Titles for Supernatural Episodes 12 and 13
We have titles for episodes 10.12 and 10.13
10.12 is About a Boy (the working title) and 10.13 is Halt and Catch Fire.
Here’s the list of titles for the season
Black
Reichenbach
Soul Survivor
Paper Moon
Fan Fiction
Ask Jeeves
Girls, Girls, Girls
Hibbing 911
The Things We Left Behind
The Hunter Games
There’s No Place Like Home
About A Boy (note: not an official release. This came from a script with the note that the title may be changed)
Halt and Catch Fire
Which boy do you think we will be learning about? Someone from the past or maybe a new character? Will we explore the background of someone on the show? We have Rowena, so we could see Crowley’s boyhood, I suppose. What do you think?
As for Halt and Catch Fire, I have no clue. Azazel’s dead, so we shouldn’t have any women burning on ceilings, so what else can you think of? Please share your thoughts in the comments.
Halt and Catch Fire is a show on amc about the early days of personal computer companies (think the 1970s). I think the premise is that a group of people are trying to reverse engineer a personsl computer to produce their own version and compete with another company. The title refers to (if I’m not mistaken) a command that will stop and delete all programs permanently. Basically, it fries everything. (I am sure the more technologically literate of you can explain it better.) Could the title be referring to a game-changing occurrence in the quest to rid Dean of the Mark of Cain? Especially if Tim Omundson is coming back in 10.14.
Halt and Catch Fire – haven’t heard that term in eons; it’s an old assembly language term on certain processor platforms (HCF for short) – it causes a computer’s processor to stop functioning. I think it also used to be referred to as a self destruct sequence.
It looks like Dylan Everett was shown in the promo. He played young Dean in episode 9.07 [i] Bad Boys [/i] written by Adam Glass. Rumor has it that [i] About a Boy [/i] centers around Sam and young Sam is shown in flashbacks.
I don’t know. What paladinteacher and njspnfan wrote makes me, curious, scared and anxious to see the episode. It sounds wacky or dangerous. Can’t decide which it is for now.
SanSummer1, hope the rumors are true on that. If the wee Winchester’s are done well they can be very interesting with back round story. For me they have been from good to great. Holding fingers crossed. 🙂
– Lilah
SanSummer1 I hope that is true and that it really focuses on Sam. If true, I hope they get Colin back to play Sam. He’s been so great in the role.
Hi Lilah. I want to know what age young Sam and Dean would be in the episode. I have always been curious about the time Sam ran off to Flasgstaff etc. but I’m also afraid that the writing would mess up the characterizations. Sometimes it’s best to leave parts of the characters’ history ambiguous so everyone can draw their own conclusions (like why Sam and Dean had a falling out when Sam went to college.)
percysowner, Dylan Everett was born in 1995 and Colin Ford in 1996. Colin Ford was at a recent convention so maybe he will be in the new episode but I’m not sure Dylan and Colin could play the brothers convincingly considering the established age difference between the characters. On the other hand, 9.07 [i] Bad Boys [/i] already played fast and loose with it… And hey, maybe Sam got his growth spurt. 😀
ETA
Okay, so it’s pretty much a given that Dylan Everett will play young Dean in [i] About a Boy[/i].
4.13 [i] After School Special [/i] already showed Sam as a 14-year-old (1997) and in 7.03 [i] The Girl Next Door [/i] young Sam was 15 (1998). So maybe Dylan will play a 16-year-old Dean which means Sam will be 12 in the flashbacks.
Perhaps the episode will show Sam on one of his first hunts?
After the Sam they showed at the end of Bad Boys I am concerned how they would show a young Sam again. And as Colin made that role his own who they would now get to play a young Sam?.
Casting a new actor to play young Sam raises some concerns. I have seen people put gifs of Colin Ford’s scenes from his other acting jobs in the context of [i] Supernatural[/i]. They were so awesome that I wanted to see more in the actual show. Did Adam Glass fall in love with Dylan Everett’s portrayal of Dean so he wanted to write another episode where the actor would appear? However, it wouldn’t be logical if [i] About a Boy [/i] was Sam-centric but the actor playing young Dean would have in a way determined young Sam’s age in the story.
