The Supernatural Gospels: A Cosmological Scripture
In the beginning was the Darkness, a horribly destructive amoral force.i Then there was God (well, and Death), and God felt … experimental. God created Leviathan.ii Consisting of nothing but rapacious appetite, Leviathan were a relatively simple creation. However, God quickly realized he’d neglected to build in limits on their appetites. According to Death, concerned that Leviathan would devour anything else he created, God established Purgatory and imprisoned Leviathan there: the first monsters.
Having acquired some cautionary experience, God created Heaven and made angels to be his helpmates in the rest of his creation. He created each of them directly as distinct multidimensional wavelengths of celestial intenti and imbued them with purpose, starting with the injunction to obey him in all things.ii
God and his archangels – the most powerful of his angelic servants – beat back the Darkness in a terrible war. God locked the Darkness where it could do no harm, creating a Mark that served as both lock and key, and entrusted the Mark to his trusted lieutenant, Lucifer.iii
God shaped the Earth and all life on it. He crafted humans as material beings born with souls of power that would, in turn, provide that power to Heaven upon the deaths of their mortal bodies.iv God directed his angels to bow before humans and to protect and serve them as they served God.v
Possessing free will and inherent creativity, humans could act contrary to God’s wishes. Even upon death, they could refuse to cooperate with God’s plans by channeling the power of their souls to remain connected to the Earth as ghosts, rather than delivering that power to Heaven. They suffered the consequence of eventual insanity if they did that, but they were free to choose.vi
The Mark revealed itself as a curse, beginning to corrupt Lucifer and make him jealous of humanity.vii Lucifer protested against being ordered to place humans on a level with or even above God and angels. Arguing that humans were a flawed creation, Lucifer deliberately proved his point by warping and corrupting the human Lilith into the first demon.viii Lucifer also incited the first murder, passing the Mark on to Cain.ix God condemned Lucifer and those he corrupted to imprisonment in Hell.
Meanwhile, in Purgatory, the Leviathans apparently gave rise to Eve, the Mother of Monsters, who found a way to reach Earth to infect humans with monster RNA. She perverted humans into vampires, werewolves, shapeshifters, ghouls, lamia, kami, dragons, and all other human-shaped monsters with an insatiable, Leviathan-born appetite for human blood, hearts, livers, flesh, and other organs and parts. The monsters Eve created could produce more versions of themselves either by breeding with humans or by infecting other humans through physical attacks; some could do both.x Upon death, the corrupted souls of the monsters born of Eve’s tampering were consigned to Purgatory, like the Leviathans whose character they shared.xi Eve’s descendants, the Alphas, claimed kinship with Leviathan, although Leviathan never acknowledged the relationship.xii Eve’s earthly death, exuding black slime, seemed to corroborate her link to Leviathan.xiii
The timeline is fuzzy on this point, but Eve may also have given birth to all the other non-Christian gods, at least as they are depicted by Supernatural. All the non-Christian gods, as shown in A Very Supernatural Christmas, Hammer of the Gods, Defending Your Life, Heartache, Remember the Titans, and more, partook of the Leviathan taste for eating people, strongly suggesting a common origin.xiv
In any case, Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory all drew power from the souls residing there. Their borders had to be porous to allow new souls to enter; judging by the presence of demons on Earth, that porosity evidently meant some also could escape. Hell and Purgatory further drew their character from the souls consigned to them: demons in Hell tortured newly arrived souls to transform them into demons as they themselves had been transformed,xv while monsters in Purgatory engaged in a nonstop orgy of hunting and killing.xvi Angels and demons who learned to collect and tap multiple souls acquired powers far beyond their own; the souls Castiel borrowed from Crowley temporarily amped Cas up to archangelic levels,xvii and the ones he siphoned from Purgatory made him godlike.xviii Similarly, Crowley gained leadership in Hell by expanding his power base.
Somewhere along the way, God dictated his Word to the angel scribe Metatron, creating stone tablets of information intended to be interpreted by divinely-inspired human prophets to protect and benefit humankind.xix He established such tablets of knowledge defining angels, demons, Leviathan, and more. The exact number of tablets and the subjects encompassed by each have not been determined.
