I myself have a rehearsal for a concert I’ll be doing. I’ll come here Thursday morning to look over the comments before I decide if I am watching or not.
I can no longer even figure out what the worst case scenario would be; Sam kills Dean and earns the hatred of many fans? Cas, Crowley and Rowena save Dean while an incapacitated Sam sobs in relief? Dean saves himself by making a deal with Death and Sam accidentally reverses it due to a BOTD boomerang curse? Sam watches passively while everyone else gets to do and say cool stuff? Sam is killed by Dean as part of the deal with Death and everyone consoles Dean because, dammit, he had no choice? The only palatable scenarios for me are that Sam saves Dean, and suffers terrible consequences himself (unlikely if Sam is the one crying), or Sam finally unloads on Dean, and then Dean kills him, putting Sam (and me) out of our misery (also unlikely if Sam is the one crying).
Sam creates a spell that kills Cas. Then Dean saves himself thus negating Sam using the Book of the Damned and putting Charlie’s Death square on his shoulders.
Take it one step further- Sam’s spell kills Cas AND destroys Baby. Thus you would have the trifecta of Sam having killed/destroyed everyone/everything Dean loves. Fade to black….
Sounds about right. Latest speculation is that Dean will be taking over for Death, thus negating pretty much all of the plot threads that have dealt with trying to save him this whole season. Sam will end up looking like a completely moron for ever going near TBofD’d, Charlie’s death will be rendered utterly superfluous, the Stynes were introduced only to give Dean someone to kill and at the end Dean comes off smelling like a rose. When is a plot twist NOT a plot twist, when it’s bad writing.
Here’s a plot twist. Dean apologizes for being a major d-bag for like…..three years now and then actually realizes and acknowledges out loud to Sam that going to apocalyptic lengths to save your brother from his reward in heaven is not only selfish but stupid. I think it’s going to happen……..;)
AHhahhahahahahahahahahhahaha! Somehow I think not. :p
[quote]Latest speculation is that Dean will be taking over for Death,[/quote]But doesn’t this make it a very high probable thing that Sam is god.I had thought about this long back ( and had mentioned in this site) and That Sam and Dean might be the new God and Death.
Now THAT would be an interesting way to end the show. Kind of appropriate, too, because I can’t see them sitting around in heaven twiddling their thumbs.
Sam was Luci’s vessel
Dean was Michael’s so a
complete reversal is what you
two are saying…..j/w
UH…. if this becomes a show about God and Death next year then I am done. Yuck.
No I don’t see it ever happening, but I also can’t imagine the show ending with the brothers in heaven.
They have GOT TO end up in HEAVEN.
If Jensen only sees ”guns blazing” as the ending
then for chucks sake, where else should they
end up….
No E, whenever the show decides to end, that is.Till then even I do not want them to be God and Death.
I think death will want sam reaped by dean and the use of the scythe and not the ring may make the death irreversible? I think dean will lure sam to death and death will want dean to do it…i think sam will sacrifice himself to dean…he will gladly trade his life for deans soul…then i think we get a swan song moment with dean flashing through a lifetime with sam and he wont be able to do it…i think the mutual sacrifice will break the curse..doing the opposite of what caused it in first place…i still think the o shit moment comes from someone else…maybe death for getting screwed again…or maybe cas,crowley rowena….
It’s an interesting theory, but why would Death want Sam dead?
Sam and Dean have been messing with the natural order for 10 years, both having died numerous times, only to be brought back. Remember the old saying, there’s no cheating death? Sam and Dean have been doing it for awhile now so Death wants to restore the natural order.
I was speculating about this on the discussion page yesterday;
I think that Death will agree to remove the mark from Dean if Dean will agree to reap Sam. Because Death is fed up with Dean interfering with the natural order to save Sam. After all in general it is Dean’s big ‘gotta save Sam’ maneuvers that cause the most damage and ripples in the SPN universe.
The logic must be that the only way to ensure Dean will not try to undo it is if Dean is the one to make the final decision TO do it. The delight on Dean’s face as he agrees in the preview is just like it was when he was taunting Sam back when he was a demon.
After all Death looked somewhat annoyed when Dean talked Sam into the start of this specific mess back at the start of season 9.
That would make the big relief moment the point at which he doesn’t kill Sam. Maybe a reconcilliation? (I am not at all in the frame of mind where Dean gets instant reconcilliation or anything else after the misery that has been this season, but I get that the writers are somehow managing to write a different show to the one I am watching).
