CW Official Promo and Promotional Pictures for 10.21
We have a lot on the next episode, both the Promo that was shown after 10.20 and the Promotional pictures for
Dark Dynasty.
Here’s the promo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yugMCgGe4NU
And the pictures
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So now Charlie gets in on the telling Sam how awful he is to go behind Dean’s back to try and save Dean. Dean is going to be furious that Sam lied to him. The Stynes are back and they reveal that The Book of The Damned can’t be destroyed. I suppose it makes sense that something that powerful would be protectect. If the promotional pictures are representative, we will get lots of Charlie and Rowena. The pictures often aren’t representative, so I’m willing to wait and see. What do you think? Are you glad Charlie is back? Is it good that Sam convinced her to work on decoding the Book of The Damned? How will Rowena fit into the story? Will she be able to trick Charlie? Or will Charlie be too smart for her? What do you think about the return of the Stynes? How angry will Dean be when he finds out about the lies. Let us know in the comments.
i think dean is more far gone than he’s been letting on and in ea. episode we can see that he’s losing himself to the moc. that being said, sam is doing the right thing…dean is losing his battle and running out of time. also anything dean says right now, at least for me, can’t really be trusted. the way I see it, the mark wants to survive, so it will have dean say things and do things to push away those who are trying to save him, mostly sam. now will dean be angry because sam lied…of course….but it’s a wait and see for me…depending on what dean says to sam….if dean yells at sam and then it’s done, then I can believe dean is in control here…but if dean is cruel and overly hurtful to sam, then I’m going with the mark influencing dean…pushing sam away, because he’s the one threat to the mark….and the book, which might actually be dean’s salvation…well the mark would want that book as far away from dean and everyone else who is fighting to save him…so I can see dean seemingly against using that book ….but I have to wonder if the real dean, feels the same way.
I like Charlie and i’m glad she’s back. I don’t think she’s telling sam how awful he is. Charlie knows the history of the boys. she knows that secrets are bad and she’s just reminding him of that fact, that going this alone is not a good idea…and she would be right. i’m all for sam saving dean damned what dean might think, but I think it’s for the best if he’s honest about what he’s doing, in the state he’s in, he’s very vulnerable and due to his fear and desperation, he may not be thinking as clearly as he normally would. I would be much happier knowing that someone has his back. Charlie most certainly doesn’t think him awful, she’s totally aware of how scared sam is of losing dean and she knows that they’re at their best when working together..she’s said it often enough.
i’m pretty interested in the stynes….i’d like to know more about them and their wicked history and where that might lead us today.
[i].if dean yells at sam and then it’s done, then I can believe dean is in control here…but if dean is cruel and overly hurtful to sam, then I’m going with the mark influencing dean.[/i]
The thing is, with the way the writing has been since Carver took over, what exacty is cruel and overly hurtful to Sam? Telling him that he has to confess to starting the Apocalypse because even ending it and being tortured for thousands of years didn’t make amends, did that in Sacrifice. Telling him he will never be forgiven for Ruby, again see Sacrifice. Blaming him for having the sheer AUDACITY to allow Cas to rescue him but leave his soul behind, see…well Sacrifice. Tell him that saving him forced Dean to kill his “more of a brother than you’ve ever been” Benny…Sacrifice. Remind him that he committed a sin that DEAN actually committed (sleeping with Penny what’s her name)…Sacrifice. Find someone who blames him for starting the Apocalypse and not mention that Sam ENDED or at least was part of ending it (I mean Cas the perfect REALLY was the one we should thank), been there done that. Stand around while a friend like Charlie thanks Dean for stopping the Apocalypse and makes fun of Jess dying, been there done that as well. What exactly will be so cruel that we can blame it on the Mark alone? I mean yes, if Dean tries to beat Sam to death with a hammer then I suppose we can count that, although there is You Can’t Handle The Truth where he beat soulless Sam so badly that Cas had to heal him to save his life, so even that is not 100% true.
“lying to Dean.sneaking around”…Oh ho Charlie with all her judgy glory in tow.You have read the books Charlie ..they managed with lying and sneaking around before and they will manage it now.I will be waiting for Charlie to show her indignation when she comes to know that Dean has lied to sam…lied by omission..I hope she saves little of her “concern” then.I will feel bad if she only shows her concern to Sam.