Over time, partially on their own and partially through deliberate temptation by demons, monsters, and corrupted angels, humans developed the principles of witchcraft, devising formulas – generally called spells – intended to warp reality to their own purposes irrespective of the designs and intent of God.xx
At some point in history, reportedly just after the advent of Jesus, God decided to leave Heaven and Earth in the custody of his angels, and vanished. He commanded his angels simply to watch and guard from a distance.xxi Over time, however, some of those angels, including Zachariah and Michael, became impatient with just watching humanity, and determined instead to accelerate the apocalypse predicted by divine scripture in order to gain angels the eventual paradise on Earth promised by God.xxii They went so far as to interfere directly in human affairs deliberately to produce genetic offspring that would fit the predetermined parameters of the principal participants: human brothers to play the parts of Michael and Lucifer. Their interference resulted in the births of Dean and Sam Winchester.xxiii
And thus our show began. We’ve been watching the Winchester Gospels ever since. And we’ve been seeing this cosmology constantly expanded and revised. Occasionally, we’ve even seen God himself taking a hand editing a chapter to adjust the outcome; God seems to have been behind all of Castiel’s various reincarnations and reputedly snatched the brothers away from Lucifer’s initial rising, not to mention allowing them access to Heaven.xxiv
The impact of individual choice has been everywhere in this story. All of God’s creations evidently possessed free will, even if he’d programmed them to believe otherwise; had angels not possessed free will, Uriel, Zachariah, Michael and Naomi couldn’t have plotted to bring about the scriptural apocalypse before its time. Without free will, Castiel couldn’t have been persuaded by contact with Dean Winchester to violate his orders from Zachariah, nor would he have been vulnerable to temptation by Crowley. Metatron couldn’t have decided to assume God’s role. Sam and Dean couldn’t have chosen, repeatedly, to screw destiny in order to save each other time and time again.
Corruption and perversion allowing no individual choice have also featured. Disproving early lore,xxv we’ve learned demons can possess anyone; something evidently due to demons having once been human themselves, fully able to exercise their own free will to bully others. We’ve been shown that a possessed soul can fight back and sometimes win,xxvi but no one can prevent possession in the first place without using spell symbols or magic. Humans also can’t resist most monster infections; they may be able to resist behaving as a monster – witness individual vampires and werewolves choosing to subsist on animal blood and hearts instead of killing humans,xxvii or lore about a rugaru in the know deliberately avoiding human bloodxxviii – but they often have no ability to avoid being transformed physically into a monster and thus being doomed to Purgatory upon death.
Demons, being warped human souls, could possess other humans without their consent most likely because humans had free will and could bully others. Angels, by God’s specific directive, were required to obtain the consent of a human in order to inhabit a host body.xxix Once they inhabited it, however, they could, if they so chose, experience every physical sensation available to a human, including sex – even breeding an angel/human hybrid.xxx They could also prevent their host from evicting them by locking away their human host’s conscious awareness.xxxi
I am curious to see where the show’s cosmology will go from here, although I’ll freely confess all the rewrites since the beginning have stressed the limits of my credulity. I particularly loathe the absolute deference the show currently pays to the powers of witches and witchcraft. I’ll confess my personal distaste for that whole aspect of the show; I tend to believe the writers – especially my acknowledged absolute least favorites, Eugenie Ross-Leming and her script partner Brad Buckner – use witchcraft as a shortcut to achieve anything they want to do, irrespective of logic, reason, or any intellectual rigor. That was reflected in my critiques of such episodes as Man’s Best Friend With Benefits.xxxii Because of that, I don’t care at all for or about Rowena and her relationship with Crowley and the Winchesters. Rowena and the Darkness will obviously play major roles in season 11; to my mind, both of them are Johnny-Come-Latelies and thus don’t matter to me.
But Sam and Dean matter to me, and always will.