And the ‘oh no’ moment either Crowley interfering and killing someone, or Death taking someone (probably Sam) to punish Dean for not making good on the deal. (He then removes the mark ANYWAY because Dean is too much of a liability to be let continue on with that sort of power)
It doesn’t look like Sam is even going to be a major player in the finale (gosh), never mind doing the saving so this is the alternative I see.
yes, I think that’s the reason behind using the scythe, so it can’t be reversed. To make matters worse, I think Rowena will double cross everyone and either Castiel or Crowley will end up dead as the result of whatever spell she casts. So, if Sam does survive and Castiel dies, that will be on him as well.
The only season ending interviews so far have been with JA and MC; that tells you all you need to know about Sam’s role in the last episode.
As far as I am concerned every single decision this showrunner has made has been destructive to the core premise of the show and nothing they could do in this finale could fix that. You can’t fix that much damage with one episode. If they worked at it all next season they could not fix it. Which they won’t even try to do, if the past 3 seasons progression is anything to go by. Sam dying is basically the only thing that could even begin to fix it. Sam not being in the finale would not even come close to being the worst damage the writers have done to the character this season.
Yeah, I’m pissed.
But couldn’t Death just reap Sam himself and make it permanent? After all, at this point in time Dean is in no mood to try to bring Sam back anyway. By agreeing to any deal that requires Sam’s death, Dean is making it clear that he could not care less, and will not be trying to cheat death this time. Actually it just occurred to me that Death knows that since the MOC was born out of fratricide, only fratricide can remove it and that is why Dean is required to kill Sam.
Dean is the one who has always had no problem doing whatever it takes in order to have Sam not be dead and if that results in the world getting broken (see the Apocalypse and the giving up on the tablets at the last possible moment for details) then that is just too bad. It always leads to more problems. (Sam’s major transgression was NOT in a bid to revive Dean, that happened after Dean returned – none of those plans have ever worked out for Sam). That is why Sam is now doing what he sees is the only thing possible to do – whatever it takes.
They have said that Sam isn’t going to stop in his effort to cure Dean and maybe the book IS too much. Maybe Death knows that. Though why the book should be more powerful than the three tablets or the MOC I don’t know. So if Dean kills Sam then Sam can’t use the book and Dean will have actually followed through on the decision he has made several times before – to kill Sam when Dean decides it is expedient – as Cain did with Abel – and while Dean isn’t interfering Death can make good on his deal with Sam to allow him to die and be safe from hurting (as he sees it) anyone else.
This is one possible scenario that could be what they are going to use Death for. Probably isn’t though.
We don’t actually know that fratricide can remove the mark – maybe fratricide would result in Lucifer escaping from the pit and possessing Sam again. I would like to see a few people get smited. Smited good and hard. How about if the killing of the brother resulted in the bringing back to life of the original murdered brother, and him then telling what REALLY went down?
Maybe Death is like this is too much, now both of the Winchesters would let the world burn for each other. Sam thinks that he has act like Dean to be good enough of a brother for Dean because of the way Dean reacted to Sam supposedly not being as willing to save his brother as Dean is to save Sam (season eight and nine). I think that Dean will have to convince Sam that despite the way he has treated Sam in the past, he does not think that Sam owes it to him to go to the extremes to save him. He already knows that Sam loves him and would do anything for him.
Or Hell, if Death is that annoyed, take them both out. I guess if he did tho hed be mucking up his own rules about the natural order… nope, hes stuck with them! 😉
Metatron said something about ‘the river ends by its source. So Lucifer is the source of the mark. And Death can go in and out of the cage. What if Death will release Lucifer so Dean can kill him with the first blade and kill also the MoC. So Death will get rid of Lucifer that he had beef with and Dean gets rid of the Mark at the same time. And Sam tries to talk Dean out of that plan but Dean doesnt listen. And so Sam cries about how lost his Brother may seem. But Lucifer can escape and thats the comment from Jensen ‘I dont know how the writers will be able to get out of it’.
Sam was dead in s2 and dean brought him back…messing with natural order.sams the one that got away…so maybe death wants a winning track record….
