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I only look mad because I couldn’t get the lid off my beer.
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Can we talk about how, "Winchester" this picture is. You've got Dean, Sam, Bobby, and Castiel in the foreground. And a, presumably dead, person on a spike in the background.
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Supernatural Season 13 coming to Blu-Ray, and DVD September 4, 2018

SPECIAL FEATURES
• Mystery Mash-Up: The Making of Scoobynatural
• Into The Apocalypse: A World Without The Winchesters
• The Winchester Mythology: Rise of the Nephilim
• Kansas – Carry On Wayward Son: Performance at 2017 San Diego Comic-Con
• Supernatural: 2017 Comic-Con Panel
• Audio Commentaries
• Deleted Scenes
• Gag Reel

23 ONE-HOUR EPISODES
1. Lost and Found
2. The Rising Son
3. Patience
4. The Big Empty
5. Advanced Thanatology
6. Tombstone
7. War of the Worlds
8. The Scorpion and the Frog
9. The Bad Place
10. Wayward Sisters
11. Breakdown
12. Various & Sundry Villains
13. Devil's Bargain
14. Good Intentions
15. A Most Holy Man
16. Scoobynatural
17. The Thing
18. Bring 'em Back Alive
19. Funeralia
20. Unfinished Business
21. Beat the Devil
22. Exodus
23. Let the Good Times Roll

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The thirteenth season of Supernatural is also currently available to own on Digital. Digital allows consumers to instantly stream and download all episodes to watch anywhere and anytime on their favorite devices. Digital is available from various retailers including Amazon Prime Video, iTunes, PlayStation, Vudu, Xbox and others. A Digital Copy is also included with the purchase of specially marked Blu-ray discs for redemption and cloud storage.

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Street Date: September 4, 2018
Presented in 16x9 widescreen format
Running Time: Feature: Approx 1012 min /Enhanced Content: Approx 200 min.

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Price: $49.99 SRP
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Audio – English (5.1), Portuguese
Subtitles – ESDH, Chinese, Korean, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Thai

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From The Mary Sue Interview: Supernatural’s Samantha Smith Previews “General Mary Winchester”

We might need something cozy to curl up in after the finale, but like Mary, we’ll need to be brave. While Mary wasn’t so happy with her resurrection in season twelve, Smith believes she overcame that and wants to live and fight on now. Mary is “committed to doing whatever it takes to survive and continue to do good,” says Smith. “While she knows what heaven is, she’s not in any rush to go back.” And, while she might not be in a rush to get back to our world either, sacrifice is what the family does for the greater good. Says Smith: “That’s sort of the Winchester, hunter motto: to you own detriment you will help those that need it.”
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As Supernatural season 13 reaches boiling point, all our major players come back together in the Apocalypse World. Mary Winchester herself, Samantha Smith, shares some thoughts about the Winchester family reunion.

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According to one star, things are going to get even bigger as we head towards the finale. We spoke with Samantha Smith, who’s portrayed Mary Winchester since the show’s pilot, about life in the Apocalypse World, what we can expect to worry about as Sam and Dean make their way across a war zone to find her, and how her character is in no hurry to get back to Heaven – or Earth itself.

We saw a lot of Mary last week and she’ll be featured for the rest of the season as everyone comes together in Apocalypse World. We’ve come back to this pretty intense story of Mary and Jack becoming crucial parts of the human rebellion. After a few breaks from what’s been going on in the other world, all the focus is converging there – either on what’s happening to Mary and Jack there or on the boys trying to get over there to save them, there’s been a few hints from the EPs that when Mary reunites with the boys, which is happening fairly soon — they’ll discover that she perhaps doesn’t really want to be saved. Is that something that is a part of the upcoming story?

For sure, Mary will be reunited with the boys before the end of the season. But what we have to consider is that when Mary is found, she has, I think, given up hope of getting back to the regular world, certainly any time in the near future. And she has become invested in the plight of the people in the new world, and to just abandon them would cause a lot of conflict for her. So, it doesn’t mean that she doesn’t want to be with her sons, but in true hunter fashion, when there are people that need you, it’s very challenging to walk away.

It makes sense — once you know about a problem existing, to say “Well, that’s not my problem” is a pretty difficult thing to do.

Especially if you’ve already been involved in the solution. You’re not just looking at something [from the outside] – Mary is a General in the army, she is part and parcel of the success they’ve been having, of course because of Jack, but also from her experience teaming up with Bobby, and to just abandon everyone would be very hard for her. So, you know — she will have to choose.

Mary has obviously had this arc involving a lot of guilt because of, I suppose, the ruining of the innocence of her sons. She comes back to her life, after being dead…

Right, as one does.

As one does. And her sons are really everything that she didn’t want — not as men, they’re wonderful men — but in terms of saving them from the harshness of her life. And now we have her in the Apocalypse World with Jack, who is a completely pure childlike being who has become a killer and a soldier, and is using his power as a weapon — such a shift from what we saw earlier, when the campt is caught out because he was trying to entertain the little kids. He has had a serious loss of innocence, one that he probably doesn’t perceive very well. What’s that like for Mary to experience with another child?

Well, I don’t think she ever got to experience that with her children. When she came in it was already done. Her disappointment was new, but the boys hd reconciled themselves and loved their life. As far as Jack is concerned, I think the fact that he is a Nephilim, the fact that he already lives in this place of power… it’s slightly different. I think what’s hard for Mary is that she sees the realizations coming and can’t save him from them, and that’s one of those parenting moments that she never got to have with her kids. You can’t protect your kids from life and learning the dark side and experiencing things you wish you could save them from. And on the other hand, she also needs Jack to be who he is. It doesn’t make her any less sad that he is experiencing all of these milestones of loss and regret and reality. But I think the difference is she is not really trying to protect him from them, she’s just trying to hold his hand through it.

We had that moment earlier in the season when Bobby kind of gives her that moment of absolution, where she realizes that despite all her guilt, despite the choice she made, that in general, the world has been better for her decisions.

Right.

And that could extend onto this journey with Jack — experiencing that process as parents do — rather than walking back in and going “Oh my God, my children are cursed!”– experiencing that process of not being able to protect the children.

If anything, it gave her confidence in her choices, and knowing that they are doing the right thing.

And maybe it could alleviate that emotional burden in her relationship with Sam and Dean. But in this world, Jack and Mary have been imprisoned and tortured by Michael… We’re learning more as they become involved with the humans of this world and a little bit more was revealed last week about the circumstances and what they’ve been up to. There’s only a few thousand people around — there’s really, really minimal surviving camps.

It’s been decimated, yeah.

And what the threat seems to be is that Michael still wants to come to this world and do the same. Is there anything you can tease for what the end-of-season conflict might hinge upon?

I think that the most serious problem over the next three episodes is making sure that Michael a) doesn’t kill all of us, and b) doesn’t get to Earth, to our Earth, and both of those things are near-impossible goals. We’re not sure how he would get into our universe but he’s gone to the south-east where apparently the veil between the world is thin, and he’s a very powerful archangel, so he might have a way. But our issue is we’re just a ragtag bunch of ragtag, injured, dirty survivors, and to take on an archangel and his whole army as a whole… We could pick them off little bits at a time — not all the time — yeah, if he got to our planet he would kill everybody. It’s typical for us that we are in a lose-lose, no-hope kind of situation and we’re
going to have to figure it out.

Presuming that time moves in the same way as it does in the boys’ universe – no weird Narnia time jumps when crossing over – the Mary has been living in this place for many, many months.

Yup. I like to say she’s been in the same outfit for nine months.

I’m sure that’s pleasant. It’s going to be an exciting finale. I’m not sure I can begin to predict what will happen with the boys, with Sam and Dean, and what their next evolution might be…

We never can.

But what can we expect from that reunion between Mary and Jack and the boys, aside from what you mentioned about her reluctance to walk away from duty?

As happy as Mary is going to be to see her boys, there is a large part of her that doesn’t want them there. It’s a dangerous world and as long as Michael is still in the alternate universe they’re safe from him. So there’s some chagrin there that they have obviously sacrificed so much to come find her and Jack, but that reunion and everything that follows is… You know, I say every year they bring a finale that we could never see coming, but last year we knew Jack was going to be born. We didn’t know what exact form that would take, or if he would be good or evil, but we knew how it would culminate.

I can pretty much say that this year no one will see any of it coming. The characters and the event and the twists — every episode is so packed with characters and stunts and adventures. Shooting it we were like, out of breath, all of us. And the interpersonal relationships in between the characters, kind of like in real life, when so much is going on you don’t have time to deal with something, you look at someone and say, “We’re just going to shelf this, just for a minute, until we have a moment to actually talk about it.” And I think a lot of that is what’s happening. There’s so much going on, like, “I’m so happy to see you. This is
on fire! We need to go deal with it.” And I think that is a lot of what’s happening.

Your character brought up something in last week’s episode that was very interesting to me, which is for the first time — we have an idea of heaven in Supernatural, and obviously some part of it is corrupted like the angel power struggle — but it’s never been particularly criticized before is what it offers human souls, you know, ‘Oh, we’ll see each other in heaven’. We knew the deal, but it’s never been described by someone long-dead, and Mary says — after experiencing it — that it’s just a projection, you’re not actually reunited with anyone, it’s all just imagination of memories to dwell in. It’s a really interesting concept for a portrayal heaven in general, and we are now seeing the problems the angels are currently having struggling to keep it heaven active and not spill out billions of ghosts on earth. Maybe there is a potential to find a different way for the souls to move on after death, if heaven is not genuinely a positive experience.

They’ve shown before that heaven is basically a bunch of cells — I mean they look like hotel rooms, but everyone’s locked in their own room. So, you’re very isolated, even if you’re imagining. There was an episode where we went to heaven, and Dean’s heaven was his childhood at home with his brother and Mary was there making him sandwiches, so that is a deeper discussion of do you care if it’s real, or if you think it’s real? What is the difference? And if you’re happy, do you care either way? For Mary to say to Kevin “it’s not real, it’s just memories,” he said “I don’t care,” like, “if I think it’s real, that’s good enough for me, because this is torture.” But knowing that, Mary’s not in any rush to get back there. She’s like, ‘I don’t really get to hang out with John and my kids, so what’s the point?’