Because of that, I’ll always read and watch Supernatural: the Winchester Gospels.
i10.23, Brother’s Keeper, 2015
ii7.01, Meet the New Boss, 2011
i6.03, The Third Man, 2010
ii4.10, Heaven and Hell, 2008
iiiSee footnote i.
iv6.17, My Heart Will Go On, 2011
v5.04, The End, 2009
vi 2.01, In My Time of Dying, 2006; 4.15, Death Takes a Holiday, 2009; 7.10, Death’s Door, 2011
viiSee footnote i.
viii4.21, When the Levee Breaks, 2009
ix9.11, First Born, 2014
x6.16, And Then There Were None, 2011; 6.19, Mommy Dearest, 2011
xi 8.01, We Need to Talk About Kevin, 2012
xii 7.22 There Will Be Blood, 2012
xiii 6.19, Mommy Dearest, 2011
xiv 3.08, A Very Supernatural Christmas, 2007; 5.19, Hammer of the Gods, 2010; 7.04, Defending Your Life, 2011; 8.03, Heartache, 2012; 8.16, Remember the Titans, 2013
xv 3.09, Malleus Maleficarum, 2008; 4.10, Heaven and Hell, 2008
xvi 8.05, Blood Brother, 2012
xvii 6.20, The Man Who Would Be King, 2011
xviii 6.22, The Man Who Knew Too Much, 2011
xix7.21, Reading Is Fundamental, 2012; 8.02, What’s Up, Tiger Mommy?, 2012; 8.07, A Little Slice of Kevin, 2012; 8.17, Goodbye Stranger, 2013
xx3.09, Malleus Maleficarum, 2008; 5.07, The Curious Case of Dean Winchester, 2009; 7.05, Shut Up, Dr Phil, 2011; 8.15, Man’s Best Friend With Benefits, 2013;
xxi See footnote iv.
xxii 4.22, Lucifer Rising, 2009
xxiii 5.14, My Bloody Valentine, 2010
xxiv 5.16, Dark Side of the Moon, 2010
xxv 1.04, Phantom Traveler, 2005
xxvi 5.01, Sympathy for the Devil, 2009; 5.06, I Believe the Children Are Our Future, 2009; 5.22, Swan Song, 2010
xxvii 2.03, Bloodlust, 2006; 6.05, Live Free or TwiHard, 2010; 8.04, Bitten, 2012; 8.05, Blood Brother, 2012; 9.12, Sharp Teeth, 2014
xxviii 4.04, Metamorphosis, 2008
xxix 4.20, The Rapture, 2009; 5.01, Sympathy for the Devil, 2009
xxx 6.03, The Third Man, 2010; 8.23, Sacrifice, 2013; 9.01, I Think I’m Gonna Like It Here, 2013
xxxi 9.10, Road Trip, 2014
xxxiihttps://www.thewinchesterfamilybusiness.com/article-archives/episode-review/17729-815-mans-best-friend-with-benefits-and-then-some-other-crap
Thank you Bardicvoice that was a great read. You put everything together so beautifully. I am really curious to see how the Darkness will manifest itself and how team free will can defeat it. Or at least lock it back up. I am not a fan of witchcraft either. It never resonated with me. But since it is going to be a major part of the show I assume from here on out I guess like you I will have to go with it. Sam and Dean are what matter. As long as they keep fighting I will keep watching.
Thank you Bardicvoice, that was extremely well put together very clever, for me it gave the show another perspective. Witchcraft not sure either I think it has a place in SPN but not as a major story line. Its another angel but I don’t know how our boys would fight witchcraft unless they learnt witchcraft ??!! Demons and other monsters have faults and weakness something the boys can fight against If they came up against a witch he/she would cast a spell and that would be the end of it. NAH can’t see witches in the show their not even Supernatural
As for the darkness – if written correctly that could be great. I have had many thoughts as to what the darkness is. My latest theory is that the Darkness is a heading for many creatures (Like – Botannical – flowers, Zoo a place to keep animals ) What if the Darkness just releases all kinds of destructive creatures that Sam & Dean havn’t fought before and some they have – similar to The Gates of Hell back in S5 instead of demons Creepy Creatures ;););)
Bardicvoice, I thoroughly enjoyed this and it is great you could put what has happened in a timeline. That is no mere feat.When the reference “Winchester Gospels” appeared on show I have actually wished someone would do an article like this. (Also it would be an awesome name to pile up the whole story and canon of the show) but I think that is wishful thinking on my part. I have nothing against witches or witchcraft but it shouldn’t be answer to everything like you wrote.