But Sam is SEVEN years young than Dean? Didn’t you know? If Dean is 16 in AAB, then Sam will be 9 like he was in BB.
ARGH!!! I don’t trust any of these writers – Carver included – w/Sam in the past or the present. I hope it is a Dean-centric episode b/c maybe then Sam won’t be screwed over in some way!
I used to love learning more about the characters’ childhood so it’s a shame that my first reaction upon hearing the rumor that [i] About a Boy [/i] is Sam-centric was that maybe it would be better if the episode was Dean-centric after all. There needs to be Sam-centric episodes but I’m not confident that writers are able to tell a story about Sam’s past in a manner that won’t make the character look bad.
I know, right? But how could you not worry after the travesty that was Bad Boys? Ugh . . . . I need to go back to lurking but just the mention of BB makes my blood boil! E listed all the reasons I despised that episode!
Double post.
Always thought there were 4 years between the brothers. Dean was 4 when Sam was 6 months old. It didn’t work in afterschool special but all the other episodes show it aprox 4 years.
Hi Debbab,
Dean’s birthday is Jan 24th 1979; Sam’s is May 2, 1983 there is 4 years 4 months between them. When Mary was killed and Dean carried Sam out of the burning house he was a few months shy of 5.
What lala2 is referring to though is a comment made by Adam Glass on twitter about Sam being about 9 when Dean was supposedly 16. All this circled around his episode Bad Boys in which Dean was stated to be 16 years old in the episode and the child actor they hired to play Sam didn’t look a day over 8. When asked about the seemingly incorrect age difference Adam Glass pretty much showed that he had no idea how many years separated the boys nor when Sam found out about hunting the hunting life his family was leading (as outlined in A Very Supernatural Christmas) nor the fact that child Sam would never has been so blasé about Dean’s disappearance. Adam Glass was under the impression that Sam was ignorant of the hunting life when he wrote his episode. Well, when Dean was 16 Sam would have been 12 and hunting for the past four years of his life. Its just more evidence that the writers don’t know the shows history and in particular Sam’s history and it caused quite an uproar on the boards here when the episode aired.
if i remember correctly, Dean’s age in the script was 14 but at some point (during rewrite or production?) was changed to 16, because the flashbacks occurred in 1995. However, they never bothered to address the glaring age disparity at the end of the episode when an 8-9 year old Sam was shown in the back seat of the Impala playing with a toy plane.
As far as canon inconsistencies go, this one didn’t upset me too much but it is representative of a careless and sloppy attitude about such matters since Season 8. We found out in the S3 Christmas episode that Sam found out about hunting/monsters after reading John’s journal right around Christmas 1991.
As far as the episode go, I haven’t seen any episode descriptions so I won’t speculate about it; however, in the mid-season finale promo, there was a brief shot of the actor that now plays young Dean Winchester, so that would put Dean’s age at around 16-17, and Sam’s age anywhere between 4 and 15 :D:D:D
Hi njspnfan,
You are right, they did change Dean’s age from 14 to 16 during filming because they thought the actor seemed a bit old for 14. And yes, they completely forgot about Sam when they did this. However… no matter Dean’s age, 14 or 16, the Sam characterization was still way off, the wrong age and devoid of any previous characterization from past episodes. Adam Glasses comment on twitter of Sam being only 9 and not knowledgeable about hunting further fanned the flames because it’s the wrong age for Sam regardless of Dean being 14 or 16 and Sam knew about hunting at 8. It just made AG look clueless about his own show.
My issues with this episode, aside from the obvious, were because it unbalanced a fundamental aspect of the show; namely that Dean was the supportive, dedicated, loyal older brother who loved hunting and sided with his father and Sam was the rebel who wanted to go his own way. This episode destroyed that aspect. It throws into chaos the entire basis of the show, the fundamental conflict the kicked off the show; one brother supporting hunting and loving the life, and the other brother wanting safe. They basically took Sam’s character traits and gave them to Dean without even considering what they were doing. So, Dean secretly wanted normal huh? Secretly hated his father and the life they were leading did he? So much so that he actually considered staying with Sonny? Well, then why was he so against Sam all those years then? You’d think he would have supported Sam’s choices if that was the case, but no, we get this change in canon and then nothing about how that change alters the fundamental relationship between Sam and Dean. So, now I can only conclude that Dean was petty and jealous and decided that if he couldn’t have normal then San wasn’t getting it either. What really galls me though is that I am sure I am putting WAY more thought into it than either the writer or the show runner ever did.