That’s a very interesting twist on it. I spoke with Richard Speight for last week’s episode and he said that these final episodes have a really deep bench of actors. That yes, a lot of Supernatural finales have been big — but this one is really big in terms of cast members — which you mentioned. Obviously you worked with Osric in the last episode, who you’ve known for many years but not worked with. Is there anyone — you don’t have to tell me who — but is there anyone that you have a scene with that you never have before, that is a really exciting new dynamic?

I’m in scenes with, but I don’t necessarily speak to – there are, for sure. I’m going to be able to send out a video i took, in a couple of weeks, of the room with all the cast chairs in it. It’s unbelievable, just the group of people that was there, and it was so fun to be a part of. More than just being able to work with amazing people that I haven’t been able to work with before, working with everybody at one time was fantastic. The fans are going to really love it. I can’t wait to see it. I know what happens and I’m still excited to see it. You’ll know when you see it, that this who I’m talking about in terms of who I haven’t been able to work with before.

Looking back at Mary’s arc in Season 12, her reintroduction was a huge validation for the character, an undoing the trauma that set off the show — not only onscreen for Sam and Dean, but offscreen undoing the fridging of a woman who’s story was to be killed and drive these men’s stories. Last season had a whole thread of mothers; Mary and her place in the world, and then Kelly. There was a thread of motherhood, and what it meant and could mean. And this season where the boys have been looking after Jack, and Cas has been looking after Jack, and there have been issues with Lucifer wanting Jack to raise as his own — a theme of fatherhood is sort of running through this season. After this time alive in the world for Mary, how does she feel, at the moment, about John? Obviously there is a lot of angst from the boys about what he became — if he was abusive, Toni Bevell saying it was child abuse, which in some flashbacks seen is possibly true — so she comes in initially with this memory of him as a great father, and we never really address how she feels about the truth of what happened after she learns it. Is that something that she ever thinks about, how she feels about John, or what she might say to him if she saw him now?

Well I’ve given a lot of thought to it, and I used to say she would be really angry with him for doing that. But here’s the thing: I realized she never told him that she was a hunter. He found this out after she died. So, she never said to him “Don’t raise my boys as hunters.” He didn’t know, so she couldn’t be angry with him for doing it. She could be disappointed and heartbroken, but not angry. And there is some element of somebody devoting your life to avenging your death that is very romantic. It’s not because he hated her, it’s because he loved her. So, he did the best he could. I think she would be upset that he basically shoved the boys to the side in lieu of his mission, but they obviously turned out amazing, and while her heart would break for the despair they experienced as children, it would all be forgiven because it wasn’t meant to be. He did the best, I think, that he could with the resources at his disposal. I hope for a reunion with Mary and John at some point, because I think it would just be so interesting. So much going on. It would be a heart moment, but also be super loaded with history and lapses in time. We’ll see. I’m hoping.
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Some Mary spoilers from EW!

Supernatural: Samantha Smith promises 'multiple shocks per episode' as season comes to an end

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Mary Winchester has been in and out of Supernatural’s 13th season, mostly because she’s been living in an alternate world for the past nine months. After the season 12 finale saw Lucifer drag her into the Apocalypse World, she’s been fighting to survive against Michael and his angelic soldiers. But now that Mary’s boys have all the ingredients necessary to open the rift, a season apart could finally be coming to an end.

With only three episodes left, EW hopped on the phone with Samantha Smith, who plays Mary, to talk about Mary’s journey and how no one will be able to anticipate what comes next.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: How do you feel Mary’s time in Apocalypse World has affected or changed her?

SAMANTHA SMITH: Starting in season 12, Mary went through about 15 varieties of how she was approaching the world, and every time I, as the person playing her, felt like, “Okay I get it now,” it would evolve. I felt like Mary had finally gotten a grip on things: She had found her place, she had found her equilibrium in her relationship with her kids — we were going to start over with forgiveness for misunderstandings — and then she fell into the alternate universe with Lucifer, and everything had to start over. The survivor in her took over, and I think by the time we found her last episode, she had evolved into General Mary. She was all business, and yet she even said that Jack has become like family. We likened it to he’s the king and she’s the general: He can do whatever he wants, but she tries to advise him. And yet I think she has developed feelings for him as another son. It’s her only attachment in that world, and so for me it became very clear that Mary has to be singular of purpose, and that is surviving and helping the people she has grown to care about to survive, which was a broader version of hunting to save people in our world.

What’s going on with Mary in these final episodes?

Over the next hour and the final two weeks afterward, the boys are trying to find Mary and Jack in this vast world. It’s like trying to find someone in our world — it would take a minute, and they don’t have the benefit of vehicles or the internet or angel radio or any of the stuff they would ordinarily use. At the same time, I think Mary has given up on trying to get back to our world for the time being, and her purpose has become defeating Michael and saving the people there. There are many ways this could go because the danger in Apocalypse World is immediate and fatal. Michael is no slouch, and he doesn’t play.

Does Mary at all feel a sense of wanting revenge on Michael for what he did to her?

That isn’t something that I have registered. I think she would very much like to see him go, but I don’t think that that is her driving force. She would like to see him die on general principle, but I don’t think she’s taking it personally. It’s like being mad at the devil. He’s the devil. He just is, and it’s not personal. I’m sure she’s not fond of him, but her primary goal is to keep everyone else alive and away from the angels.

If she’s in General Mary mode at the moment, how will having her boys in that world affect her?

She doesn’t want her boys in this world — not because she doesn’t want to see them, but because it’s not safe. I think she has reconciled the fact that she will probably never see them again and Jack is now filling that place in her life. It’s fair to say that the boys, their priority is to get us and leave, and it’s possible that having grown so attached to people and felt so responsible for Bobby and all the remaining humans that she’s going to have to make a choice: Does she want to just escape, given the opportunity, or does she feel a responsibility to finish what she started in the Apocalypse World? There is a possibility that there will be a conflict there for her.

How do you feel like the final episodes of this season compare to other Supernatural finales?

I think that this is going to be one of the more interesting endings of a season. In previous seasons we’ve seen it coming to its culmination, and even though you could never guess what exactly is going to happen — no one saw Lucifer and Mary being trapped in Apocalypse World, or Castiel dying — but we sort of knew that Jack was going to be born and that he was going to be an issue, and we saw the direction it was going. I don’t think anyone is going to see any of what’s coming in the next three episodes. There are so many surprises and it’s so packed with characters. There’s going to be multiple shocks per episode for everybody.
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Despite his reluctance, Gabriel eventually joins the fight to save Mary and Jack, executive producer Robert Singer says. But when Dean and Sam reunite with their mom, they find that “she, in an odd way, has found a home [in apocalypse world] where she can be a pure fighter. It causes a little bit of tension between her and the boys.” Speaking of family reunions, Lucifer will at last come face-to-face with his son. “He’s very tricky [in] the way he finally has this meeting with Jack, who is a little confused about it,” Singer describes. “It causes a certain amount of consternation for both of them.”

Plus, for the first time, star Jensen Ackles will play a character who is not Dean Winchester. The mystery persona is someone viewers have seen before, “many years ago,” Singer hints, while EP Andrew Dabb predicts that fans will be both “happy and terrified” after the reveal. As for the more soldier-like Cas, “things are going to get bad enough at the end of the season that Sam and Dean are going to want that warrior mentality on their side,” his portrayer Misha Collins shares.
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Fan: Lucifer might care if Michael was on his doorstep. @MarkRPellegrino : remember you said that #SPNNash
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Just because Dean and Sam are trying to get Mary home doesn’t mean she’ll want to go back. “She actually enjoys the fight” in apocalypse world, executive producer Robert Singer says. “That’s something that when she was in our world, when she went off with the British Men of Letters, kind of upset the guys. She, in an odd way, has found a home there where she can be a pure fighter. She doesn’t think that the boys are coming. How would they get there? So she’s pretty entrenched in that world. When they do show up, it causes a little bit of tension between her and the boys.”
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If you all liked the fight scenes in last night's #Supernatural, you're REALLY going to love what's coming up in the rest of the season...!
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Supernatural: Jack's First Meeting with Lucifer Will Be Intense from TV Guide! (video)

For those who have been dying to see Jack (Alexander Calvert) come face-to-face with Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino) on Supernatural, you're finally going to get your wish. The young nephilim is going to meet his father at long last! Although we don't know when the big meeting will take place this season, we do know that first encounter will come with a lot of emotional baggage.

Despite forging a strong bond with Castiel (Misha Collins) and the Winchesters (Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles), meeting the former King of Hell is something that has weighed on Jack's mind over the course of the season. After all, he's still figuring out who he is, and a heart-to-heart with dear old dad could help Jack clear up a few things.

But while Jack has been curious about Lucifer, the Devil himself hasn't put much thought into learning more about Jack... until now. "The desire to see his son is something he's pushed off for a while. I think it kinda scared him, honestly," executive producer Andrew Dabb explains. "So when they finally come together, it means something to him."

As emotional as their first meeting might be, Jack will also be faced with the reality that he may have more in common with his father than he thought — something that will prove difficult to accept. "From Jack's point-of-view, he's heard so much about his father. He's never actually seen him. And in Lucifer, he may see parts of himself that he does not necessarily like," adds Dabb.
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Question: Anything on the remaining episodes of Supernatural? —Claire
Ausiello: Executive producer Andrew Dabb promises not one but “two very surprising returns” before Season 13 is over, while EP Robert Singer confirms that “there’ll be an alternate universe” version of a character à la Alt Bobby and Alt Kevin Tran. Adds Singer: “A lot of the end of this season is getting the whole gang back together. Scheduling has been really difficult with everybody because they’re all working actors, but we’ve managed to cram pretty much everybody that the audience loves into this final run of episodes
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Jensen Ackles & Jared Padalecki's FULL Interview On The Talk 04/02/2018

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Some season 13 predictions from Hypable!

‘Supernatural’ season 13: our biggest post-PaleyFest predictions

Dean will become an archangel’s vessel.
The rise of Witch-Apprentice Sam.
The biggest surprise return is yet to come.
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From EW!

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Sam is going to be put through the wringer toward the end of the season — and Jared Padalecki spent many hours in the makeup chair because of it. “Let’s say Sam Winchester goes through trials and tribulations that leave him pretty beat up,” the actor says. “And at the risk of getting fired, that’s as far as I’ll go with it, but it was a long time.”
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Supernatural stars tease the Winchesters' reunion with Gabriel from EW!