– Lilah
*applauds* That was a good read :o!
Excellent article! I had always assumed that God and the archangels beat back the Darkness BEFORE God created Leviathan, but I assume that in the episode where Death explains the Levis he says that they came before the angels were created? I also agree with you about witchcraft. While some witch episodes have worked well for me (Malleus Maleficarum) the show has never truly explained the whole witchcraft thing. There are no rules and they do what you said, just stretch witchcraft to meet the needs of the plot. Almost every recurring character on the show has used spells, including some very powerful ones, as when the brothers and Bobby bound Death. But they’re not witches, are they? So what is the difference between a witch and any regular person who casts a spell? Rowena talked about the three different types of witches, but again, how does that mesh with the fact that many different people on the show have used spells or been witches without seeming to fit one of the three witch profiles? Right from the very beginning there has been no consistency or clear canon regarding witches and it’s very annoying. In Brothers Keeper when Rowena cast that spell on Crowley and Cas, she didn’t seem to use any powders or materials as she did when she cast all of her other spells, she just said her incantation. And I agree with Crowley, she’s never been that powerful before. If she somehow acquired a new power from the BOTD, they had better spell that out next season. I suspect, however, that the situation is as you say- the show just tweaks witchcraft to suit the plot.
Thank you, Bardicvoice, that was a fun and informative read. I’ve wondered how deities/gods from other cultures (Egyptian, Greek, Norse, Hindu, etc.) fit in to the grand scheme of the SPN universe and your explanation kind of works, though it doesn’t explain how they seemed to get their mojo from worshippers, but that power waned as people stop believing in them (i.e. Chronos). And human souls are very powerful little nuclear reactors; we’ve seen some humans (Henry Winchester for time travel) and Angels (Castiel getting a jump start from Bobby’s soul) tap the power of the human soul. I wonder if this is an area they’ll expand upon and explore further in Season 11.
And, I’m with you on witches; for the most part, they just haven’t worked well on the show.
Thank you, Bardicvoice! The very thing I’ve been wanting to read for I don’t know how long. Among other things you’ve solved my problem with cannibalistic gods, yeah, they should be offsprings of Levis, sounds logical to me. As to witches, as samandean10 put it, everyone is a witch on SPN, even God himself dictated a list of spells on his tablets as his last will instead of commandments. Well, spells are handier.
There are two things I still don’t understand and/or can’t agree with in SPNmythology: 1)demonic power to possess people – anyone can be possessed, really? And our world is not Hell’s subsidiary yet? 2)and transforming/ demoting angels into people, while we know that angels have no souls and are different species altogether. Neither of these has ever been explained, or I missed something?
Now what was first – Levis or Darkness? I always pictured it in the terms of places – God is located in the center of the world and can be seen as personification of Paradise ( in Heart of Angel a rogue angel said that people’s souls are particles of Heaven, now that’s interesting) while Purgatory/Hell are thrown as far as possible to the very borders of Creation and personify opposition both literally and metaphorically. Darkness however doesn’t have any location but on somebody’s hand or else … Here I’m puzzled. Ok, let Carver rake his head over this. 😉 As to who was the first I’d say it was Levis. Darkness was something on God’s way he didn’t pay much attention at first, he was too busy creating things. eventually He realised the power of Darkness and had to make archangels to help Him to cope with it. I think I must stop now.
Seem to remember, early in the series, that regular demons could only possess people that were psychologically vulnerable, but that, like “Christo”, was dropped as the series went along.
Oh wow I totally forgot about that with demons only possessing vulnerable people. 😮
Just the same as Sam and Dean seem to have forgotten about “Christo” (I loved that!) 😉
You know Novi, I just reread your post and it got me to thinking about the tablets. What if there is a Darkness tablet? After all, there was one for angels, demons, and leviathan. Maybe that’s how Metatron could tie into next year’s plot, if he transcribed that tablet as well as the others. That could be kind of cool, no?