And not only did he look no more than 8-years old, he behaved like a SIX-YEAR old!! ARGH!!
I was being sarcastic.
After the disastrous way Sam was portrayed in BB, people confronted the writer on Twitter. He remarked that Sam was behaving like any 9-year old would. From what I heard, people reminded the writer that there is a FOUR year difference btw Sam and Dean, not SEVEN years. If Dean was 16, then Sam was 11-12, depending on the month.
In any event, that horrendous episode would have worked better if Dean had been 14, not 16.
And if anyone cared at all about getting the characterization correct then Sam should have been no more than 7 during BB which means Dean should have been 11 not 14, because Sam at 8 KNEW about hunting and would never have reacted to Dean being “missing” for two months by sitting around in the impala with his airplane without a care in the world. Actually Sam would never have responded the way he was shown at any age in any circumstance had Dean been missing. The whole thing is so careless it’s infuriating. Not to mention the fact that it totally screwed with fundamental canon. 🙁
I’d like About A Boy to actually BE about Sam for a change. I’d like for Dean to learn something he didn’t know about Sam for once….like why he’s afraid of clowns, like how it was for Sam at Stanford thinking his family had disowned him, like how it was for Sam to be left alone all the time as a teenager. I’d like Sam to be shown in a positive light, sacrificing something for Dean just once. The entirely of Caver’s three year plan has been all about Dean, Dean and more Dean. Now we have Claire wanting revenge against Dean, because Dean needs even more plot and focus than he already has. I’d like to see Sam do or say SOMETHING this season even if it’s only in one episode.
I too would love a Sam centered episode with Dean learning something about Sam. However, I’m painfully aware that the last time he learned something about Sam, he decided that it didn’t matter and that he should go kill Sam’s first girlfriend, even though she saved Sam’s life. So I’m wary of what Dean will take from any lesson he learns. Also, there are as many rumors that the episode is actually going to be about young Dean, presumably with Sam learning something about Dean AGAIN. I’m going to wait for more details, before I get too excited about this episode.
I am sick to DEATH only learning something about Dean. It’s all Dean all the time. So, now Dean is the rebel… so now Dean hated John as a kid… so now Dean wanted normal. All they are doing is cannibalizing Sam’s character traits and giving them to Dean in one bad retcon after another. And what does Sam get out of all this? Nothing. Does he get to assimilate any of Dean’s traits? Be a bad ass, a ladies man, a rake? No. He gets to be a bad brother, and incompetent hunter and largely silent, essentially removed from the story. I’ll be amazed if About A Boy is about Sam as a boy too as there is no need for us to learn anything about Sam because he’s not on this show any more. Who he is, what he does and what he thinks doesn’t matter as there is nothing regarding who Sam is in the current storyline.
From what I’m hearing, Jared is not filming much these days if at all so I think we should prepare ourselves for a fairly Sam-free 2nd half of the season. I also agree that there is no point to a Sam-centric episode this year anyway. I’d actually rather they focus on Dean b/c when they focus on Sam, the character gets screwed in some way (i.e., BB, The Purge speech). I don’t feel they know how to write Sam. I also don’t think they understand Sam so they cannot write for him.
If that’s true, and it probably is, I will be very angry. Making Cas and Crowley regulars was partly to give both of the Js time off, but yet again only Jared is considered dispensable. Last year at a convention Jensen mentioned that Jared had 23 days off from shooting and Jensen had 2 and that was during the Sam is possessed storyline, so Sam as a character had even less screentime. This is supposed to be about TWO brothers, not Dean and friends. I’ve never heard anyone say anything bad about Jared, so I have trouble believing that they are writing less for him because of something Jared has done, they just don’t seem to care about Sam at ALL.