Gabriel hasn’t been seen since that episode, but stars Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki have confirmed to EW that the hunters will find out about Gabriel’s resurrection very soon.

“They can’t believe it. They’re thrilled [because] they need his help more than ever,” Padalecki told EW ahead of the CW drama’s PaleyFest panel Tuesday evening. “It’s very funny that we’re kind of harkening back to a lot of season 4, season 5, season 6 mythology and it feels so natural to be going back there, to be doubling back to Gabriel, to be doubling back to Lucifer. I’m just very excited to have Gabriel. He was sort of the last person we expected to have but now that he’s around, we need his help.”

Ackles added: “There’s a shock to it obviously, but given the things and the nature of what they’ve seen over the course of 13 years, there’s not a lot that really truly shocks these guys anymore. They’re a bit like war-torn heroes at this point, and it’s not totally unbelievable for anything to happen anymore. So I think it’s more excitement at the fact that, ‘Hey, we finally have somebody that we need and we can use this person, and now we have an ally that is very beneficial to have.’ So, it’s all about finding the angle.”

Not only will fans see Speight in front of the camera, but the actor also directed an episode in which he appears. “He directed and acted in the same episode, which is pretty cool and I’m sure a mindf— for him,” said Padalecki. “But he killed it, so it was nice.”

In addition to Gabriel’s reunion with the Sam and Dean, you can also expect Castiel (Misha Collins) — who killed the treacherous prophet Donatello in episode 14 — to remain in season 4 soldier mode for the time being. “He’s grown frustrated from the impotence of a sort of PC approach to things or a more measured diplomatic approach to things, and he just wants to go back into fighting mode. So that’s where we’re finding Cas right now,” Collins told EW on the red carpet. “I think for a long time Cas has been trying to do the right thing in a delicate and measured manner, relatively. I think he has found that it’s not working and that there have to be casualties along the way. It’s an interesting sort of turn for the character because it’s also justifiable.”

Looking ahead, executive producer Andrew Dabb also took a moment to tease this season’s finale, which doesn’t sound like it’s being treated as a possible series finale (Supernatural has yet to be renewed for a season 14, although Ackles is confident a renewal will happen). “This year’s finale I think evolves all our characters in a really interesting way,” said Dabb. “With this finale we close some doors, but we also open some interesting doors as well. All of our characters come out of it changed in a pretty big way.”
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“ScoobyNatural” Crossover Premiere: Supernatural Team Talks Animation, Archangels, and Apocalypses from The Mary Sue!

Speaking of Gabriel (Richard Speight Jr.) and the larger season arc, I asked the writers what sort of role we can expect the erstwhile archangel to play for the remainder of the season. Dabb made the assurance that, while some characters come back to Supernatural for one episode then disappear, “that is not the journey we’re taking Gabriel on. He’s he for a while. He’s going to be a big part of our story.” Writer and Co-Executive Producer Brad Buckner teased that “the actual mechanics of how he survived will be revealed in a kinda fun way; just keep in mind that Gabriel was the trickster and always has something up his sleeve.”

Buckner’s writing and producing partner, Eugenie Ross-Leming, hinted that this season is very much about redemption: “Everyone wants to redeem themselves … and Gabriel gets to do that. He’s pretty heroic.”

Does that mean there are others on a redemptive path this season? Maybe Satan? Well … it doesn’t sound like the turning of a new leaf for Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino) is too likely, though according to Dabb, “Lucifer would very much like you to believe that.” We may keep seeing glimpses of good in Lucifer, as Ross-Leming teased, but it may not work out. One person learning some tough truths about the Prince of Darkness is his partner in his heavenly takeover, the angel Anael, a.k.a. sister Jo, played by Danneel Ackles (you may have heard of her husband). She revealed that things aren’t going great for Anael and Lucifer when we next meet them, and life back in heaven is “not going exactly like she thought it would go.”

We’ll see how it works, as Ross-Leming teased that Anael may prove she can turn her back on Lucifer. Someone else who’ll be dealing with their relationship to the devil is his son, Jack (Alexander Calvert), who will finally meet his father in episode 21 and spend some serious quality time with him in the following installment. Calvert revealed, “It’s such a complicated relationship, because he has a desire to truly know his father, but at the same time, he’s so lucky to be found by the Winchesters that he already has a family.”

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Ackles, Padalecki, Collins, and Calvert. (Photo courtesy of the Paley Center.)

Speaking of the Winchesters, after a bit of disagreements in recent episodes, Dean, Sam, and Castiel will come together to fight the good fight as the season enters its final run. According to Collins, “I think the phrase ‘team free will 2.0’ is apt. I think we band together and serve as a little militia in fighting spirit at the end of the season.” That team will include Gabriel, as well as everyone’s favorite witch, Rowena (Ruth Connell), who will continue to be a frenemy to the boys. Dean especially sounds very committed, according to Ackles: “There’s gonna be a moment of a kind of call to arms for him. And he’s gonna make a very difficult decision.” Could this have to do with the recent reveal that Ackles will be playing a character other than Dean soon? We’ll have to see.
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Supernatural's Jensen Ackles Tackles a New Character — and We've Got Clues! from TVLine!

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Before this season of Supernatural is over, Jensen Ackles will be taking on a character other than Dean Winchester — and at the show’s PaleyFest event on Tuesday, TVLine gathered hints that it will be someone familiar to longtime fans.

Over the years, co-star Jared Padalecki has had the opportunity to play Lucifer, and Gadreel inhabiting Sam’s body, while Ackles has only ever portrayed Dean. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that!) “The biggest stretch was Demon Dean, but it was still Dean,” he recently noted to EW.com. However, “that is all going to change soon,” he added. “Something big’s coming.”

And that something big will find Ackles playing someone viewers have seen before, “many years ago,” executive producer Robert Singer told TVLine on the PaleyFest red carpet. Meanwhile, EP Andrew Dabb predicted that fans will be both “happy and terrified” when they find out the identity of the character. Could it be the archangel Michael, for whom Dean was supposed to be the vessel in Season 5? “No comment,” Singer replied.

Whomever the character is, Ackles described the upcoming role switch as daunting and challenging, but also an opportunity he looks forward to tackling. “I’m going to have to do some research, and then I’m going to have to bring it,” he said.
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‘Supernatural’ EPs & Cast On Potential Season 14 Pick Up & What To Expect In The Remaining Episodes from Deadline!

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Season 14 aside, the stars offered some tidbits on what’s to come as the current season wraps May 3.

“Sam is okay,” Padalecki assured fans. “I think Sam has a problem where he focuses on his failures… it has been part of the archetype all along.” He expounded, “we see Sam go to the nth degree this season and really give it all he’s got to try to make the world a better place.”

“Dean was certainly out of sorts in the beginning. There was a lot of loss in his life and he was at a loss. He didn’t quite know which road to take,” said Ackles about his characters lack of motivation. “Luckily he’s not alone and has his brother to pick him up when he’s down…As we get closer to the end of the season we’ll see Dean step up in a big way.”
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Supernatural: Jensen Ackles is finally going to play a character other than Dean from EW!

For the most part, Supernatural stars Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles have had similar experiences on the show. For 13 seasons now, they’ve each played a Winchester brother, and together, Sam and Dean have battled every kind of angel and demon imaginable. They’ve both died. They’ve both come back from the dead. They’ve both lost parents. They’ve both gotten a second chance at having a mom. You get the idea.

But there’s one major difference between Ackles and Padalecki’s experiences playing their characters …

As Ackles tells EW, “Over the years I’ve only ever had to just play Dean, whereas Jared has had to be Lucifer and Gadreel and all these different actual characters other than Sam. Dean never had to do that. He’s only been Dean. The biggest stretch was Demon Dean but it was still Dean, it was just the demon version of himself, which I always love because it makes my job easier — I can just play the character I know,” Ackles says, before adding, “That is all going to change soon. Something big’s coming.”

If you think that sounds ominous, well, welcome to Supernatural.
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Supernatural : Jensen Ackles Is Getting a New Character! from TV Guide!

When you consider that Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki have been playing Sam and Dean Winchester for 13 seasons of Supernatural by now, you kind of have to wonder how they've managed to keep the roles from getting stale after all that time. Padalecki has managed to keep things interesting by playing an assortment of characters other than just Sam over the years, but Ackles has mostly just stuck with Dean — until now, that is.

In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Jensen Ackles revealed that he'll be stepping into the shoes of a new character this season, totally different from Dean Winchester.

"Over the years I've only ever had to just play Dean, whereas Jared has had to be Lucifer and Gadreel and all these different actual characters other than Sam. Dean never had to do that. He's only been Dean. The biggest stretch was Demon Dean but it was still Dean, it was just the demon version of himself, which I always love because it makes my job easier — I can just play the character I know," Ackles said. "That is all going to change soon. Something big's coming."

As far as hints go, "something big" is about as vague as it gets, which leaves us with too many guesses and not a lot of answers.

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There's always a chance that an alternate version of Dean is headed our way, given we've ventured into an alternate dimension this year, but that doesn't seem to fit the bill. Ackles has already played different version of Dean (the time travel episode showed us a post-apocalyptic Dean for example), and this character sounds entirely new.

A shapeshifter also feels like a subpar guess, since Ackles technically got to play one way back in Season 1. The shapeshifting idea does present us with a interesting possibility though, since it's a power Asmodeus (Jeffrey Vincent Parise), a Prince of Hell, possesses, and it looks like he could cross paths with the Winchesters soon.

The biggest question we have to raise from this bit of news is how long will Ackles be playing this new character? We're excited for him to tackle something new and all, but if we have to suffer through an extended arc with no Dean Winchester, we may actually die.
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Paleyfest 2018 schedule and guests

Tuesday, March 20: CW’s Supernatural (6:45 pm):

Scheduled to appear:

Jared Padalecki, “Sam Winchester”
Jensen Ackles, “Dean Winchester”
Misha Collins, “Castiel”
Mark Pellegrino, “Lucifer”
Alexander Calvert, “Jack”
Robert Singer, Executive Producer
Andrew Dabb, Executive Producer
Eugenie Ross-Leming, Executive Producer
Brad Buckner, Executive Producer
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'Supernaturals' Lucky Number 13 And The Future Of The Show from The Odyssey Online!