But then Charlie is convinced not before she chastises Sam.
Dean:”BOOK OF THE DAMNED”…yes Dean it is a book about you and people like you.I do not know if it tells about damned people who were damned because of their impatience.
What I had hoped from the moment of Dean taking on the mark is Sam punching Dean and saying “If I did not know you I would want to hunt you”.But yeah it is still Dean shouting…As I said the only constant on the show as of now is “Sam is wrong”.Also Sam cannot voice his displeasure abt things done to him.on an off chance, he does he is wrong.Then it is promptly forgotten by the show.
Yeah Dean the book is with Charlie…the same charlie with her super ninja who “bested” the stynes.Do not worry she will be Okay.
it would be better if you would show concern abt the people who you are destined to kill.
The show does not know how to be any different when it comes to Sam . Charlie is there to vocalize what the writers want everyone to hear and Dean just gets to tell Sam off again it is pretty predictable by now.
Yes Sharon, as I had said in the earlier comments nothing new here..Once it was Tracie, sometimes it is Charlie, other times it is dean and other times it is Castiel.The show does not tire and I have begun to expect it.
Sharon as the latest episode tells us it was Castiel who saved the world…before it was dean who saved the world….Sam?well, he has bad luck with the ladies.
We had Bobby tell it now Charlie..but with Dean Kevin’s anger was not shown and he was surprisingly Okay with Dean.The double standards the show possesses is nothing surprising.
Well apparently the world and his wife saved the world except Sam , he just started the whole thing because of his selfishness and pride.
Dean told Claire her fathers sacrifice was not in vain, that because of his selflessness it enabled Cas to save the world. Dean is trying to make Claire feel better and see that her father was a hero, not give her a laundry list of all characters involved and their contribution. That wouldnt mean squat to her in that moment. I read somewhere that according to Robbie Thompson that line was written as ‘Cas helped to save the world’ but that Jensen chose to change it. Its not meant to diminish Sam or anyone elses contributions.
Alycat22 – in this particular instance, I kind of agree with you but there has been a long history in the Carver era, a narrative that keeps driving this point home so you gotta wonder what the deal is and why they seem to go out of their way to make this point.
Sometimes an apple is just an apple.
Let me re-write the dialog….
“You know, your dad….he really helped us when things got, bad… you know, end of the world bad. Without him Cas couldn’t have helped us, but he did, he gave himself to Cas because he believed it was the right thing to do and because of that he helped save the world. Look, I’m sorry your dad is gone, but he was a hero. Maybe someday that will help, something you can be proud of.”
There. It sounds like something Dean would say, its far more complimentary to Jimmy and didn’t ignore Sam’s contributions at all. Problem solved. And P.S. I’m not a writer which means the actual writer could have done at least as much if not better if he’d thought about it for 30 seconds longer than he did.
The writer did, you guys just didnt like what it implied. It was what was appropriate for that scene and the character whom Dean was addressing. It wasnt important at that moment that she know anything that had gone before. Short and to the point. Dean is addressing her the same way she addresses everyone else. Hes not dismissing anyone elses contributions. She understood.
Actually E, The original dialogue would have sufficed.It would give Claire what she needed .
Hi Guys I see you are still disappointed with the story the way Sam is being written – Sam is being ignored or attacked with selfishness by his brother & He is not being acknowledge for his past wins just his failures. I can see how you see that. But I think (personally) if we turn it around and look at it at a differnet angle The story is being told through Deans eyes and that is how Dean sees everything Black & White you know the old saying “Do as I say not as I do ” Dean has a personnality disorder and always has had a problem with how he sees himself. His Love for Sam is everthing Dean needs Sam – no Sam No Dean its always been like this We know Sam can move on and live without Dean But Dean can’t live without Sam. Sam is everthing he must live at all costs. Anything and everything that could endanger his life whether its good or bad Dean will get angry at and bring up often because it is the only way he knows how. I have been radomly watching episodes during the week and I have noticed at least 3 times Sam has told Dean he Loves him ok he was either drunk or doped up on pain killers, Dean has never said it to Sam not even Lisa. this surely helps you understand Dean’s insucruities – I’m worthless I can die, and the MOC is eating this up and making it a 100 times worse. Unless they turn the show into a sloppy Love thy Brother series you won’t ever get the Sam story the way you hope. We all know who saved the world and who sacrificed themselve. Sam knows he did this he isn’t looking for any reward. Cas, Sam, Dean, and Bobby were all involved. And as Alycat said that would mean squat to Claire. Dean said Cas saved the world to make it look better for Claire thats it. No other reason I’m sorry SPN lovers I don’t think you will get the forgiveness or the closure you would like to see for Sam. Its a TV show after all We just love it and are passionate about Sam & Dean :(:(
Hi Jen,
The story is being told from Dean’s POV? Let me present a radical idea ..let the show be from Sam’s POV.Dean ahs got Myth arc hasn’t he.Also Charlie does not see it through Dean’s eyes.Tracie did not need to be a character who was introduced.
