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S13 - Episode four "The Big Empty”

THE LONG WAY HOME – When multiple patients of grief counselor Mia Vallens (guest star Rukiya Bernard) turn up dead, Sam (Jared Padalecki), Dean (Jensen Ackles) and Jack (Alexander Calvert) investigate the mystery surrounding the murders and, each inadvertently, are forced to deal with unresolved grief of their own. John Badham directed the episode written by Meredith Glynn (#1304). Original airdate 11/2/2017.

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We have heard of the empty in season 11. Does anyone think we might find Castiel here?
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I think as we know about the recent spoilers it is high possibility and Billie the Reaper threatened the boys with it and Castiel killed her.
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Jim Michaels‏ @TheJimMichaels Aug 11
Time to tech survey (scout as we say in the USA) episode 4 with @JohnBadham2 at the helm! #Supernatural #SPNFamily
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PoCoHeritage‏ @PoCoHeritage Aug 16
#Supernatural is filming at the museum tomorrow! Apparently @JensenAckles and @jarpad will be in "Dane County, WI" in an upcoming episode!

PoCoHeritage‏ @PoCoHeritage Aug 16
Update: We are turning into the Madison Police Department for #Supernatural!

PoCoHeritage‏ @PoCoHeritage 13 hours ago
PoCo Heritage Museum and Archives is now "Dane County Correctional Faculty". #Supernatural
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The Game of Nerds‏ @TheGameOfNerds 10 hours ago
To say @Wisconsennach is pumped that #Supernatural ep 4 takes place in her home town is a bit of an understatement... #spn

The Game of Nerds‏ @TheGameOfNerds 11 hours ago
Baby is in the house!! #spn #Supernatural
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Angela Abu-ata‏ @angela_abu_ata 11 hours ago
Setup for #Supernatural Chelsea Ave, Port Coquitlam today @yvrshoots @WhatsFilming.

r/Supernatural‏ @SPNReddit 7 hours ago
Heard they were filming near by today, so I swung by to get a picture. via /r/Supernatural http://ift.tt/2iaSFjt #Supernatural #SPN
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Sarah @ VanCon‏ @SarahJay55 6 hours ago
Lucifer's son, getting in the hot dogs... #supernatural #spoilers #nephilim #jack

Sarah @ VanCon‏ @SarahJay55 7 hours ago
Sam & Dean & Jack #Supernatural #spoilers

jensen ackles.‏ @JAcklesCrew 8 hours ago
New pics of @JensenAckles and @jarpad on the set of supernatural today. (Port Coquitlam, BC) https://www.instagram.com/p/BX6VZcKgfb-/
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VanCityVilla‏ @VanCityVilla 10 hours ago
Supernatural exteriors starting in Port Coquitlam. @WhatsFilming #yvrshoots

VanCityVilla‏ @VanCityVilla 9 hours ago
First time shooting the Supernatural set. Interested to see what I can capture. @WhatsFilming #yvrshoots

VanCityVilla‏ @VanCityVilla 8h8 hours ago
Supernatural Madison Police Department in Port Coquitlam Thursday. @WhatsFilming #yvrshoots

VanCityVilla‏ @VanCityVilla 7 hours ago
Supernatural set in Port Coquitlam is wrapped for the day. Filming only went a couple hours. @WhatsFilming #yvrshoots

VanCityVilla‏ @VanCityVilla 2 hours ago
Supernatural Season 13 Set Photos from Port Coquitlam, BC, Canada. Flickr set: http://bit.ly/2vO4OhC @WhatsFilming #yvrshoots

All photos: Supernatural Set Photos by VanCityVilla
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More casting information from Supernatural Season 13 Spoiler Sheet

Guest stars: Alexander Calvert (Jack), Niall Matter (Buddy)

Other Spoilers/info (newest to oldest):

A scene was filmed at night in a graveyard, possibly a salt and burn, so the MotW may be a ghost or seem to be.
The boys filmed scenes outside the Madison Police location/correctional facility in their fed suits. Jack was present.
A scene was filmed where Jack brings Sam and Dean hot dogs and Dean eats messily while discussing the case.
Part of of the episode will take place in Dane County, WI (x) - Madison specifically (x)
We will see Cas is another realm that’s been discussed but never mentioned, interacting with another ‘newish” character played by a “handsome” actor (most likely Misha himself).
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Lemonade‏ @ConeyforPada Aug 22
Jared came to fans to explain and said his dogs just passed before wrap.