Lucky number 13 seems to be working out well for the Winchester brothers. During the winter hiatus in December of 2017, it was reported by TVLine that "Supernatural," even in its 13th season, was ranked as The CW's #2 series (behind "The Flash";) and beating out fan favorites like "Riverdale" and the majority of the network's superhero slate.

The CW's ability to be the "only broadcast network to hold steady in the demo year over year" is largely thanks to the longest running genre TV show in the United States remaining as steady as it has.

Also near the end of 2017, Twitter began releasing a variety of stats revolved around popular tweets as well as entertainment. In their list for the 10 TV shows that were tweeted about the most in 2017, "Supernatural" earned the respectable 9th most tweeted series slot for the year. Other series on the list included "Grey's Anatomy," "The Walking Dead," "Stranger Things" and "Game of Thrones" earning the number one slot.

Season 13 has been particularly ambitious, especially with the new fan-driven spinoff attempt, "Wayward Sisters." Showrunner Andrew Dabb, writer Robert Berens and director Phil Sgriccia's backdoor pilot episode -- starring Kim Rhodes, Briana Buckmaster, Kathryn Newton, Yadira Guevara-Prip, Katherine Ramdeen and Clark Backo -- received a strong response on social media and pulled in 1.87 million viewers, "earning a 0.6 rating in the 18-49 demographic," which is a solid launch of The CW's likely new venture.

The ratings continued to climb, with episode 13x11, "Breakdown," bringing in 1.95 million viewers and remaining steady in the 18-49 demographic rating with a 0.6, drawing in "the biggest audience the show has had since" the season 13 premiere. The strong numbers are an impressive sign in the middle of the season, and it also speaks to the content fans are most excited about and what makes them stick around.

The episode was promoted as the Winchester brothers working a disturbing case alongside fan favorite Donna Hanscum (played by Briana Buckmaster), who nailed a darker side to the usually bubbly character. Most importantly, the monster-of-the-week, or MOTW, episode spoke directly to the horror tone that this show was built on (besides our favorite hunting duo, Sam and Dean, at the core) and want to see more of.

Although the series continues to thrive, fans have to wonder how much longer the stars, Jared Padalecki (Sam Winchester) and Jensen Ackles (Dean Winchester), will want to go on. The show has been running since 2005, and the boys have always been invested in the series and love their characters as much as the fans do, meaning the inevitable end, no matter when it comes, will be painful for all involved.

Mark Pedowitz, president of The CW, has been a huge supporter of the series since taking over his role at the network. His support, as well as the recent announcement that he extended his deal with the network to remain the top executive at The CW, bodes well for "Supernatural." In fact, as has become the norm in recent years, Pedowitz once again confirmed that as long as the ratings hold, the continuation of the show is up to Jared and Jensen.

Recently, costar Rob Benedict appeared on episode 10 of actor Greg Grunberg's podcast, "An Actor, a Comedian and a Musician Walk Into a Bar," and talked about how "[Jared and Jensen] wanna go next season and maybe a season after that, too. I mean, they'll keep going."

Greg, who has known Rob for many years after they worked together on the TV series, "Felicity" from 1998-2002, spoke about his relationship with Jared and Jensen saying, "The two guys, the two leads, I mean, you would not be hanging out with these guys if they weren't good guys."

Rob praised his friends, saying: "They're incredible dudes," to which Greg responded that he hears that from everybody. This comes as no surprise to fans, as we've been hearing this from cast, crew and guest stars for years.

Rob: "They're great guys and, you know, if they lived in LA we'd get them on this podcast. One of the reasons I think they're so magical is that they don't live here. They don't shoot here. They've avoided the whole LA thing completely, which is kinda cool, ya know?"

Greg: "Yeah. Wait, where does the show shoot?"

Rob: "Vancouver. And they live in [Austin] Texas, these guys..."

Greg: "...And have you ever flown with them on their private jet?"

Rob: "I have, I have, I have. They're very generous guys, that's the other thing. Like, they don't let you pay for anything when you're with them. They're just amazing, generous, and so it trickles down from them, truly."

Lynn Zubernis' interview with guest star Brendan Taylor confirms that even after all this time, the boys are as invested as ever in the characters, making sure every actor and crew member feels at home and that they help make each episode as good as the last.

Brendan discussed how, while filming 13x11, Jared and Jensen stuck around for his coverage (which is something we often hear about from other guest stars and cast members) in order to make sure he wasn't feeling pressured and allowing him to give his best performance in that comfortable space:

"I think it was both Jared and Jensen...they suggested, do you want to say that? Do you want to go back to the beginning of the scene? And you know, they're both off camera, it's not about them, the coverage is on me...And they're like, we'll go back. And that's the coolest thing about them being at the helm of the show. They're like okay, let's go back, and everyone just drops into line, the cameras move out of the way, it's like whatever needs to happen for the core of the scene."core of the scene."

As Lynn points out, after filming the show for so long, it would be easy for the two leads to not even care "about the show so much, or about the other actors' performances," but as this example (one of many) reveals, Jared and Jensen absolutely do still care and are still invested in the show, the characters, the cast, the crew and each other, working as a team to keep that tone on set thriving that we hear so much about. That, of course, includes always keeping things light while filming.

An exciting announcement was made that the "Supernatural" cast and creators are scheduled to appear at this years PaleyFest in Los Angeles on March 20th for the events' 35th anniversary. The "Supernatural" gang has made two prior appearances at PaleyFest, one in 2006 and another in 2011.

The big number on everyone's mind is 300, which is the episode milestone the show would reach in the 14th season which, as of this writing, has yet to be officially announced. Many fans are speculating the news will be announced at PaleyFest, but many are nervous there could be a possible announcement that the series is finally coming to an end.

Could the 14th season be the last?

Based on what Rob discussed on that podcast, it sounds like there is still hope for the show to go a bit longer than that. Also, as I reported on over a year ago, Jared and Jensen made it clear that 300 was never considered an endgame, but simply their next milestone that both seem eager to reach.

We'll have to wait and see what the future holds for the beloved series, but in the meantime, fans have plenty to look forward to this season still with the return of Rowena and the highly anticipated "Scooby-Doo" crossover episode that just recently finished filming.

Best of all? Danneel Ackles will be making her first, highly anticipated appearance on the show as Sister Jo, a faith healer who grabs the attention of Lucifer in episode 13x13, "Devil's Bargain."
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Interview with @jarpad about Season 13 of #Supernatural in @TheIndulgeMag
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An official statement from Deadline.

One of the sturdiest CW ratings performer — linearly and digitally — has been veteran Supernatural, currently in its 13th season. It’s become a TCA tradition to check on the future prospects of the series, which has repeatedly defied expectations.

Noting that he and his CW team are not ready to announce renewal decisions yet, “next year would be Supernatural‘s 300th episode which is remarkable,” Pedowitz told Deadline. “That show will go on as long as it keeps going, the boys (stars Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles) keep doing it and the ratings keep holding.”

This season, Supernatural is also tasked with introducing a potential spinoff, Wayward Sisters, starring the original series’ standout Kim Rhodes in an episode that airs a week from Thursday.

“I’ve seen it, I like it but the fans determine,” Pedowitz said. While the first attempt at a Supernatural spinoff, Bloodlines, “did not work at all, this one has an opportunity to work,” he said. “Nothing is perfect but the real question is whether fans will go watch it if the boys aren’t in it. I don’t know but it works, the characters work, Kathryn Newton is a real star, the actress who plays Donna (Briana Buckmaster) is hilarious.”
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Hey #Supernatural fans!!!!! Guess who will be returning and joining the cast this season!!??BOOOOM!!! Can’t wait for you all to see this one!! What a way to end the year! #ComingSoon @cw_spn

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Ausiello: Remember how earlier this season Billie the reaper-turned-Death resurrected Dean, telling him that he and his brother Sam are too important to perish? Well, that little nugget “will come back into play this season,” executive producer Andrew Dabb teases.
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Supernatural's Alexander Calvert Has the Greatest Cat Instagram on the Internet

But he had nothing to worry about. The Vancouver native has been widely well-received by fans, capturing their hearts with his character's adorable affinity for nougat and determination to do good with his inexplicable powers, regardless of their nefarious origins. Honestly, it's not hard to fall for Calvert: He's hot, a dancer–he studied musical theatre dance and hip hop until he was encouraged to start acting at the age of 15–and co-owns the best, most regal cat on Instagram:

We spoke with Alex about the explosive midseason finale of Supernatural, his first-ever fan convention, and the Miniature Persian himself, Lord Tyrion.

So Jack has reunited with Sam and Dean, only to be separated again when they utilize Jack's new power. Are we going to be doing a lot of world jumping? Because it seems like Sam and Dean are stuck in dinosaur land, while Jack's with Mary in apocalypse world...

Yea, Jack’s powers are definitely opening up tons of new possibilities for the show, especially the potential for world-jumping, finding new characters, and finding old characters.

Speaking of new characters, this episode introduces Kaia, who we know will be on Supernatural's spinoff Wayward Sisters. Based on your powerful connection with her, do you think we'll see Jack crossing over into that series?

I have no idea what they’re doing with that show [laughs]. I’m at their mercy. I just think that Jack and Kaia had a really interesting relationship and I really enjoyed shooting that stuff with her because they had so many similarities in terms of what they were dealing with and going through, especially with her being unable to control her powers. It was fun to see Jack kind of foster a new relationship and really help guide her along her path.

We learn, once and for all, in this episode that Jack has no feelings towards Lucifer whatsoever–which is good for the boys to know. but how would you characterize his relationships at this point with Sam, Dean, and Castiel?

I mean, what I really like about this episode is we definitely don’t know where Jack fits yet. But the fun part about this season, I think, has been him realizing what the true concept of a family actually is. Not necessarily who you’re real father is or you know say your mother, but in this case the people that really love and care about you become his surrogate family, and it was really nice to have that moment in the episode.

What was it like joining a show that's already been on the air for 13 seasons–especially one with such a strong following?

Pretty daunting. I wanted to be as respectful and delicate as possible, just because people have grown up with these characters, you know? They’ve gone on just this massive journey. So, I just wanted to work well in the machine that already exists. The fan base has been really welcoming and incredible so far, and it’s just nice to be a part of something that people are so passionate about.