[quote]His Love for Sam is everthing Dean needs Sam – no Sam No Dean its always been like this We know Sam can move on and live without Dean But Dean can’t live without Sam.[/quote]Love is not everything.I could care less if for Dean it is no sam no Dean..If it means Sam’s autonomy are in danger because of Dean himself.[quote]Anything and everything that could[b] endanger his life[/b] whether its good or bad Dean will get angry at and bring up often because it is the only way he knows how.[/quote]Unless it is Dean himself.[quote] I have been radomly watching episodes during the week and I have noticed at least 3 times Sam has told Dean he Loves him ok he was either drunk or doped up on pain killers, Dean has never said it to Sam not even Lisa.[/quote]So Dean is insecure and because of that he does not say to sam that he loves him?.Okay does not make a bit of sense to me.[quote] Unless they turn the show into a sloppy Love thy Brother series you won’t ever get the Sam story the way you hope. [/quote]Who said anything about Love thy brother sloppiness.All you said after “his love for Sam is every thing….” is ripe with love thy brother sloppiness.[quote] Sam knows he did this he isn’t looking for any reward. [/quote]So Cas and Dean are looking for reward?[quote]And as Alycat said that would mean squat to Claire.[/quote]and as Percys njspnfan and I have told it is not just this episode it is a pattern.[quote] No other reason I’m sorry SPN lovers I don’t think you will get the forgiveness or the closure you would like to see for Sam.[/quote]Sam does not need to ask forgiveness for anything .Dean has to ask forgiveness not Sam.If Dean does not it is a slight on him a big one.
I caught something in this preview; does the Styne family member that Dean has strung up say the Book of the Damned cannot be destroyed? So even if it were thrown in the fire, it wouldn’t have been destroyed?
Correct-a-mundo. 🙂
”WE” did not know/hear this, before this clip.
That’s what I heard. Sadly I think the only thing that will be talked about is how Sam LIED to Dean about burning the book, not that it couldn’t be destroyed at all.
that’s interesting; i was thinking the same thing before Sam switched books and burned the other one, wondering if it could be destroyed. Will be interested if Dean comes clean on this tidbit with Sam, or just hauls off and punches him 🙂
Huh. You know, I did hear it but I didn’t really process it until now. I wonder if ANYONE will acknowledge that Sam probably did the right thing by keeping, at least it’s in the lock box, unable to be tracked or traced instead sitting in the fireplace NOT burned and luring every single Styne right to the brothers? I’ll bet they don’t. I’ll also bet that when whatever Sam is doing goes tits up that everyone will be equally quick to tell him what a fool he is, how wrong he is and what a crap brother he’s been.
Anyone else get the feeling that Charlie is possibly not long for this world? Although with Cas around I’m not sure how she could end up dead. That will mostly likely be Sam’s fault as well.
Thanks anonymousN We both have different opinions – I read your posts and see where your coming from. I know what I won’t to say and it usually comes across wrong I agree with mostly what you say but just wanted to help by trying to get you to see it different maybe. You seem very disappointed lately I only wanted to try and cheer you up :(:(:D:D
Thanks Jen.
In the still photos Sam & Dean in the Bunker – they seemed concerned who or whats in the bunker. ????? Is it Dean that charges into Charlies Motel room. :(:( From the snippets we get Dean doesn’t seem to upset. Rowenna – well she’d just being Rowenna – not saying much & Charlie she seems to be the only happy one. I give up speculating LOL can’t tell much with these little bits
New promo that I am sure will be posted soon makes this next episode even more interesting.