I’m sorry but if the guy who wrote BB – the worst episode of Supernatural ever IMO – is also penning this episode, then I do NOT want this to be a Sam-centric episode. The Sam he gave us in BB was dull-witted, slow, unobservant, and completely clueless – both in the past AND the present. That writer showed us how he views Sam so I would not be excited to see him focus on Sam in an episode.
Crap, Adam Glass wrote About a Boy? Well that’s just great. I loathed Bad Boys; it was a retcon nightmare and painted both brothers in a horrible, unflattering light….not to mention vilifying John for absolutely NO reason and trashing established canon by changing the fundamental conflict upon which the show was based. It’s number 2 on my list of most destructive episodes, right after Taxi Driver. Glass will have Sam off in a corner playing with an airplane while Dean saves the world, if he even remembers that Sam is even there. Ugh. Here’s my theory; I think Jared is only filming because Jensen still wants to do the show. I think he checked out a long time ago and is only there out of loyalty to Jensen and the crew. There’s no other explanation for what we are seeing. Both the J’s say they fight for the integrity of their characters, but that can’t be true because the Sam character is a joke, a shell, impotent, unimportant and uninvolved. On some level Jared must not care any more, or he’s given up. It wouldn’t surprise me at all.
[quote] Here’s my theory; I think Jared is only filming because Jensen still wants to do the show. I think he checked out a long time ago and is only there out of loyalty to Jensen and the crew. There’s no other explanation for what we are seeing. Both the J’s say they fight for the integrity of their characters, but that can’t be true because the Sam character is a joke, a shell, impotent, unimportant and uninvolved. On some level Jared must not care any more, or he’s given up. It wouldn’t surprise me at all. [/quote]
Maybe Jared has become somewhat disillusioned because of how some of the storylines were handled. It seems that Jared had to defend the character he is playing even though Sam had been tricked into being possessed by an angel.
Jared was really excited at the start of season nine but he was basically going to play a different character. He was excited about demon Dean but maybe Jensen getting the opportunity to play a different version of Dean had a lot to do with it.
Before season ten started, Jared was outspoken about wanting Sam to be the one to save Dean. However, it’s debatable whether Sam cured Dean. It seems that Jared wanted Sam to be an all-out hunter trying to find Dean but the storyline was short-lived. I wonder what Jared thought about Carver et al. trying to get the audience to ask “Who is the true monster?” when Dean was a demon and Sam was human.
E, you know, I am not sure who is writing this episode. I just wanted to point out that IF he is one writing AAB, I am not interested for all the reasons you so eloquently stated!
I think Jared is tired of working the long hours so any time off is fine w/him. It upset me in the beginning, but if the writers are too stupid to use him, then he should take advantage of the time off he gets. He can just come to work every so often and still earn a big paycheck. That’s cool for him!
Ah…. duly noted. The episode won’t fare much better if it’s by Ross-Leming/Bruckner either. And if it’s by Robbie Thompson it will be all about Dean anyway cause RT only writes for Dean. It MIGHT have a chance if Robert Berhens wrote it or maybe even Jenny Klein… although I haven’t seen much evidence that either of them understand Sam either.
[b] 2.03 Bloodlust [/b]
[i] Dean: … So. I pick up this crossbow. And I hit that ugly sucker with a silver-tipped arrow right in his heart. Sammy’s waiting in the car, and uh, me and my dad take the thing into the woods, burn it to a crisp. I’m sitting there and looking into the fire, and I’m thinking to myself, I’m sixteen years old. Most kids my age are worried about pimples, prom dates. I’m seeing things that they’ll never even know. Never even dream of. So right then, I just sort of –
Gordon: Embraced the life?
Dean: Yeah.
Gordon: Yeah.
Dean: Yeah. How’d you get started? [/i]
[b] 4.13 After School Special [/b]
[i] Mr. Wyatt: So you and your family killed a werewolf last summer, huh? Why would you write something like this, Sam? [/i]
[b] 9.07 Bad Boys [/b]
[i] Sonny (noting the marks with concern): Deputy do that? (Young Dean scoffs and shakes his head.) What, your old man? (Young Dean shakes his head no.) Well, then, how’d you get it?