Had you watched the show before you were cast?

No. That’s kind of the crazy part. I’m from Vancouver, so I’d see the signs for filming. I mean, I’ve been seeing the signs since I was 15. So, it was kind of strange to finally be a part of the show that I feel like I’ve grown up around and seen people go through around me.

What was it like when you met your co-star Misha Collins and you realized you look exactly like him?

I didn’t really clue into it at first. I was just like 'Oh like it’s great, I get to meet Misha! I finally get to meet Castiel.' But then, people started sending me these photos at various points in me and Misha’s life, where our faces are looking the exact same direction. We have a similar expression on our faces. Initially, I didn’t really know what to think, but then I’ve seen so many of these photos now that I’m kind of blown away. I actually can’t believe it myself.

It’s weird. Like it’s tripping me out, you know?
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SUPERNATURAL: Behind the Scenes With Set Design and the Impala from the TVAddict!

Rest of the article you can read there where they talk about the bunker and Impala also.

For the last several years we’ve had an opportunity to visit the SUPERNATURAL set in Vancouver and a highlight of our trip is a chance to take a behind the scenes tour with various members of the production crew to learn more about the design of the sets and how they take care of the signature Impala.

This year we had an opportunity to tour the Men of Letters bunker, the alternate dimension’s burned-out church where Michael seems to enjoy torturing people, and a motel that will appear in an upcoming episode of the show. In addition, we saw the Impala and learned more about how the show uses movie magic to tricks fans into thinking the Winchester brothers are driving down various streets.

During our interviews with the crew, we gleaned some behind the scenes tidbits to share with fans. Browse through our photos above to learn them all.

According to Production Designer Jerry Wanek, this church in the alternate dimension was originally “written as just another concrete bunker and I hate that, so it gives me the sort of creative license to take the story a little further and that’s what we did.” This church will appear in several episodes, having first been seen in episode 13.07 when Michael was torturing Lucifer. We’ve seen from a preview for the midseason finale that Mary will also be held here.

Wanek enjoyed creating a large church steeple where the Iron Maiden took the place of a bell, because “there’s some swing to it”. It was originally just written as a “cage off the ground and this is what we came up with.” The size of the Iron Maiden device is also “adjustable”, depending on the size of the actor inside it.

There’s a lot of space between the boards of the various walls in the church, but when you add in atmosphere and light you get really cool shafts of light, called “God rays”. All of this was purposeful when the crew was designing the place.

This shot shows the level of detail that goes into the sets, from the coloring of the alter to burning the wax of the candles to make the scenes look more authentic.

Wanek explained that they’re lucky on SUPERNATURAL because the production crew has a lot of freedom “to take [the sets] to a place where we think is appropriate, as opposed to just being dictated [to].”

A beautiful fresco painting near the altar of the church.

A door on the inside of the church leads to a room off to the side of the building.

These spikes are seen sticking out of the ground in the alternate dimension that Mary and Lucifer were trapped in at the beginning of season 13. Wanek told us that they were modeled to look like the a familiar weapon on the show. “They’re the same exact shape and dimension as an angel blade.” Some of the ones on location were even 20 feet tall.

The Del Ray Motel set will appear in an upcoming episode of SUPERNATURAL.

For this motel room they wanted to do a design that was “mid-century. Then we started looking for things [that fit the motif].” They started looking through wallpaper books and settled on the paper here, and settled on a graphic print for the floors.

Wanek had built well over 150 motel sets in the earlier years of the show before the bunker was introduced because SUPERNATURAL was really a “road show”.

They make the rooms a bit bigger than normal motel rooms to allow for the cameras and also for fight sequences.

A cool retro looking clock is on the wall of the Del Ray Motel.

In the early years of the show, Warner Brothers had the idea to make a deal with Motel 6 and to feature those rooms in the show, but Wanek wasn’t a fan of that idea. He believed that the only way to show the region where the brothers were traveling to was to “put something in the motel that shows [the fans] you’re in, you know, Louisiana. [Or] you’re in Arizona.”

Jerry Wanek peeks at us from behind the motel screen.
The show used to do a lot of iconic and funny looking screens in their motel rooms, particularly in the early years. The screens are also “a great way to introduce something because you can shoot through them. So it’s a great way to establish what the room looks like.”
Several of the more distinctive screens have made their way to the art department’s offices where they are used as dividers between the desks.

These cells in Asmodeus’ lair are where Lucifer and Castiel are currently being held captive.

Part of the hallway outside Asmodeus’ lair.
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‘Supernatural’ Casts Danneel Ackles in Recurring Role (EXCLUSIVE) from Variety

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Danneel Ackles is set to guest star in “Supernatural,” Variety has learned exclusively.

Ackles is set to recur as “Sister Jo” in the later part of the 13th season of the CW’s hit demon hunting drama. Sister Jo is described as “a well-known faith healer whose good works attract the attention of someone very, very bad: Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino).” The question she will have to face is whether Lucifer will kill her — or if he has bigger plans for her.

Her first appearance will be in episode 13, “Devil’s Bargain.”

Ackles joins a list of guest stars for this record season that include Christian Keyes, Jeffrey Vincent Parise, Keith Szarabajka, Yadira Guevara-Prip and Clark Backo, as well as the returns of David Haydn-Jones, Osric Chau, Lorette Devine, Briana Buckmaster, Kathryn Newton, Katherine Ramdeen and Kim Rhodes.

Ackles, who is married to “Supernatural” star Jensen Ackles is best known for starring in the cult classic “Harold & Kumar” film franchise, in addition to her role as Rachel Gatina on the long-running WB series “One Tree Hill.”

She previously appeared with her husband in the 2007 independent film “Ten Inch Hero,” and in 2014 she worked with “Supernatural” star Misha Collins in his digital short “TSA America: Suspicious Bulges.”

Ackles is repped by The Gersh Agency and Untitled Entertainment.
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Jensen Ackles News‏ @acklesupdates Oct 18
Jensen and Jared filming Supernatural' season 13!
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Ask Ausiello: Spoilers on Good Doctor, Roseanne, Chicago Fire, Supernatural, Walking Dead, The Flash and More from TVLine!

Question: Any scoop/spoilers regarding Jack Kline on Supernatural? Alexander Calvert is doing a smashing job in the role. —Karen C

Ausiello: Although Jack is focusing on himself after this week’s episode, he hasn’t forgotten about his pals the Winchesters and their quest to free Mary from the apocalypse world. “You’re definitely going to see Jack try [to open up the portal],” Calvert shares. “He knows, ultimately, that the thing that’s driving Sam and Dean is their mother, and the way that Jack can be of service to them is to open that up and help Sam and Dean complete their journey.”
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.@JerryWanek points out that the spikes in the ground in the alternate world are actually giant angel blades #Supernatural
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Supernatural Set 2017 - Jared Padalecki, Jensen Ackles & Alexander Calvert

SUPERNATURAL: Jared Padalecki, Jensen Ackles & Alexander Calvert on the Upcoming Reunion and the Cowboy Episode from The TV Addict

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Castiel reunited with the Winchester brothers on this week’s SUPERNATURAL and the angel will be delving into a case with Sam and Dean in the next episode. He’ll also get a chance to meet Jack for the first time since his birth. Once that meeting happens, the group will head to Texas to investigate a case and fulfill Dean’s obsession with everything cowboy related.

During a visit to the set of SUPERNATURAL in Vancouver, we spoke to Jared Padalecki (Sam Winchester), Jensen Ackles (Dean Winchester) and Alex Calvert (Jack) about the reunion with Cas and what’s to come in the next episode.

How Important Are the Winchesters? Before moving on to the next episode, we noticed that Billie brought Dean back from the dead this week because, according to her, Sam and Dean are “important”. We’ve always known that the Winchesters are crucial to the fate of the universe, but does Billie know something now that we don’t? Jared and Jensen aren’t yet sure. “We haven’t really found out why just yet,” Jared explained. “We know we’re important for some reason, but true to SUPERNATURAL form I think it will be a surprise to Sam and Dean and Jared and Jensen. I think the brothers have always felt like they have a higher cause and a greater calling, so I think they’re looking forward to figuring out exactly what it means.”

Loss of Faith. The meeting with Billie also revealed that Dean feels a bit loss after the recent deaths of his mother and friend. Cas’ return, however, will be considered a bit of a “win”, according to Jensen. “At the end of last season and the beginning of this season we do see that Dean is just of like given up, so to speak. So the return of Cas has ignited that fire again. He’s got some hope and motivation to dig a little deeper and see what we can figure out. Because if he was written off and Mom was written off, maybe there’s a few other people that shouldn’t have been written off. And we figure that out as the series continues to move on.”

Skeptical Sam. While Dean is just happy to have his buddy back and doesn’t seem to question the reason beyond Cas’ return going forward, Sam is a bit more skeptical, according to Jared. “I think Sam is really looking to find out what happened and how did it happened. Also, not just because of Sam’s intellectual curiosity, but Sam still wants mom back and, heck, if we can start calling out who we want back, I’m sure there are a lot of people Sam wouldn’t mind to bring back. So I think Dean is so relieved to have that win he’s looking for, and to have our buddy back. Sam’s like ‘OK, it is great, I agree, but, you know, to quote Dean — the other shoe is probably going to drop. So what else can this person do?'”

Jack and Castiel Meet. Castiel spent the later part of season 12 protecting Jack before his birth because he believed that the boy could help the world. Jack “adopted” Castiel as his surrogate father and was devastated when he learned that Cas was gone at the beginning of season 13. Now the two of them will finally come face-to-face. We’ll see that Jack and Cas are “close because they think it’s like meeting the only other alien,” Alexander said. “You’re an alien on the Earth and you thought you were alone, but then suddenly there’s someone who’s actually like you. I feel like they have that unique bond.” This moment will mean “everything to [Jack]. I don’t want to say too much cause I think it’s all kind of there when we see it, but I mean, a huge moment for Jack.”

