Interviews with Jeremy Carver on What is Coming in Season 10 of Supernatural
As we enter the last half of season 10, Jeremy Carver has given several interviews on what to expect next.
From The Hollywoood Reporter http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/supernatural-jeremy-carver-spoilers-interview-762747
[You’re] going to see Sam questioning all over again how far he’s willing to go on behalf of his brother.
On Cas’s role
Castiel certainly is instrumental in the hunt to save Dean from the Mark.
On being renewed
You have talked a lot about your “three-year” arc for Supernatural, but The CW did just renew the show for season 11. Are you altering your plans now? To be perfectly honest, I think that started to alter or change even last season when I realized we were probably going further. So basically the notion of that arc, some of it’s been accordioned out in certain moments, and other things have been dropped in. We spread our wings more knowing we have many more seasons.
On Dean
GN: And speaking of exciting places, when we last saw Dean, well, he snapped. What’s next for him and his Mark of Cain problem? Carver: What begins to overtake both Dean and Sam, and Castiel to a certain extent, is how do we keep what happened in episode nine from happening again. How do we keep Dean from getting even worse and keep the Mark from overtaking him once again
On Heaven
Heaven is a part of the story, but the policies of heaven do not play as heavily into the end of the season as they have recently.
On Rowena and Crowley
We all know over the last couple of seasons ever since he took that human blood, he’s been, I would say, a not quite as ruthless King of Hell that we’ve known and she just wants him to be who he is.
On Sam and someone coming back from his past
Sam will have to deal with someone from his past but not necessarily like everyone else.
From EW http://insidetv.ew.com/2015/01/20/supernatural-season-10-episode-10-jeremy-carver/
On Dean and the Mark
So will human Dean end up being darker than Demon Dean ever was? “That’s certainly the fear,” showrunner Jeremy Carver said. “
On Cas and his relationships with Sam and Dean and with Claire
The brothers’ quest for a solution will give fans more interaction between Castiel, their favorite good angel, and Sam and Dean. But that doesn’t mean Cas is done with Claire. “The Claire-Castiel story is not finished,”
On Sam
As for Sam, the younger brother remains focused on saving Dean, though Carver assures fans that Sam’s story will be as juicy and emotional as ever.
So what do you think? Will you miss the angelic politics? Are you glad Cas is working with Sam and Dean? Are you glad Claire will return to the story? How about Crowley and Rowena. Do you look forward to her trying to whip Crowley into shape and be a better King of Hell? Are you relieved that Sam will continue to get the in depth and intensive look at his emotional life that he has received since Carver became show runner? How do you feel about the arc being stretched out since the show has been renewed? Share your thoughts on where the season seems to be going.
[b]Are you relieved that Sam will continue to get the in depth and intensive look at his emotional life that he has received since Carver became show runner?[/b] I’m sorry but is this supposed to be interpreted as heavy sarcasm? It certainly would make sense if it was.
[i]UM EPIOSDE 12 14 YEAR OLD DEAN! God Carver is an idiot and how is that a decent storyline for Sam when its all about Dean again?[/i]
Very heavy sarcasm. I’m afraid reading how they were going to [b]CONTINUE[/b] to explore Sam’s juicy emotional story got my sarcasm ramped up to 1000.
[b]IGN: It seems like there’s been a theme this season of people from the past returning. Claire’s in Castiel’s life, Rowena has shown up for Crowley, and Cole visited Dean. Is Sam going to have anyone from his past show up in the back half of the season?
Carver: Yes. The coy answer would be yes, but not in the way you’re asking. Sam will have to deal with someone from his past but not necessarily like everyone else. That’s the best answer I can give you.[/b]
UM EPIOSDE 12 14 YEAR OLD DEAN! God Carver is an idiot and how is that a decent storyline for Sam when its all about Dean again?
[i]UM EPIOSDE 12 14 YEAR OLD DEAN! God Carver is an idiot and how is that a decent storyline for Sam when its all about Dean again?[/i]
You’re brighter than I am. I didn’t put 2 and 2 together and realize they were talking about young Dean. Good catch!