Maybe it’ll be like return of the jedi…death is emperor palpatine goading vader to kill luke..dean being vader..sam being luke…then after lukes plea…please father…vader throws emporer over ledge…maybe its a case of sam’s tearfilled puppy dog eyes..and please dean..that dean gains control of moc..then turns and uses the scythe on death instead….which in turn causes some kind of biblical consequence…that they have to deal with next season…
Or maybe sam pulls some kind of hail mary pass at last minute..there were pics of him on twitter with that tattoo:p
Pics of whom on twitter with the MoC, Jared……
the tattoo was a Texas thing (star?) and a black map of Texas … I don’t really think they are going to be able to work them into the story 😉
Well it looks like Cas is with Rowena and Crowley, so I’m wondering if Sam and Dean manage to make the save but Cas and the others don’t know it and cast whatever spell and end up ruining things anyway.
That is a good guess. Seems plausable.
But Death could have stopped Dean and Gadreel from taking Sam back if that was the case? The order was already messed with by that stage. I agree with the rest of your premise that it has to do with the damage they have done to the natural order though!
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It seems to me that there has to be a Cain and Abel type of confrontation for there to be a real payoff for the viewers. So the “Brother’s Keeper” and “Brother’s Reaper” from the mid-season promo would have to seem to be coming true i.e. Sam trying to defend his life against Dean. Although I don’t think that being called your brother’s keeper is a good thing…
Dean becoming a reaper could be very sad if it meant that Sam and Dean could never be together for the rest of the eternity. But if Dean is supposed to reap Sam… On the other hand, Dean might want to become a reaper because then he would have the power to decide when Sam will be reaped (because maybe others are after Sam and want to kill him because of a dangerous spell he is about to perform or something like that.) Sam would never have to die if Dean was Sam’s personal reaper.
But then Dean would probably have to be as powerful as Death had been. Hey, even if Dean became the new Death, he could always relinquish the responsibility to Cas when it would become too overwhelming for Dean. But that doesn’t work either because Cas is an angel with human tendencies, not suitable for becoming the new Death. Tessa could have been a good one but she got killed off. And I want Death to be Death, the actor is great.
Sam could agree to Dean reaping him if he thinks that that’s the only resolution. Hence, Sam crying because they are brothers but now it has come to Dean having to kill Sam but Sam would die for Dean even by Dean’s hands.
There is a new promotional one sheet: Link ([url]”http://images.spoilertv.com/misc/CW/CW%202015-16%20Promotional%20One%20Sheets/spn.jpg.php”[/url])
It’s a red and black picture of Crowley, Sam, Dean, and Cass so it seems that all four of them will be returning for season 11. But one of them might still die in the finale, which is why Jensen said he has no idea how the writers are going to dig themselves out of that one.
Had a look at that Red & Black sht – in S9 poster Dean stands to the front looking menacing / Sam off to the side looking determined / with Cas further back This makes sense because it was
Demon Dean Seaeson.
In the red poster for S11. Sam stands strong and devilish looking in front / Dean directly behind/ with Cas and Crowley right behind on either side. ?????????
I like the use of red color, it reminds me of blood, which is very foreboding. I also wonder if there is any significance to Sam being at the forefront. Does he do something in the finale that has significant repercussions to season 11?
It makes me sad that [i] The Vampire Diaries [/i] has the kind of promotional one sheet that [i] Supernatural [/i] should have had as it features just the two Salvatore brothers.
Link ([url]”http://images.spoilertv.com/misc/CW/CW%202015-16%20Promotional%20One%20Sheets/tvd.jpg.php”[/url])
[quote] I also wonder if there is any significance to Sam being at the forefront. Does he do something in the finale that has significant repercussions to season 11?
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SanSummer and Jen, I was wondering/hoping the same thing. It seemed very odd to me that Sam was in the forefront given how his role has been so diminished this last year. But then I thought, maybe it’s simply that the person who designs the poster just happens to be a Sam/Jared fan.
Mercy! Hot boys be hot!!!!!
so i just wanted to let you know that i’ve figured it out…i’ve solved the riddle of the season finale….are you ready for sheer prime time delight fan fiction….