Dean’s Love of Westerns. We saw that Dean is obsessed with Westerns all the way back in the season 6 episode of “Frontierland”, but he’ll get a chance to revisit that in the upcoming episode “Tombstone”. “I don’t think it’s any shock that I’ve always been kind of a fan of the iconic symbol of a cowboy and everything that comes along with that,” Jensen said. “A fan of western movies and everything. So when I read that Dean gets all excited about it and decides to play the part up, so to speak, I of course got excited as well. I think there’s a nice slow-mo montage of some snakeskin boots and a hat and the whole bit. But yeah, instead of playing FBI agents we get to play Texas Rangers, which is kind of fun.” Alexander said that the crew was so into this episode that “everyone in the crew dressed up as cowboys for one of the days.”

Watch a portion of our interview with Jared, Jensen and Alexander below (more to come!).



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We know Wayward Sisters is going to be set in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, which shouldn’t come as a surprise seeing as how that’s where Jody Mills lives with Alex (and Claire when she’s home), and where Jody has a job. But that’s not the only reason the spin-off will be localized to that town. “They showed us a really great reason as to why that is happening,” star Kim Rhodes says of the location. “It doesn’t just happen to be in Sioux Falls. There’s definitely a reason.” And what do you want to bet it’s a supernatural reason?
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From Supernatural Season 13 Spoiler sheet

General stuff

Rowena will return in a stand alone episode (x)
Bobby will be back as well (x)
Miriam the Angel will also return. (x)
Kevin will be returning in apocalypse world! (x)
Certain characters will return, but not necessarily in the same bodies - such as Michael.
Misha Collins will be returning for season 13, as a series regular.
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Jeff Mattson sent a behind-the-scenes picture to The Winchester Family Business and he said we could use it in our discussion pages. The picture was taken when they were shooting episode 7 or 8. He captioned it, “Cat Guarding the Portal to Heaven”. Here is the background information.

They did not find out the name of the cat that was guarding the portal to heaven in Ladner Havour Park. Beside the children's play ground shooting location stood a lone house. (maybe for the custodians of the park). They think the cat is theirs. Jeff usually does crew work and occasionally back ground work and he took the picture on a Friday, maybe Oct. 20. The crew camp was in the park like usually when they film in that neighborhood. They have a contract with the park but they were not filming at the park that day. They just had lunch there. Jeff wrote in the end: "So unfortunately there are no spoilers to be had. Just a cat that guard's the portal to heaven."

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Hi Jeff here.

everybody. Just found this very friendly kitty hanging out at the portal to heaven one day when we were filming. Though he may have just liked us cause we had heat lamps. You can see him laying at the foot of a heat lamp there in the photo. I'm pretty sure he belongs to the park's custodians. Their house is directly beside the children's play ground. He was far too friendly and well behaved and well taken care of to be a stray. Its not all that uncommon to set up base camp in someone's lawn and have their cat join us for lunch. And production typically instructs us not to touch the cats, which i'm terrible at following. I really just thought this cat was unique because he lives at the portal to heaven.

Base camp was at the park that day, we weren't actually filming the portal, just filming in Ladner that day. Sorry the story isn't more interesting, and i promise next time we are filming in the park, or even if base camp is just in the park i will endevour to learn the cat's name. I did get to thinking... a story about a cat guarding heaven certainly would be cute don't you think?
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‘Supernatural’s’ Alexander Calvert on Relating to the Winchesters and Parallels Between Castiel and Jack from VARIETY

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Alexander Calvert is new to the world of “Supernatural,” but his character was cemented as integral to the show’s overall mythology from the minute he appeared.

The son of Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino) is half-human and half-angel and has more powers than his father. But while producers of “Supernatural” have pointed out that deep down Jack also carries an ancient wisdom from his heritage, Calvert is focused on portraying the “newborn” nature to the nephilim who is a grown man in stature but a baby when it comes to the awareness of the world. “He’s got a fun optimism,” Calvert says.

In his first episode, Calvert was focused on “getting to enjoy all of the new things he got to experience from a nougat chocolate bar to observing everything for the first time [and] to just notice where the light is.”

Jack claimed Castiel (Misha Collins) as his father, despite being sired by Lucifer, and Calvert can’t deny there have been some parallels in how Jack explores the new world around him to how Castiel did when he first stepped foot on earth in the fourth season of “Supernatural.” “I’m just trying to be truthful about what I think this could be like,” he says of Jack’s exploration.

Jared Padalecki on ‘Supernatural’ Season 13: Sam Wants Redemption for Jack
Without Castiel to guide him, Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) have stepped in. Although Sam is the one actively trying to help Jack, Calvert shares that he thinks his character feels a connection to both brothers equally.

“What’s interesting to me is each episode is looking to who I relate with more. In some episodes I really relate to [Sam] and in others I really relate to Dean,” he says. “I kind of imitate Dean in how he eats and how he drinks a beer, and there’s these little moments where you kind of see yourself in both parents. Jack’s trying to figure himself out while he’s getting to know the only two real figures in his life.”

The Winchesters will continue to be Jack’s main guide in the story, and though they are not perfect, Calvert says Jack is not looking for an alternative at this point. “He has a lot of empathy for Sam and he really relates to Dean as well because he sees how the loss of Dean’s mom has really affected Dean. Sam is pushing forward and hoping for the best, but Dean is really reeling in these few episodes,” Calvert says.

Jack will, however, start to do his own research into who he is to understand why he can do the things he can do (like heal immediately from tattoos and stab wounds alike). “At this point I’m still focused on the very minutiae of getting to know myself,” Calvert says. “Jack is very curious about his own lineage and the world itself. He’s definitely searching on his own as well as going with Dean and Sam.”

Because there are dangerous beings hunting him, Jack will often be taken along on Sam and Dean’s hunts. The third episode, “Patience,” for example, will see Jack having to “test himself and learn his capabilities” quickly in order to help out when the Winchesters are called to help their family friend Missouri (guest star Loretta Devine) protect her granddaughter (guest star Clark Backo) from a wraith (guest star Jon Cor) who is targeting psychics.

But Calvert says it is a slow process for the “big ball of energy” that is Jack to begin to understand, let alone control the power he has. That means the Winchesters aren’t training him to re-open the rift any time soon, but it also means he isn’t letting the power go to his head.

“I think everybody kind of wants to fit in and searches for someone they can relate to, so I don’t think he’ll just get rid of them. I think he has a real desire and quest to be a part of a family, and they’re it for him,” Calvert says.

Of course, the eventual return of Castiel will throw a curveball into that dynamic. “What would it be like to meet the father you never knew? It would be a pretty incredible moment for Jack,” Calvert says, noting Jack hopes Castiel is someone to whom he will be able to relate even more. “It would help his search to figure out who and what he is.”
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Supernatural Preview: Will Dean and Lucifer's Son Find Common Ground? from TVLine

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Supernatural‘s Dean may have more in common with Lucifer’s offspring Jack than the hunter would like to admit, and we’re not talking about both fellas’ penchant for devouring their food.

Although the elder Winchester would like nothing more than to wipe Satan’s spawn off the face of Earth, the two share “the commonality of loss,” notes new series regular Alexander Calvert, who plays Jack. After all, Dean recently lost his mom Mary and his friend Castiel, while Jack never even had the chance to get to know his chosen father Cas before he died. “That’s a big similarity that both Jack and Dean have,” so it’s not just Sam — who once battled his own dark urges — with whom Jack shares some traits, Calvert says.

Supernatural Spoilers“There’s some nice moments coming up where I can see myself in Sam, and then there’s also moments where I see myself in Dean,” the actor shares.

Below, Calvert also previews Jack’s “otherworldly, profound connection” with Castiel, and reveals how stars Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki welcomed him into the show’s ensemble.

TVLINE | You’re coming into the show in Season 13, when the cast has pretty much established their dynamics. I hear Jared and Jensen have been giving you a good ribbing. Did that help you feel like you fit in?
They have a really well-oiled machine. The cast and crew, obviously, are great to work with. The machine works really well. I just want to be effective in that. That being said, I’ve been, definitely, the object of some pranks, and I’ve ruined a couple takes laughing.

TVLINE | Any particularly memorable pranks stand out for you?
If it’s during my coverage, Jared will do anything in his power to try and make me crack up, and he succeeds a lot of the time. I’m like, “The editors are amazing.”

TVLINE | I think they’re used to it, judging by the gag reels from the past 12 seasons.

I did watch the gag reels. I’m like, “OK, I’ll be in good company.” So that’s reassuring.

TVLINE | In the last episode, Dean very bluntly told Jack, “If I’m right, and it comes to killing you, I’ll be the one to do it.” How does Jack handle that, going forward?
I think he’s aware of Dean’s volatility and commitment. Both [of] the Winchesters have seen so much that Dean’s definitely a threat in Jack’s life. But at the same time, Sam and Dean are both his parental figures, so there aren’t many places for him to go. He’s striking a balance between Sam and Dean, Sam being the more compassionate one, and Dean definitely being way more cutthroat.

TVLINE | Jack is quite powerful, but is there a part of him that’s afraid of Dean?
Absolutely. Yeah, for sure. Again, Dean’s seen a lot. With the loss of his mom, the loss of Castiel, he’s really at the end of his rope, I feel like. So as much as Jack has these powers, he’s still a little kid, and having someone [around] like that is quite scary.

TVLINE | As Jack finds out more information about Lucifer, what are his feelings on him?

It’s tough to say, because there’s a recognition that he’s capable of evil and hurting people, which is a kind of a terrible realization. [Laughs] So there’s that. But there’s also hope on the other side of it with his other parental figures in his life, with Sam and Dean, [and] hope for Castiel as well.

TVLINE | Does Jack have any sort of psychic bond or connection to Lucifer? Is that one of his abilities?
Anything’s possible. Not at this point, that I know of. What I do know is that he and Castiel do have an otherworldly, profound connection. Their connection, I think, will transcend worlds, and what’s really cool about this season is the introduction of other worlds.
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Any news on returning characters on this season of Supernatural? — Laura
Well, I’m assuming you heard the Kevin news, but he won’t be the only familiar face. And yet, this next one might not be in the apocalypse world. When talking about season 13’s standalone episodes, co-showrunner Robert Singer reveals that, “You’re going to see the return of Rowena in one of the standalones.” No word yet on what world she’s in or whether it’s even in present day, but just know that you haven’t seen the last of the witch that Lucifer claims he killed.