IGN:
[quote] We’ve left some things boiling on the stove which we’ll come back to, and we’ve introduced other storylines. So, in my mind, we’ve sort of accordioned that arc out a little bit to fill it in with much more story. [/quote]
… and that shows in a bad way. After demon Dean was cured, it was season nine mark of Cain Dean all over again. And what about ghost Kevin and all the souls stuck in the Veil? Gavin and the butterfly effect?
[quote] I think, for the most part, heaven is a bit in the same shape that we left at the beginning of the season in that things are largely under control. We do have interactions with heaven. Heaven is a part of the story, but the policies of heaven do not play as heavily into the end of the season as they have recently. [/quote]
They know that fans didn’t like that storyline.
[quote] I can’t deny that there’s a lot happening, and there’s probably a lot more secrets in terms of who’s doing what going into the second half of the season. [/quote]
I’m tired of the boys lying to each other. I bet Sam is the one doing dubious things in secret.
Why does Sam’s morals and ethics get dissected on the show while Dean’s actions are explained by his upbringing (saving Sammy) and even some of his flaws are in actuality pretty good traits for a character like not thinking things all the way through before acting?
I guess during season 5 they teased the possibility of a brother going against brother (Michael and Lucifer) so now five years later they are doing it again but using Cain and Abel as the backdrop. Maybe they keep bringing up the idea of Sam doing “depraved” or “unsavory” things so that a confrontation between the brothers would seem possible. Sam has good intentions (he wants to save his brother’s soul from the mark’s influence) but maybe he still goes down a dark path again. Thus, Dean might end up fearing that he’ll have to stop Sam in order to save him even if it means using the mark of Cain and condemning himself in the process.
[i]Why does Sam’s morals and ethics get dissected on the show while Dean’s actions are explained by his upbringing (saving Sammy) and even some of his flaws are in actuality pretty good traits for a character like not thinking things all the way through before acting?
I guess during season 5 they teased the possibility of a brother going against brother (Michael and Lucifer) so now five years later they are doing it again but using Cain and Abel as the backdrop. Maybe they keep bringing up the idea of Sam doing “depraved” or “unsavory” things so that a confrontation between the brothers would seem possible. Sam has good intentions (he wants to save his brother’s soul from the mark’s influence) but maybe he still goes down a dark path again. Thus, Dean might end up fearing that he’ll have to stop Sam in order to save him even if it means using the mark of Cain and condemning himself in the process.[/i]
There seems to be a deep unwillingness on the part of the show to ever imply that Dean may be just plain wrong and if he does something “bad” Sam must immediately be seen as worse and the show must question his morality and goodness. It’s just the way it is. I do think the sad fact is that Kripke went in with the idea that saintly Dean would eventually have to kill evil Sam (a quote he made in an interview on the 200th episode) and on some level the writers refuse to let that go. Dean can go full fledged demon, kill humans, be out of control, but in the end, if a brother has to be killed, well Sam will suddenly be the REAL danger and Dean will be the perfect saint saving the world by breaking his heart and killing Sam.
[quote]assures fans that Sam’s story will be as juicy and emotional as ever.[/quote]That is my fear..and well it has been confirmed.
The Hollywood Reporter:
[quote] Figuring out how to get rid of this Mark, and then in lieu of that, figuring out how to deal or live with this Mark, becomes something of an obsession for the brothers over the second half of the season — something they won’t always see eye to eye on. [/quote]
[quote] And then there are moments where Dean is going to be very, very honest with Sam in terms of what he thinks needs to be done. [/quote]
[quote] The threat of the Mark is that he is a great danger to others, but I think that then begs the question to someone like Dean, “What does that mean I have to do with myself?” [/quote]
Dean might still think that he needs to be killed off. He tends to be more pessimistic than Sam. Is Dean giving up even though Sam never has?