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Didie‏ @Didiie Aug 22
@WhatsFilming a few pictures from yesterday ? #Supernaturalset #spnset #supernatural #SPNFamily
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More casting information from Supernatural Season 13 Spoiler Sheet

Guest stars: Alexander Calvert (Jack), Niall Matter (Buddy)

No Mary or Apocalypse World.
Sam and Dean go talk to a witness and make jack wait in the car.
Sam, Dean and Jack walk up into a house with a sign for “Vallens family therapy” (probably investigating the case, not getting therapy…)
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Press release for episode 4

“The Big Empty” — (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, LV) (HDTV)

THE LONG WAY HOME – When multiple patients of grief counselor Mia Vallens (guest star Rukiya Bernard) turn up dead, Sam (Jared Padalecki), Dean (Jensen Ackles) and Jack (Alexander Calvert) investigate the mystery surrounding the murders and, each inadvertently, are forced to deal with unresolved grief of their own. John Badham directed the episode written by Meredith Glynn (#1304). Original airdate 11/2/2017.
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YVRShoots‏ @yvrshoots Nov 2
Sam & Dean...& Jack on a case on tonight's #Supernatural.
No wonder J2 kept cracking up on set. #SPN
http://hollywoodnorth.buzz/2017/11/tonight-supernaturals-sam-dean-jack-jared-padalecki-jensen-ackles-alexander-calvert-on-a-case.html
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Andrea DeMill‏ @AndreaDeMill Nov 2
#Supernatural 13x4 The Big Empty #onset @jarpad @JensenAckles @Alex8Calvert
More HQ Pics ➡️ https://www.flickr.com/sarahjay55
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thebeejaybee‏ @thebeejaybee Nov 2
Kudos to our amazing crew who took a very long time in the sweltering heat to dress & light the hot dog truck. #supernatural

Didn’t have a good view of this scene but here’s Jack as hotdog gopher @Alex8Calvert #supernatural

And suit ‘n tie Sam to complete the set, looking remarkably cool @jarpad #supernatural

Suit ‘n tie Dean. Did I mention the eleventy billion degrees? Yikes! @JensenAckles #supernatural

Earlier that day, Baby, in Madison, WI, aka Port Coquitlam where it was eleventy billion degrees #supernatural

New show idea – CSI: Port Coquitlam #supernatural

So cool to see stuff we watched on my TV! Love the snowmobile route sign. Nice touch, Show. #supernatural

JohnBadham2 directing Or saying, hey look at all the fans! #supernatural

Friendly crew guy who got to clean up the uck. We agreed ArmourAll wasn’t gonna cut it. He kinda looks like Sir Jorah from GOT #supernatural
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SarahThePearl‏ @SarahThePearl Nov 2
Yay I can finally post the pics from when we found set for this ep! (w/ @jholden23!) Thanks to the awesome crew! #Supernatural
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Rachel‏ @Rio1013 Nov 2
While visiting past locations, we were lucky to stumble upon set for filming of this scene in #TheBigEmpty! #Supernatural #SPNFamily
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Julie Holden‏ @jholden23 Nov 2
Few photos from #Supernatural #TheBigEmpty. Everyone trying not to laugh at #Jensen with that #HotDog #DontLookAtHim
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WFB Supernatural‏ @WinFamBusiness Nov 3

We did it again #SPNFamily! #Supernatural is #2 on Daily @Nielsensocial Chart!
Ratings Details➡
https://thewinchesterfamilybusiness.com/articles/news-173
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Moose Kateer Club‏ @JP_Moosekateers Nov 3

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#Supernatural #TheBigEmpty Filmset pics

*Graciela* http://fb.me/6RsQ2JN0f
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Misha Collins‏ @mishacollins Nov 3
The #Supernatural crew really looks up to me. In fact, they’re even starting to dress like me. Flattering,but creepy. (Pic by Brad Creasser)
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Sabine‏ @wonderhawk_9 Nov 3
#TheBigEmpty #SPN S13E04 behind the scenes shots from set in New West featuring J2 @jarpad and @jensenackles. @jrodackles_ @WhatsFilming
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Scout Villegas‏ @scoutstiel Nov 4
quick ink wash spread of my new bae The Empty last night, still getting the need to do more traditional out of my system

мιлیег G.‏ @Trench_Angel_I Nov 7
Beyond the light
#Castiel #Empty!cas #Supernatural
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cilla?13‏ @cabinboyjackles Nov 3
Oh no I’m crying https://instagram.com/p/BbCav1JlCGa/
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sab‏ @destielgold Nov 2
i feel bad for laughing #Supernatural

Caitlin DCcon‏ @ced1694
Legit Cas in tonight’s episode though @Merecuda @cw_spn @mishacollins #Supernatural #SupernaturalSpoilers
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Just Jared Padalecki‏ @Team_SamW 14 hours ago

Some #BTS pics of @jarpad filming #Supernatural ' The Big Empty' 13x04
Photo Credit : http://flickr.com/photos/eleiaa
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Supernatural Season 13 Episode 4 Review & Reaction | AfterBuzz TV

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Misha Collins‏ @mishacollins Nov 9
It's #Supernatural night! I've been spending my downtime on set experimenting with "craft cloning", and as you can see, it's really going well. Order your microbrewed @mishacollins individually or in a six pack (as shown).

(Photo Credit: Brad Creasser)
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