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Question: Is there anything for Sam fans to be excited for on Supernatural this season? —Maria
Ausiello: EP Brad Buckner says Sam has “some really charming scenes” with Lucifer’s son Jack, who is struggling to gain “full control” of his powers. “Right now, [Jack] is at the mercy of impulse. He senses something or feels something and, wham, a power that he didn’t even know he had emerges. … He’s actually more powerful than Lucifer, and all that stuff is bottled up. He just doesn’t know how to access it on a conscious level.” Enter Sam, who Buckner says is “trying to deal with this kid as a kind of son and give him lessons and slowly give him little exercises to try to control this stuff.”
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'Supernatural': Will Lucifer Make a Deal With the Winchesters to Save Jack?

What’s keeping Lucifer from killing Mama Winchester?
Her sons have something he needs—his son Jack (Alexander Calvert). I have something they need—Mary—and I think that we can make a deal with each other.

Does that mean Lucifer will have to protect Mary, which is against your nature.
He will to great effect. I hope she’s grateful for that that, but I doubt she will be.

Speaking of nature and nurture and gratitude, Sam and Dean—against his natural instincts—are protecting Jack from demons and angels? Will Lucifer be grateful to them?
Well, the story is going to take an interesting turn. There’s a character that appears in the second episode that changes everything. His power and his ambition will throw a kink in everybody’s plans. He could change the relationship dynamics of the entire show!


Supernatural's Mark Pellegrino Teases Lucifer and Mary's 'Old Married Couple' Vibe, 'Contention' With New Michael

“This is horrible. The stepparents are winning, and it’s not fun,” star Mark Pellegrino tells TVLine with a laugh. “I think Lucifer is going to try to remedy this situation as soon as possible.”

But couldn’t you also say that the Winchesters are keeping his child safe while he’s MIA? “This is true,” Pellegrino concedes. “These are all of the paradoxes that Lucifer is faced with in the coming episodes.”


Supernatural: Mark Pellegrino says Lucifer is 'out of his league' in apocalypse world

Lucifer is someone who wanted the apocalypse, but now that he’s in apocalypse world and sees the aftermath of it all, does it affect his viewpoint?

I honestly think that does have a character-altering effect on him. It is one of those epiphany moments, especially when he comes into contact with the architect of that world, who’s Michael. Lucifer has a certain change of heart and character that I think pushes him in a different direction than we’ve seen ever.


What could Alexander Calvert’s promotion mean for ‘Supernatural’?

For starters, even before the fall TV season began, the mere notion of this promotion on a show with a history like Supernatural’s allowed the dedicated viewer to extrapolate a fair amount about how significant this character will be. Apart from an oddity back in in season 3 — introducing Lauren Cohan’s Bela and Katie Cassidy’s Ruby as regulars and promptly killing them, a backlash-heavy structural choice made a decade ago, during the show’s growing period — the rank of Supernatural series regular has been limited to the four men who undeniably dictated the story as its key point-of-view players: naturally, Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles as Sam and Dean Winchester, plus Misha Collins as Castiel and Mark Sheppard as Crowley.

Ackles and Padalecki remain the only truly permanent factor of Supernatural — they’ve both appeared in every single episode, and the show will undoubtedly end the day one of them isn’t able to — and Collins’ promotion came in season 5, after an entire year’s worth of character establishment. Even this wasn’t a done deal – in season 7, he was downgraded to “special guest star” and killed off. His death was, according to many reports, initially intended as permanent, but Castiel was written back in, had his series regular status reinstated by season 9, and has been pulled even more tightly into the Winchester clan ever since.
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‘Supernatural’ Season 13’s Unlikely Alliances and Lucifer as a ‘Fish Out of Water’ from Variety

The CW’s long-running demon hunting drama “Supernatural” first introduced Lucifer in its fifth season, which culminated with the fallen angel entering Sam Winchester’s (Jared Padalecki) vessel, beating his brother Dean (Jensen Ackles) bloody, and jumping back into the pit to return to Hell. But as the years went on, Hell proved not to be strong enough to contain Lucifer and now, in the show’s 13th season, he is back in his most common vessel (Mark Pellegrino) more permanently as a series regular.

“Whatever permanent means in the ‘Supernatural’ realm, it was a pleasant surprise,” Pellegrino tells Variety. “I have always been a part of the ‘Supernatural’ family but more like the red-headed stepchild, so I feel a little more of a fraternal member now.”

Season 13 sees Lucifer trapped with Mary (Samantha Smith) in the alternate, post-apocalyptic world. It is a place in which Sam and Dean were never born and therefore were never able to save the world, but as a contrast to the “real” world, it is a world in which Lucifer was defeated – killed – by his brother, Michael (Christian Keyes). Therefore, even though he has all of his powers in that world, he is a bit of a “fish out of water” there.

“For the first time, he finds himself a little in over his head,” Pellegrino says. “He’s introduced to a narrative that doesn’t work for him, and the rebellious guy that he is, he finds himself fighting that narrative, and that becomes as much an element as anything else in the story.”

Here, Pellegrino talks with Variety about the unlikely alliance that will be Lucifer and Mary this season, a new brother dynamic with Michael, and siring one of the most powerful beings in the world of “Supernatural.”

What is the motivation behind Lucifer teaming up with Mary to figure out the alternate world this season? Does he need her more than she needs him over there?

He wants to use her as a bargaining chip. As far as Lucifer is concerned, the boys has something he wants, he has something they want, and a fair exchange can be made and all parties satisfied. So he certainly wants to keep her for an exchange with Jack [Alexander Calvert].

It doesn’t seem like she would trust that he’d keep her alive. How do they relate to each other in this strange new world?

I think she doesn’t trust Lucifer, in the way that Dean would never trust Lucifer. He’s an entity of a particular kind, which is a great throughline in a number of episode – this nature/nurture argument that occurs between Dean and Sam. I think she would fall on the nature argument, and so I don’t think she would ever fully trust him. She will probably try to use him for her survival as well, and you will see, at least in one episode, that actually comes to pass. He protects her against a gang of angels that come after Lucifer and she would have been part of the fall-out. They’re sort of an odd couple, strange bedfellows. They’re temporarily allied under strange circumstances, until things can get back to normal again.

You mentioned he wants to exchange Mary for Jack, which seems to imply he believes the rift can be re-opened. What steps is he taking to make sure that happens?

He’s just on the hunt, on the search. I don’t even think he knows what the nature of the rift is or why it was caused. He’s just trying to find it.

Is he confident that if and when it opens Jack will come to him with open arms?

I want to say he has a sort of romantic view – maybe I’m overstepping but a romantic view – of his relationship with a son. The idea of connecting with a son and being involved in nurturing a son, there is that fatherly sense of pride and desire to connect there. There is a stake in wanting to influence his son’s development, like any good father, and I think it’s genuine. I don’t think when he expresses his pride for his son and his curiosity about his son that it’s empty or utilitarian, I think he really does want to connect.

Is there any concern that Jack being more powerful than him is a threat to him?

So far it’s pride. It’s pride in the power and pride in what he helped to create. He knows a nephilim’s powers are almost equal to God, and that’s enticing to him. That’s fascinating. He wants to be involved in developing them.

In this world, Lucifer should no longer exist, so does he find himself constantly having to prove he is who he says he is?

It does seem to be a sort of thread that’s going through the stories, yeah. And it becomes a kind of annoying thing for him.

Michael killed Lucifer once in this world, and he probably believes there is only one of everyone in the world, so what is the dynamic like when those two meet?

It’s a tough one. I consider all of the dynamics between the big angels to be brother dynamics, and I think the same thing happens here, but Michael is definitely a different Michael in the alternate universe, and that includes his powers. This is where Lucifer has to confront the reality of not being top dog, and I think Lucifer handles it with his typical irreverence and disregard, at least outwardly, for any authority over him.

This Michael and Lucifer don’t share the story or the history, but in a way they are still brothers, so is there a sense of wanting to get to know each other at all from either of them?

I think you’re going to find the commonality will be in the strange bedfellows. Necessity becomes the element that brings some folks into alliances they never thought would happen in a million years.
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From Entertainment Weekly Supernatural: Jensen Ackles, Jared Padalecki say the boys aren't going 'full-mope'

But that won’t stop them from working other cases in the meantime. In fact, Dean is going to be throwing himself into the job now more than ever. “He’s essentially grieving by burying himself in work,” Jensen Ackles says. But don’t expect him to be enthusiastic about it. “He’s still going to fight the fight, but there’s less passion there because of the loss that he’s dealing with,” Ackles continues.

While Sam continues to look for ways to potentially save mom or maybe get Castiel back, Dean is focusing on the task at hand. His attitude, as Ackles puts it, is, “I’m not going to think about what I’ve lost. In turn, I’m just going to focus on what I can fix.” That leads Dean down what Ackles calls a “hopeless road.”

However, don’t expect the show to get too caught up in the darkness of it all. “The boys certainly aren’t mopey,” Padalecki says. Ackles adds, “That’s not interesting to me. What’s more interesting is the person who looks like everything’s fine when you are fully aware that everything is not fine.”
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SUPERNATURAL Teasers: The Debate Over Jack in “The Rising Son” from TheTVAddict

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The second episode of SUPERNATURAL this season introduces us to a new Prince of Hell, brings back the archangel Michael and gets into a deeper exploration of Jack’s nature. After watching this week’s episode, “The Rising Son”, we have some teasers to share with you.

The Demons Are Directionless. With Crowley dead and Lucifer gone, Asmodeus is stepping up to rule Hell and there are changes to be made. The bureaucracy of the Crowley era is gone and fire and brimstone will rule the day again, at least until Lucifer and his son arrive to take over the throne. But with Lucifer gone, Asmodeus wants the boy found and trained by him and he’ll stop at nothing to achieve this. We’ll also learn a new piece of Hell’s mythology thanks to this Prince of Hell.

Taking Care of the Problem. Dean is convinced that he and Sam are just waiting for Jack to go evil. Sam, meanwhile, is convinced Jack is the key to getting Mary back, but Dean still believes their mother is gone for good. While heading home to the bunker, the trio stop at a motel room for the night and Jack continues to be amazed at the world around him and gets a crash course in biblical mythology, as well as his family tree. The brothers take the downtime as an opportunity to test Jack’s abilities, but Jack seems genuinely oblivious to his powers (which leads to a few amusing scenes).