I get the excitement over The Darkness!!! and the many ways people are proposing that it will manifest itself but I can’t get over the whole “amoral” thing. Short of returning the world back to the way it was pre War with God and the Archangels, why would it care about anything else? Does it have to stoop to doing evil things, ala demons, to achieve what it wants? Why? A rock could be viewed as amoral. I don’t see it trying to influence me to pick it up and bash my neighbors head in with it. (Sorry Bob, if you’re reading this, I’m just using you as an example. Honest!) This is what I don’t understand. Leviathans wanted to eat us and take over. The Darkness!!! from what I’ve deduced is not personified, tho this next time around it probably will be and I’m sure it will also have a hankerin for long pig too. Just please, no more corporate suits and politics.
Hi AlyCat. Like you, I’ve been thinking about how the show will portray the whole Darkness thing, it being an “amoral” force. If you’re amoral, you don’t even think in terms of right and wrong, it has no meaning. I just read an interview of Sera Gamble from Season 6 in which she said that they tried to depict Soulless Sam as amoral; he simply had no moral bearings and made his decisions on a purely self-interested basis. That’s why he simply couldn’t understand WHY it was wrong to have sex with the hippie chick while Dean was abducted! 🙂 And why he had no problem murdering Bobby to prevent them from stuffing that tainted soul back in him. I guess that’s what they tried to do in Mothers Little Helper: the soulless folks did whatever they felt like at the time. Hey, who doesn’t secretly want to beat hubby to death for complaining about what’s for dinner? So maybe the Darkness will infect people in the same way. It will be chaos as people do whatever is best for themselves with no thought of right or wrong. But I suspect TPTB will go in a completely different direction since I’m never right about these things.
Interesting. You know they will personify it tho I think it would be cool if they didn’t. This is a stupid example but in the Star trek movie where the Captain and crew had to confront Vger. In able to communicate with the carbon based units (aka plumbing on legs aka nothing but a maggot inside a worms ass Supernatural style), it ended up recreating the female interest crew member.. I thought the concept interesting. No corporate suits anywhere! Well, it was in space… So have The Darkness be an insidious force which spreads it’s influence but in an intelligent way, not just random Joe’s doing whatever they want. Is The Darkness!!! going to be represented by a late 20s snarky femme fatale (Watch out Dean!) who is so not impressed to be here? Eh, it could be worse, it could’ve been a teenager! 😉
If she’s going to use her feminine wiles on the brothers, I hope TPTB realize that it’s Sam’s turn for some action. The poor guy hasn’t been with a woman since Amelia (that we know of). The biggest danger next year could be him exploding from sexual frustration. I’m always good for raising the level of discourse on the site, eh?
Hi Bardicvoice… this was really interesting and a very good read. You managed to tie together all of the religious/mystical/magical elements that the show has introduced over the years in a way that actually makes pretty good sense. I agree with you (and everyone else it seems) that the whole issues of witches is problematic. I don’t even really like the use of magic much; too much like Charmed for my tastes, although the have dabbled in it all the way back at the beginning. The other thing I am not thrilled with is the way in which the show has put it’s spin on the Mark of Cain and the whole biblical Cain story. I know that the show has always manipulated various aspects of religion and legend to suit it’s own needs (in Supernatural lore vampires aren’t harmed by light etc…), but the manipulation of the Cain legend seemed pretty clumsy. Now it seems like they are trying to retcon the MoC into a ‘key’ that’s held back THE DARKNESS!!!! for all these millennia. If it’s always been a key then why and how did it become a curse for Cain for killing his brother? Why was it the mark of Fratrcide? Why did Cain say that it would force Dean to kill Sam? And why didn’t we really get to see that at all? (not the killing Sam part, but the desire to kill Sam, I never really got the sense that Dean was worried that he might, that he wanted to, that the Mark was manipulating him in that direction….) To me, those two things, the MoC as the mark of Fratricide and it also being a key to hold back THE DARKNESS!!!! don’t go together well. And also like everyone else I am interested in THE DARKNESS!!!! as a concept, but I am more than worried about execution. I mean, can you imagine the idea of THE DARKNESS!!!! in the hands of Ross-Leming/Bruckner? And like AlyCat I really don’t want them to be smarmy businessmen in suits… been there, done that with Leviathan, Angels and even some demons. Actually, I’d like THE DARKNESS!!!! to stay abstract, but wonder if the show has the budget to pull it off. And above all I want all the relevant characters to have some kind of story that makes them crucial to the unfolding story. Pretty much Dean was the only one to participate in the MoC story for the most part (not that it was done particularly well story wise) and Sam, Cas and Crowley were superfluous… floating around with nothing to do (Sam), sidelined or distracted with meaningless and uninteresting storylines that clearly smacked of “biding time because we aren’t ready for you to participate in the main story” (Cas/Claire, Crowley Rowena AND Sam).