[quote] At the end of season eight, he was at a point where his life was not worth losing the life of others; at the end of [season nine], he went as far to agree that Dean’s life was worth sacrificing for a greater good [too]. [/quote]
I don’t think that that point came across in the finale of season nine. In a way, it might actually be a good thing that Carver thinks like that. Carver said, [i] “You’re going to see Sam questioning all over again how far he’s willing to go on behalf of his brother.” [/i] Instead of questioning Sam’s morals and ethics, the audience might see it as Sam going to great lengths to save his brother. The Winchesters have always been willing to go far for the sake of their family.
[quote] There’s going to be a lot of bargains made that people might wish they didn’t make by season’s end on behalf of what they consider to be the greater good. [/quote]
Hopefully, whatever Sam does is more about putting himself at risk although I’m sure that he’ll get criticized for doing things that could impact other people who shouldn’t have anything to do with the mark of Cain problem.
[quote] To be perfectly honest, I think that started to alter or change even last season when I realized we were probably going further. So basically the notion of that arc, some of it’s been accordioned out in certain moments, and other things have been dropped in. [/quote]
The mark of Cain storyline was moving really slow at times in season nine. Fans even wondered whether the mark was affecting Dean. Sam and Cas ended up looking bad because Dean was still spiraling down.
[quote] We spread our wings more knowing we have many more seasons. [/quote]
I think that there will be season 12. Maybe even season 13.
Entertainment Weekly:
[quote] So, in terms of Mark of Cain Dean being darker, that is certainly the threat.” [/quote]
I guess he could be darker now because being a demon absolved Dean from the things he did at the time.
[quote] But the idea of reconnecting with this sort-of daughter and what it means to him and what it sparks in Castiel in terms of how he sees his place here, is not over.” [/quote]
Castiel trying to be like a father to Claire would be a bit weird. In theory, Claire will one day look older than Castiel. He could be her guardian.
[quote] “If you think back to seasons past, there were plenty of times when Dean was very focused on what was going on with his brother, what’s ailing Sam. So given what happened in episode 9, it would be criminally negligent for Sam not to be worried about what’s happening with his brother, and that’s going to lead him on a journey that will become his own, but the root of it is, ‘How am I going to save my brother?’” [/quote]
That sounds like they know what fans have been saying. Many fans wanted that kind of role reversal but the writers haven’t actually written for Sam like they would have written for Dean if Sam had the mark of Cain. There have been many episodes where Sam barely had a role in the story.
Castiel trying to be like a father to Claire would be a bit weird. In theory, Claire will one day look older than Castiel. He could be her guardian.
Castiel trying to be a father to Claire is like Azazel inhabiting a female and trying to be a mother to Sam and Dean. Why on earth would Claire ever want to be near a guy who kidnapped her dad, talked an eleven year old into being possessed once her dad broke free, blackmailed her dad into returning to being kidnapped and then got him killed? Why isn’t this just plain repulsive?
I do find it interesting in all these interviews about how far will Sam go to save Dean and will he give up his morals, the writers are completely overlooking the fact that they established last season. Killing Dean won’t do a lick of good! If Dean dies, the Mark (not the Blade, the Mark) brings him back and he becomes a demon again. Yes Sam can cure him again, and then we hit lather, rinse, repeat. Sam needing to save Dean is partly because there isn’t (as of now) a way to kill Dean and keep him down. So I’m not sure why Sam trying to get rid of a Mark that won’t let Dean go and will turn him into a demon if Sam DOES kill him is suddenly a big deal What choice does he have? Other that lather, rinse, repeat.
Yes Percy’s you’ve hit it on the head. The whole arc for both and Dean and Cas are cyclical and therefore completely unsatisfying. Aren’t both Dean AND Cas right back where they were at the start of season 9 all over again? How utterly boring. Dean is once again spiraling down into violence with the looming threat of demon hood hovering over his head if he dies. Yawn… been there. Cas is once again living on borrowed grace and will probably have to face his ultimate mortality AGAIN… yawn, done that.