Young Dean (turning back to Sonny, somewhat defiantly): Werewolf. [/i]
Are they referring to the same hunt? If so, it seems that that particular hunt was a very important one in the brothers’ past. Maybe [i] About a Boy [/i] deals with things that led to young Sam wanting to get out of the family business more than anything.
Hi E, I don’t believe for one second that Jared has “checked out”. By all accounts both guys still love doing the show. After 10 years do they have issues occasionally about some things, writing sometimes, other things? Absolutely, seems only natural, but they have shown a great ability to be professional and appreciative of what they have, both of them. It is a popular show with a loyal following and they seem to love their co-workers. I think when one of those guys finally reaches the “checking out” point they both will. Neither one will continue without the other IMO.
I don’t now Leah… I can come up with no other explanation as to why the writing for Sam is…. not just bad these days, but pretty much non-existent. If it was me and a character I was playing I’d be having a fit right now and my agent would be all OVER the writers. But I don’t see Jared doing much about it, and these things tend to leak out as it did with Jensen’s concerns re: the 200th episode. Jensen still seems to be fighting for quality (or at the very least against destiel) but my speculation is that Jared has given up and is just riding out his contract. When I think of all the shows on television today who seemingly manage 6,7, 8 or even a 9 person cast and juggle successfully all of those intertwined story lines, I look at Supernatural and feel that TPTB, the big brass (producers etc) should just do a clean sweep of all the writers and the show runner and start over; the writing is deplorable by comparison and they can’t even seem to manage two stories at once. Jared is a team player, and essentially seems uncomplaining for the most part (I’ve almost never heard of him complaining, just one time re: the not looking/Amelia story, and he had good reason to complain IMO; it was a deeply flawed decision both dramatically and character wise) and he will continue to be supportive in interviews because that’s the kind of guy he is. But my guess is that he’s just biding his time till he’s out and has stopped fighting for Sam to have anything relevant. I mean, what on earth is he staying for? The quality plotting and stirring exploration of his character? Not hardly. I suppose though, that in the volatile world of acting that a paying job even poorly written is better than unemployment.
I will say that although the character of Sam hasn’t been given much if any exploration in the last few years, however, Jared has been given many chances to play characters who are not Sam or not fully Sam. Over the years he has been given the chance to stretch his action muscles in ways Jensen hasn’t and he seems to enjoy playing non-Sam characters. This is the first time in years where Sam hasn’t played an alternate version of himself. That may be enough for him. He might stay for Jensen’s sake, but I think he is getting more than a comfy job or making his friend happy out of being on Supernatural. He may have given up on fighting for Sam. or he may still believe that Sam’s POV will be shown eventually. Or he may have been promised that he will get to play another character that will give him more chance to play another interesting character.
Just goes to show how little of Sam there is left; he’s so depleted that there’s nothing left of him. No wonder Sam hasn’t got a story line….. they “resolved” all of his issues (they didn’t really, they only think they have, but that’s another issue for another rant ah… er….time) and now there simply isn’t anything left, and the writers are too poor, too out of ideas, too uncreative to come up with anything new for Sam despite the fact that they seemingly can come up with loads of new stuff for Dean…… now Dean gets to fend off a vengeful Claire because he hasn’t got enough to do in the story already. There is simply nothing left for Jared to play and since the writers seem incapable of giving Sam POV or having him interact with other characters he’s been rendered mute. Sam isn’t even interacting with Dean any more, not really, not in any meaningful way that allows him to explore his thoughts or let us know what he’s thinking. Dean has Cas to have the heart to hearts with and Sam just gets to be dismissed from the action and has the majority of his “plot” happen off screen to be referred to by other characters after the fact. It’s just like Carver’s declaration that they were going to explore “in a big way” who is the bigger monster. Hah, that was a joke wasn’t it? That’s Carver’s idea of exploring something in a BIG WAY is it? Having Dean mention it to Sam in the car in two lines of dialog never to be referenced since? Geez, I wonder what Carver’s idea of a subplot is if this was his version of exploring something in a big way. It makes sense though; Carver thought the boys had resolved their differences and were in a “good place” and “on the same page” at the end of season 9. Who is he kidding? “Im proud of us” and “I lied” does not a resolution make.