this is my theory, that ties in with what jensen said about being saved in an unexpected way……here we go
death will cure dean for a price. death wants dean to reap sam. why? because once upon a time death collected sam and all was well with the universe until dean brought sam back. not that anything was really right with sam gone..so sam is basically the one that got away….millenia of reaping souls and death’s track record is marred because of these two denim clad nightmares…oh how i love these kind of nightmares …anyhoo, moc dean agrees to the terms and lures sam into a trap where death awaits…sam, who is all to willing to sacrifice himself for his brother’s soul, falls to his knees (as we see in the photo) and offers himself to dean….but before he goes he does give dean his goodbye speech which of course will reduce us all to tears…he tells dean all he ever wanted to do was make him proud. he’s sorry he’s disappointed him. telling him all he wanted to do was save him the way dean has always save him…and then sam reaches into his pocket, and puts something into dean’s hand…the samulet, the real one that sam has always had but never felt worthy to give to his brother…til now….and as you may recall that amulet was real special…it even glowed in the presence of God…but why else was it so special?….when dean takes it in his hand, the amulet starts to glow and the room brightens up and the mark disappears from dean’s arm…an act of sacrifice and love along with a very special object, maybe as special as that impala….that would be our relief moment….and the oh shit moment would come because of cas/crowley and rowena….in which there’s a double cross or a mistake and cas ends up turning evil due to the spell and is the next coming of lucifer….and the big bad for next season….
how does that grab ya:D
I LIKEY!!! One can hope it goes this way……..:p
Hello sugarhi– LOVE IT LOVE IT Can you now make it happen please. A spell might work or maybe a sacrifice – I’m willing to die for my boys – Hugs, Tears and Kisses Jen
Oh Sugarhi, I LOVE it!! I was thinking yesterday that the Crying!Sam scene might be when he offers to sacrifice himself for Dean. A couple of times this season Sam has talked about being okay with dying, we know how desperate he is to save Dean and this week he talked about owing Dean everything so I think he would be more than willing to sacrifice himself to save his brother. But the amulet didn’t enter my head. That would be awesome. I did see this tweet from Asylum 14 posted on one site – “JIM JUST BASICALLY SAID WE’LL KNOW WHO GOD IS SOON OH MY GOD” #Asylum14. I don’t know how accurate this info is though as I’ve not seen anything else about it mentioned elsewhere.
I also think the ‘Oh shit’ moment might be connected to Lucifer somehow. Though didn’t Misha say that somebody dies in this ‘Oh shit’ moment?
Really? Cause if Jim M. said this I wish he would just shut the Hell up. Thanks Jim for a major future? spoiler. Jerk.
AlyCat you tickle me. I hold my tongue so much and you FLY FREE. :):):):)
😉 Im notorious that way… heh. Seriously though – God? Really? If they thought Lucifer and the Apocalypse were hard to top… where the Hell would Show go after that?!?
I think that Dean would have had an immediate look of denial on his face if Death had revealed that his condition for removing the mark is that Dean kills Sam.
Dean seemed pretty eager for Sam to be dead in this last episode so maybe he wouldn’t go into denial mode, maybe he would be all for it.
I dont think dean is going to be death..that seem quite silly considering the whole point of getting rid of the moc is to stop killing…hes going to get rid of the mark do he can kill people anyway…highly doubtful:D
I don’t know, all these specs are so depressing and I hope you’re wrong. Gosh I miss the brothers being brothers, seems so long.
My problems with having Death demand Dean kill someone or something is that the only purpose would be that he can’t do it himself. Maybe the MOC is the only thing that can kill something. If that were the case it can’t be Sam or Cas. Maybe Crowley is really more than he seems, but that seems a bit lame. The only other reason is to teach someone a lesson, but Dean in his right mind would probably not trade the mark for a dead brother. And it seems silly the MOC could kill God. I just can’t get behind any of that. I would love to see a surprise turn-around, some “leverage” type of double-cross, but I don’t expect that.
Wow, this sounds depressing but I do have hope as I am a foolish optimist.
And people are forgetting about Cain’s arbitrarily ordered kills in his prophecy. First Crowley, then Cas and finally Sam and Dean’s fate will be sealed. It looks like both Cas and Crowley make it out of the finale just fine, so how much danger could Sam actually be in?
Hi there anyone who is here at the moment and anyone who is lurking – PLEASE go on the discussion and send something nice to Jared! Right now! Come on, he has given us so much and he really seems to be hurting right now.
Here is the link ([url]”https://www.thewinchesterfamilybusiness.com/lets-discuss/who-is-out-there-right-now”[/url])
Help someone who has done so much for this fandom! Please 🙂
I’m guessing Dean won’t be cured by a deal with Death. Rowena said something to the effect that the nun could only lift a curse by imposing another, so I figure Dean will have to be cured by the Book–if only so we can find out what the second curse is. Didn’t Misha Collins comment that everyone will be happy when the mark vanishes until something awful happens? The something awful could be the second curse. But would the second curse cause Dean to die and Sam to cry? Considering last season, that seems pretty redundant.
Anyway, percysowner and Sam Summer, thanks for the great clips and information!