At least there seems to be SOME recognition that Sam has basically done absolutely nothing at all since he kicked Gadreel out last year. It seems that in the story retread mill that he will be revisiting season 3… the Sam Desperate to Save Dean plot. This reused plot devise is so old now it actually feels like the freshest and most innovative of all the plots currently running. And I agree with whoever said that if had been Sam who had taken on the MoC that Dean would never have been sidelined so thoroughly. He would have been made active in the Sam has the Mark plot the same way he was active in the Sam was Possessed by an Angel plot, the Sam is Drinking Demon Blood plot, the Sam has Freaky Powers plot the Sam is Soulless plot etc… etc..etc… Why Sam is currently so uninvolved with Dean and the Mark is beyond me.
And I’m sorry, but I couldn’t care less about Claire or Cas and his guilt. Cas has been around for millennia… why does he care about Claire more than all the other vessels he’s had over the past two thousand years? He could go visit them all in heaven I suppose and tell them all he’s sorry. I am not at all invested in Cas and his involvement with his former vessels or their families. And why is Claire so utterly clueless? Wasn’t she a vessel herself? Even if it was for such a short time she should be more savvy then she is and show that she comprehends more than she does. I mean she wanders off and involves herself with serial killers, she just happens to stumble upon them? What is she? A magnet for all the scum of the earth? First Randy, now these thugs… it’s all so incredibly improbable…. there’s not a shred of plausibility to any of this storyline….which is ironic because it’s the most human of all the story lines. I’d like it to go away and soon. Maybe Dean will kill her in a Mark fueled rage… that’s the only thing that could make either the MoC story, Claire’s story or Cas’s story even remotely interesting to me.
It speaks volumes about Sam’s story that people got more excited for Sam’s wet hair than anything else. I like Sam’s morals and that there had been lines he was not willing to cross , being on the end of some pretty major decisions that did not exactly end well I have always understood why Sam felt that way. The MOC was not the only issue to of come out of season 9 but they will not get addressed because the only story is apparently that and the onus on Sam to be challenged again as a character over his stance and change his idea.s , but they are not really involving Sam in a way they should if they really want to make it a emotional deep sl between the brothers.
I’d like them to address what exactly is Dean now? A full fledged card carrying member of the human race or a MOC demon hybrid? As such is he immortal or only immortal if he dies turned. Did Crowleys little speech show Dean he wasn’t dead or did Crowley placing the First Blade into deceased Deans palm what allowed the MOC to bring him back demonically. It will be interesting to see what gets answered when Dean meets back up with Cain
Speaking of Cain, his episode is titled The Executioners Song, correct? Thats a title of a book based on the murderer Gary Gilmore who refused all his appeals to his death sentence conviction preferring to die rather than life in prison. I think he was to be executed but before that happened Oregon ruled against Capital Punishment for their State. I believe he had to fight for how he wanted to die, which was firing squad. I may have some of this confused. So is Cain, Gilmore? The heartless murderer who would rather die than have that life sentence? Is Dean the executioner? Or is there an unseen twist or does it have anything to do with anything at all? Nah, probably just a cool sounding title for the episode.
I loved how the actress who plays Rowena delivered her line, “Not a thing you evil bitch, Mother.” in that initial scene with Crowley. Yeah Some some of her acting is OTT but shes starting to grow on me. I liked her in the Dean, Cole scene when he had her at gunpoint til Cole showed up.
Still ambivalent toward Claire, but I like that we are finally seeing some movement forward with all the other characters starting to tie into the Winchesters. Wonder when we will see Metatron again?
For the record? I think I could write a more coherant, more believeable script than the Nep Duo – and I’m not a writer. Has Singers wife ever penned a script on her own? I always see her paired up with the other one. Or maybe they are the same person, split personalities? Or conjoined twins? Or 2 brains in a jar? There has to be a reason they both feed off of each others mediocre writing…
I’m hoping that Carver is getting a message from all these questions about what SAM is going to be doing this season. Since he basically has no answer other than vagueness about Sam’s “juicy” emotional journey, maybe he’ll see that people actually would like to see Sam DOING something besides practicing looking worried while simultaneously looking pretty.