For a brief moment I did hope that the MOL might be a way to create a new thread of a sl for bookish Sam but it did not turn out that way . Nothing about the brothers relationship could of been reasonable repaired if only one brother had the focus and the grieveous injury to the other brother was pretty much dismissed in a fog of MOC and ‘you were mean to Dean’ and the epic ‘I lied’ in the dreadful finale.
Another rumor about episode 12 is that it’s comedic, Dean is turned into young Dean because of some sort of magic.
I think it sounds pretty unbelievable but I guess it could happen because the writers have used ideas from fan fiction before.
Oh God SanSummer… I hope you heard wrong… I REALLY hope you heard wrong. Ugh! I really, really REALLY don’t want to see a ‘turned back into a child so we can remember the simpler times and pull on the heart strings’ episode ever….never, ever. Do the writers have a check list somewhere of the worst TV tropes in history? You know, like the evil twin trope? It seems like they are going through the top 10. ‘Turned back into a child’ is like number 4 on that list. All that’s left now is to have either Sam or Dean get pregnant! Something original please, writers…. thank you.
My first reaction was that the rumor is completely made-up. But de-aging would be a way for Dylan Everett to be in the episode without having to cast someone new as young Sam.
I didn’t like that idea either, E. It’s not that I’m against those tropes unequivocally, there is a reason why they are so popular, but it just feels like the writers should have something else going on. Maybe Edlund could have pulled it off.
I heard this rumor too but it is possible we both got it from the same source (who said very firmly that it was a rumor).
I think they could do a tropes episode – like Changing Channels – and get it all out of their (the writers) system. Dean could be de-aged like the story suggests, they could have Sam with a really good evil-twin mustache and black spiky beard (ETA: I had this that Sam would be there as both Sam and his evil twin, but it would be funnier if it were just Sam with the bad-guy facial hair and everyone ASSUMING he was the evil-twin). Castiel could end up with a bunch of Amazon women who want to kill and eat men because that is what women do when they get any small amount of power at all (oh wait they already did that one) um … Castiel could become a woman! There you go. They could do it with an episode with Charlie in it and have her turn into a total Mary Sue (so we can see the difference). Crowley could become an angel and have it totally freak him out.
Have all these plots happen briefly and the characters be aware that this is a trope. It might be funny.
Then they could have a big chase through a market, actively destroying vegetable stalls and random panes of glass (being carried around for no particular reason). They could also have wobbly flashback shots with other people wanting to know why the scenery is wobbling – and then being able to actually see the flashback that the other person is having just floating in the air.
Maybe the bad guy in the episode is someone they all know but he keeps disguising himself by putting on glasses and none of them can recognise him?
Someone could do something really stupid for the sake of moving the plot along and everyone asking why on earth they would do something so dumb.
I like this idea, I could go with it.
However Mpreg is not …. really …. just no! …. K?
I dont’ suppose that I am against these tropes in general either…. but these writers are currently botching such really intriguing story lines like the MoL and the MoC and the possessed by an angel story too. They are also taking the best villain they’ve had since Lucifer and are currently emasculating him with Mommy issues that are going nowhere. A cliched tired out old trope like ‘turned into a kid again’ is bound to be poorly handled. Fan Fiction was a pleasant surprise, but more and more its becoming a bright spot in a creatively lacking season.
[quote]but it just feels like the writers should have something else going on[/quote]
You said it! What the hell…. why does Dean need to be turned into a kid again anyway? Hasn’t he got enough to do? He’s got the MoC, his blood lust is taking over again, Demonhood is looming over his head, he’s going to be called on to kill Cain, Claire is after him, Cole is going to show back up again, Charlie is coming back from Oz…. so Dean needs to be turned back into a kid why? The writers have plenty of other stuff to do, maybe they should get on with it?
[quote] why does Dean need to be turned into a kid again anyway?[/quote]So that Sam can understand how difficult it was for Dean..while Sam will be clueless about being an elder brother.At the end Sam will tell Dean about how great Dean is and how difficult Dean must have had it.See, it’s because we do not know enough about Dean.