You know, that’s a really good question- why do the bad guys always dress in suits? The demons, the angels, the levis. Is that supposed to make them scarier? because it really doesn’t!
Yes, they are PROFESSIONALS 🙂
Not average riff-raff thugs.
If I were a super powerful being who suddenly came to earth, the last thing I’d do is wear business attire. It’d be jeans 24/7, baby. Here’s a question- what do the angels/demons wear on casual Fridays?
I agree with you that the whole concept and execution of the MOC was mishandled and confusing. But even leaving out the biblical version and following the SPN spin on the MOC it was just that: A Mark, a Curse given to Cain by Lucifer. The retcon (as you stated) of something called the MARK of Cain now as the Lock and Key of all Darkness does stretch the original concept beyond its limit. With that said, in order to enjoy the show, I will suspend my concerns, and just accept that the Darkness before God now has been released.
Oops! Double Post :p
And it’s E btw, for those who don’t know I’ve had to change my login name. 😉
Can you add E to boGirle-E????? or E,BoGirlie etc?
I don’t know…. can we edit our login names once we’ve set up the account? I wonder where you do that?
Talk to Nightsky / Alice. Profile settings somehow. 😉
In reply to samandean10
What should they wear – togas? Monks’ habits? Flannel? What’s scarier?
And, BoGirle, Cain didn’t want to kill his brother, he thought he was saving Abel by killing him, thought it was his duty. Mark doesn’t turn a man into a monster, it gives him a fath in his own rightness and false(?) sense of responsibility, like Cain was trying to exterminate all his descendents, to root out some hereditary evil. Cain saw himself as a righteous man worthy to judge manhood and decide its fate. Throughout the season Dean was killing those who had done something bad and so in his opinion deserved to be eradicated as evil doers.
Cain got the mark after he killed his brother and it wasn’t the mark that made Cain kill Abel, that’s true. But it was implied numerous times that it was the Mark’s influence that would drive Dean to kill Sam – supposedly that was the legacy of the Mark, to make the bearer kill one’s brother.
From Executioners Song:
CAIN This may be hard to believe, in light of what I’m about to do to you, but I care about you, Dean. I truly do. But I know I’m doing you a favor. I’m saving you.
DEAN Saving me from what?
CAIN From your [b]fate[/b]. Has it never occurred to you? Have you never mused upon the fact that you’re living my life in reverse? My story began when I killed my brother, and that’s where your story inevitably will end.
They clearly implied that the MoC was about killing your brother, about needing to or seeing reasons to, and also implied that that was where Dean was headed weather he wanted to or not. But then we never saw that journey except for suddenly at the very end of the season (and quite frankly Sam was just one of many people Dean wanted to kill) and then that was more about Charlie than about the Mark. I just don’t think it was planned out very well or executed very well and then the whole key business seems to me like a bad retcon that took away the meaning that they originally ascribed to the Mark and turned it into something else.
E.
[quote]What should they wear – togas? Monks’ habits? Flannel? What’s scarier?[/quote]
Maybe Hello Kitty tee shirts? 🙂 Actually it isn’t that other clothes are scarier (unless it’s skinhead attire), but rather that a suit makes the person seem like a boring businessman. I might cross a street to avoid a group dressed like a motorcycle gang or skinheads, but I wouldn’t think twice about a group of men in suits. I thought Edgar seemed like the scariest Leviathan and he just dressed in regular clothes. Although I guess even in a suit Alastair seemed very menacing.