[i]I’m hoping that Carver is getting a message from all these questions about what SAM is going to be doing this season. Since he basically has no answer other than vagueness about Sam’s “juicy” emotional journey, maybe he’ll see that people actually would like to see Sam DOING something besides practicing looking worried while simultaneously looking pretty[/i]
Considering people were practically begging him in season eight to just SHOW US why Sam decided Dean was dead and he never did, I’m guessing a few mild questions about will Sam have a story isn’t going to convince him of anything. In general I support writers presenting the story they want and not caving to fan demands. I’m just really not happy with the story Carver has been telling for three years.
I also usually, generally agree with writers not caving to fans, (Castiel , Dean with the mythology, anyone?) but Sam’s story makes me feel like I have this huge banquet of delicious looking food in front of me and all I can do is stand behind the ropes looking at it while a dinner guest (writer) throws crumbs to me once in a while.
[quote] [b] Can you make my day with some Sam Supernatural news? — Maria [/b]
For those of you who are worried about Sam not getting his own story in the second half of the season, executive producer Jeremy Carver promises that’s not the case. That said, Sam’s story will revolve around saving Dean. “It’s going to be a Sam story, but it’s going to be focused around, ‘How do I save my brother?’ And it’s going to make Sam ask a lot of questions [about] himself that may actually have him questioning stances he’s taken in the last couple years,” Carver says. “Sam’s come a very far way in the last couple years in terms of this unwillingness to let others die while the brothers live. And what Dean is facing is going to have Sam facing that question anew. People should not despair that Sam doesn’t have a story. Sam has a story, and he has a want.” Feel better? [/quote]
http://insidetv.ew.com/2015/01/23/spoiler-room-arrow-murder-supernatural-spoilers/
1-does Carver sound like a complete dick to anyone else? As a Sam fan I feel like he’s just telling me STFU and go away.
2-remember last season when they dropped hints at Sam storlines that amounted to one line in one episode (Sam focusing on hunting down Demons now they have the cure? Sam being sort of suicidal because he was sick of others dying for him/because of him?) I fully expect what Carver says here to just come down to 1 line in 1 episode and maybe some stuff to happen off screen, though there hasnt been any hint of Sam doing anything like what Carver is talking about. As far as I can tell the next episodes are Charlie/Dean, young Dean, MOTW episode, Dean/Cain, Dean/Cole. Doesnt seem like there will be much for Sam to do or much time to explore anything Carver has mentioned.
3-they wont give Sam a storyline of his own that might make him come out looking the good guy, Dean is the hero of this show Carver has made it clear he doesnt value Sam as a hero, an important character in his own right. They wont have Dean do anything to questionable, as someone has already mentioned Dean though a demon at one point and carrying the MOC is still the moral compass of the show so what chance does Sam have? Anything he does is going to be considered as wrong/bad/immoral.
No I do not ”feel better” Mr Carver esp as you are basing his story on ‘stances’ you did not remotely explore. I know the show loves to perpetuate ideas about Sam but your perception of him and mine are worlds apart.
I do not know why this whole thing was born out of season 7 but for Sam going to lengths to save Dean he has being doing that since season 1,s Faith and in your own Mystery Spot.
[quote] “It’s going to be a Sam story, but it’s going to be focused around, ‘How do I save my brother?’ And it’s going to make Sam ask a lot of questions [about] himself that may actually have him questioning stances he’s taken in the last couple years,” Carver says. [/quote]
I will absolutely hate it if they’ll twist Sam’s words in season nine to mean that Sam had claimed he wouldn’t have tried to save Dean if Dean had been dying.
[b] 9.13 The Purge [/b]
[i] Sam: I’ll give you this much. You are certainly willing to do the sacrificing as long as you’re not the one being hurt.
Dean: All right, you want to be honest? If the situation were reversed and I was dying, you’d do the same thing.
Sam: No, Dean. I wouldn’t. Same circumstances…I wouldn’t. [/i]