I hope not I have had enough of that to last me a lifetime Bad Boys from last season still makes me cringe. A oddball episode I could live with but not another Sam this is Dean and remember etc.
That’s my big fear as well. That we have to learn more about Dean’s endless pain. Also, that Sam was a crappy, no good brother who never paid one once o attention to Dean and therefore has to be repeatedly taught how much Dean sacrificed for him.
I think I’ve hit the I’m easy point. As long as this doesn’t turn into Sam Yet Again! learns an important lesson about Dean that makes him realize “how much Dean has done for him and he must never, ever under any circumstances not sympathize with Dean and must give up his own feelings because Dean is SO, SO wonderful” I’ll count it as a win. I could hope that Dean would learn a lesson about Sam, but I see no evidence that any of the writers care about that at all.
Actually Sam or Dean being pregnant might be kinda interesting! Seriously though, if it is suppose to be humorous it just might be adult Dean trapped in a teenagers body. And Sam having to be his “father” which could be fun but I am not overly pumped over the idea. I wasn’t at all over the Fan Fiction synopsis and was pleasantly surprised. They do seem to be going down the list of tropes though. Maybe there are no fresh ideas after 10 yrs, IDK.
They could write a few episodes that were about a horror / urban legends show possibly ….
I read a Terry Pratchett story the other night which had ideas scarier than anything they have had on SPN for a good while now. Doctor Who is for kids and it is also scarier than this 😀
When was the last time that Sam and Dean heard/read about strange deaths and went in the impala to investigate… had to research and figure out what the monster was and how to kill it and where then also confronted by a conundrum about the monster and themselves… like say… the monster was unaware that they were a monster or that the monster was essentially a good person and was fighting their monster nature and asked for mercy? WHen was the lat time that the monsters Sam and Dean were hunting reflected on aspects of their relationship and the spoke about that? When was the last time they did this and we had a good scare to boot? It’s been ages.:(
DemonDean’s karaoke was pretty terrifying ….
Ok but seriously …. last actually attempting to be frightening thingy on the show … A4 maybe? Abbadon on her first appearance? The really nasty ghost in Season 7 in the house full of ghosts?
Supernatural never brings the spooky any more. I miss that.
me too…..:(
The Japanese drunk ghost was kind of scary, but too much other silliness in the episode kinda ruined that part of it. Was that season 7?
Eilf, I agree. The scary seems to have left the building a good bit ago. Even the “big bads” haven’t been scary for awhile let alone the monsters of the week! Vamps and werewolves and shapeshifters, oh my! Been to those wells way too many times.:)
See now a haunted well that you can go once too often to! That could be scary!
Wells are scary.
Wells with tentacles …. haunted wells …. darkness that attacks you … actually scary insects …. water that is flammable (that last one would give Sam chance to ‘Scully’ the story by suggesting it is caused by fracking and Dean can make jokes about fracking – the thing writes itself! Very Cthulhu).
Heh! Scary wells that have been visited once too often and that have dried up?! A great idea for a story…it sounds kind of meta! 😉
Maybe the story could be about people who try to draw too often from the well it sucks THEM dry. Sam and Dean investigate and discover thousands of story ideas at the bottom of the well.
In Soviet Russia well draws water from [i]you[/i]
😉
I can’t seem to reply right now Eilf, but…… LOL!! Now there is some good ideas.
Eilf and E, Still can’t reply but :D!! Just for the record I don’t think there is nearly enough tentacles in SPN.
*grin* I think I am not going to go near that one (well, apart from bringing the subject up in the first place :p ). There may be some fanfic out there which covers this sad lack in the SPN canon…
We can come up with good stories between us all I reckon – but the writers say they won’t have anything to do with ideas we come up with (because of legal stuff) – so we just have to sit and wait and see what other stories they come up with surrounding previously solitary creatures they turn in to reformed families with only ONE bad apple (who wants to strangle Sam) and a bunch of good apples who want to reform.
Petition for Sam to be allowed Taser anyone he wants to, half way through each episode, (since he never knows which of the people he is going to meet today are going to want to hit him on the head)! You know, like a preemptive strike.
ETA: I am not sure what a ‘good apple’ would reform into exactly. A better apple?