I can’t see Sam with a femme fatale type, that strikes me more as up Dean’s alley. But I agree, the boy needs to get him some!!! I’ve always wondered if Sam ever partook of Dean’s scams that he ran on the various women they met. I wouldn’t think so because it just doesn’t seem like Sam is comfortable with one night stands, but then again, he’s not a monk. The thing that made me think maybe he had in the past was in Provenance when Dean was trying to pick up the two girls at the bar, Sam asks “So what are we today Dean? Are we rock stars, are we army rangers?” Dean responds that they are talent scouts for a reality tv show or something of that nature. So either Dean just used his brother as part of the scam or Sam participated with the intent of getting some. Nah, see? I couldn’t picture him doing that anymore than falling for a femme fatale. Unless he’s soulless and then no bathroom is safe. 😉
And if The Darkness!!! takes the form of said femme fatale… well, of course it would. An ancient amoral force… yeah, makes sense to me. Pfffft.
It will be very disappointing if that femme fatale is the embodiment of the Darkness. As E said on another thread, they’ve done that to death with Abaddon, Rowena, Lilith, etc. I, too, would prefer an abstract version, although similar to your Vger idea (and boy I haven’t thought about Vger in a looong time) I’d like it if The Darkness sometimes communicated through humans. I’ve mentioned it before, but I’m fixated on the idea of the Darkness speaking through people in a creepy voice, the way Lucifer did through the dead nun. I found that to be really effective.
No Sam’s thing seems to be monsters. Madison, Ruby, Amelia…
Now, now Cheryl. Amelia was a tad prickly at first, but was she really a MONSTER? After all, she did save the dog’s life! 😉
Well ok how about a monstrous story line then….:p
HAH! Amelia WAS a monster wasn’t she? Nag, nag, nag. Sam got lucky nearly dead Don came back.
In reply to BoGirle and samandean
Agree and agree. How often do prophecies come true in SPN? Almost never , and besides, a bad guy has no right ro be a prophet. And yes, let it be voices, signs, fluffy pets with deviant behavior, creepy somethings, not people in military uniforms from the outer space. Or?
Oooohhh!!! Fluffy pets with deviant behavior. I like!!! 😉
Now THAT I totally agree with! In fact, I think monstrous understates it. 🙂
Oops, this was meant to be a reply to you, Cheryl.
Thank you for taking on the task of providing an intelligent, cohesive, encyclopedic article on such a difficult subject. It certainly can be used as a reference. Well done.
I have just a few comments and questions.
[quote]They went so far as to interfere directly in human affairs deliberately to produce genetic offspring that would fit the predetermined parameters of the principal participants: human brothers to play the parts of Michael and Lucifer. Their interference resulted in the births of Dean and Sam Winchester.xxiii [/quote]
I tend to think God had a hand in the births of Sam and Dean too based on the comments of Michael in 5:13 the Song Remains the Same.
Sam and Dean are part of a bloodline spanning back to Cain and Able and it is part of God’s plan.
MICHAEL: You’re my true vessel but not my only one.
DEAN:What is that supposed to mean?
MICHAEL:It’s a bloodline.
DEAN:A bloodline?
MICHAEL:Stretching back to Cain and Abel. It’s in your blood, your father’s blood, your family’s blood.
MICHAEL: But I am going to kill him [Lucifer] because it is right and I have to.
DEAN:Oh, because God says so?
MICHAEL:Yes. From the beginning, he knew this was how it was going to end.
DEAN: And you’re just gonna do whatever God says.
MICHAEL: Yes, because I am a good son.
DEAN: Okay, well, trust me, pal. Take it from someone who knows—that is a dead-end street.
MICHAEL: And you think you know better than my father? One unimportant little man. What makes you think you get to choose?
DEAN:Because I got to believe that I can choose what I do with my unimportant little life.
MICHAEL:You’re wrong. You know how I know?
MICHAEL:
Think of a million random acts of chance that let John and Mary be born, to meet, to fall in love, to have the two of you. Think of the million random choices that you make, and yet how each and every one of them brings you closer to your destiny. Do you know why that is? Because it’s not random. It’s not chance. It’s a plan that is playing itself out perfectly. Free will’s an illusion……..
[quote]Over time, partially on their own and partially through deliberate temptation by demons, monsters, and corrupted angels, humans developed the principles of witchcraft, devising formulas – generally called spells – intended to warp reality to their own purposes irrespective of the designs and intent of God.xx [/quote]
I see how demons are involved but can you give examples of how witchcraft was developed through the temptation by monsters and corrupted angels.