The Mighty Donatello. Donatello, the prophet last seen in season 1 of SUPERNATURAL, is back and how he’s still walking around after his run-in with Amara is quickly explained. He’s been drawn to Jack via the wave of power unleashed at his birth and he also has an important pronouncement about the boy, although the question of Jack’s true nature is still up for debate.

Understanding Jack. Sam is used to feeling like an outsider and having people be frightened of his abilities, so he’s easily able to bond with Jack and show him sympathy. This leads to a nice scene between the pair and more proof that Sam really understands Dean and his behavior.

The Odd Couple. Mary is resigned to her inevitable death at Lucifer’s hands in the alternative universe but, as he rightly points out, he’s far more intelligent and less evil than most people give him credit for. Instead, he wants to use Mary as leverage to get Jack back from the Winchesters. But Mary, understandably, isn’t in the mood to cooperate with the devil. Still, it seems a bit obvious that they might actually need one another to survive this world.

Enter Michael. The archangel Michael bested his brother Lucifer and won the apocalypse in this other universe and when he makes an appearance he’s very surprised to see a new version of Lucifer appear there. And Michael’s appearance does open the door to an interesting dynamic between the archangel brothers that we’ve rarely seen on the show.
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Supernatural bosses are hoping for another Bobby appearance in season 13 from EW

Supernatural‘s season 12 finale introduced the apocalypse world, a place where Sam and Dean were never born and heaven and hell are locked in an eternal war. More importantly, it’s a place where different versions of past characters can show up. Proof? The season 12 finale brought back Bobby Singer to be the one who explained the apocalypse world to Sam and Dean. No, it wasn’t their Bobby, but it was Bobby nonetheless.

Since then, Supernatural showrunners have said some “long-dead characters” would return in season 13, and we know that Kevin Tran is on that list. But what about Bobby? Was the season 12 appearance the last we’ll see of him? Doubtful. “Jim [Beaver] is a go-to character,” co-showrunner Robert Singer says. “If we can get Jim back, we always love to have him.”

Elaborating a bit further, co-showrunner Andrew Dabb says, “Moving into the middle [and] the back-half of the season, we plan to do a lot more exploring of the apocalypse world: What it looks like, what it is, how angels live there, how demons live there, how people live there, [and] hopefully another check-in with Bobby Singer down the road, maybe some other people as well.” That being said, Dabb cautions, “Ultimately, this is not an apocalypse world show. We’re not moving away from the bunker and the Impala.”

And why not? “The roads there are bad so we can’t bring the car, so right there we can’t go,” Dabb adds with a laugh.
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Supernatural: Misha Collins previews Castiel's 'deal with the devil' from EW

So far, we know that Supernatural fans will first see Castiel in episode 3. And we know that he’ll be reunited with the Winchesters (and Jack) by episode 6. But that won’t be the only reunion awaiting Castiel in season 13.

“There’s some stuff where he’s interacting with Lucifer quite a bit,” co-showrunner Robert Singer tells EW. Whether that means Castiel is in the apocalypse world or something else altogether, the angel is going to come face-to-face with the man who (most recently) killed him. “When we find Cas and Lucifer together, he says, ‘I’m a little on edge because the last time we were together you killed me,'” Collins teases.

But once the two get past their differences — to put it lightly — the interaction will serve a crucial purpose in terms of story. In this case, it’s what Collins says is “literally a deal with the devil.” According to Collins, the two are going to work together toward a common goal. “It’s Jack-related stuff,” Collins adds.
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How the 'Supernatural' Premiere Sets Up a Different Season 13 from The Hollywood Reporter

"The feeling of sadness and the feeling of loss, that doesn't go away," executive producer Brad Buckner said about this season's darker tone.
[Warning: The following story contains spoilers from Thursday's Supernatural season 13 premiere.]

Thirteen years in, Supernatural is changing up its formula.

The CW's longest-running series following demon-hunting brothers Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean Winchester (Jensen Ackles) has always been known for its high-stakes, far-reaching adventures, whether it's killing monsters, getting stuck in battles between Heaven and Hell or literally saving God (Rob Benedict) and the world. But the season 13 premiere pumped the brakes on the big action, instead focusing on the brothers' reactions to losing their mother Mary (Samantha Smith), their best friend/angel ally Castiel (Misha Collins) and demon frenemy Crowley (Mark Sheppard), all in one fell swoop. The end result was an hour that felt entirely unlike anything Supernatural has done before, with a feeling of profound loss and hopelessness permeating both the characters and the story, breathing new life into the old series.

As Sam and Dean tracked down Jack (Alexander Calvert), the son of Lucifer (Mark Pelligrino), while trying to repress their emotions, an overwhelming sense of sadness created a unique character study in what made each of the brothers so different. By the end of the hour, Dean lost all hope, breaking down and punching a wall until his knuckles bled as his prayers to God fell on deaf ears. On the flip side, Sam tried to think of literally anything they could do to fix what had been irrevocably broken, whether that meant figuring out a way to get their mother back or if it just meant saving the son of Satan and helping him find the good inside of him.

Executive producers Brad Buckner and Eugenie Ross-Leming theorize that this exploration of what makes the brothers different on a fundamental level as they deal with grief and the loss of hope is why the premiere (and subsequently the entire season) will stand out from past Supernatural seasons.

"The feeling of the first episode is a little different from our usual whiz-bang storytelling with lots of effects," Buckner told THR along with a small group of reporters. "The feeling of sadness and the feeling of loss, that doesn't go away. We don't bounce back from it right away. To take our time and explore how you work your way out of that is an interesting thing for us."

Eugenie-Ross said that because it's the 13th season, the producers had to figure out a way to go deeper with the brothers and the journey they've been on for more than a decade. Things had gotten too comfortable, which is why the premiere had "a reflective quality to it." And although viewers know that Castiel is coming back and their mother is alive (albeit trapped in an alternate Hell world with Lucifer himself), Sam and Dean don't.

"It influences particularly Dean's state of mind," Buckner said. "Both the guys have had to rebound from stuff over and over and just shake it off and go on with the family business, and this overwhelming loss at the start of the season is something that Dean just can't dig his way out of."

Losing essentially every ally they have signals a deep psychological shift in Dean that has only been explored in small doses before, like with his alcoholism and eschewing any kind of real romantic connection. "It's another nail in the coffin about the loss of hope," Eugenie-Ross said. "He has to come up with a reason to have purpose. Every battle he feels like he's swimming backwards. You just feel that there is this growing hopelessness and futility to his existence, that could lead to certain kind of nihilism. For him, it's a personal loss but it's also a cosmic loss of what's the point of being here when you scream at the wilderness and get nothing back."

Dean has always been a deeply flawed character, shooting first and asking questions later, but Sam has always been able to balance his older brother out. Padalecki explained that's because Sam believes he's good with "everything that's happened, all the wrong roads he's taken." However, the divide between how they each handle loss and defeat has never been wider than it is now, and that will "lead to conflict" between the brothers.

"Sam still has this optimism, this hope," Padalecki said. "Whereas Dean, especially in this episode, he's concerned that he is not, everything's going wrong. Sam takes the optimistic route and Dean is nihilistic and pessimistic. Sam sometimes creates his own carrot on the stick to go after. The way he grieves seems to be, 'I'm going to try to focus on this.'"

While "Sam is forced to be put in the position of being the cheerleader because profound grief can create such inertia," according to Buckner, "[Dean] needs a big piece of hope, he just needs some indication, some little light at the end of the tunnel to show that it's not all as dark as he thinks it is. He just has no lifelines left at this point."

That's definitely not a good place to be when tasked with the responsibility of raising Lucifer's all-powerful son.
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Supernatural Star Jared Padalecki, EPs Talk Winchesters' Grief, Cas' Return, 'Connection' With Jack and More from TVLine

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Lucky Season 13 of Supernatural got off to a heartbreaking start for Dean and Sam on Thursday.

With God not answering Dean’s prayers to bring back his loved ones, the elder Winchester was forced to accept that his mom Mary and friend Castiel are dead for good. He then salted and burned Cas’ body as a goodbye, but the emotional toll of all that the brothers have been through and lost along the way will continue to be felt.

“This episode, although it did have action, there was a reflective quality to it,” executive producer Eugenie Ross-Leming says. Throughout the season, “there’s still passion and fire and regret and revenge and all of those matinee qualities you need in an adventure, but I think there’s a deepening a little of these guys and the trip that they’ve been on.”

Brad Buckner: “There’s a… feeling of sadness to overcome, a feeling of loss this episode. And that doesn’t go away. They don’t bounce back from it right away.”
Read on for scoop on the Winchesters’ angelic reunion, the premiere’s Lucifer/Mary twist and the challenges of raising satan’s spawn Jack.

CAS | The angel is “not coming back real soon, and it influences, greatly, Dean’s state of mind,” Buckner previews. “Both of the guys have had to rebound from stuff over and over and just kind of shake it off and go on with the family business, and this overwhelming loss at the start of the season is something that Dean just can’t dig his way out of yet.” But eventually, the brothers will be reunited with their angel buddy, much to their “great relief,” star Jared Padalecki says. However, there’s also “great concern” because of what happened to Cas’ body. “I don’t know if we’ve had somebody come back after they’ve been salted and burned,” Padalecki notes. “There’s some genuine concern about what could have made this happen, who made this happen, why they made it happen. Can you trust it? Can you trust this version [of Castiel]? When [Sam] came back, [he] was soulless.” So while “the major emotion is relief and happiness,” there’s also a sense that “the other shoe might drop,” Padalecki adds.

MARY | Unbeknownst to her sons, Mama Winchester is still alive in the alternate apocalypse world — but so is Lucifer, and he might have a fate worse than death in mind for her. Rather than killing her in the premiere’s closing minutes, Lucifer declared that maybe he needs Mary. “He knows a way he could make use of her,” Buckner shares. “He’s an opportunist, and he thinks there’s a way he can use her to his own advantage.” As such, Mary is “a pawn in his big-picture game,” Ross-Leming describes. “The angels, generally, are middle management. They sort of do what they’ve been told. They’re not policy makers, but Lucifer is a big-picture guy, so he always has a plan.”

JACK | While in the womb, Lucifer’s spawn was “left with the imprint that Castiel is his de facto father,” Buckner explains. But with Cas gone, it will fall on Dean and Sam to parent him, and as seen in the season opener, they have very different approaches to the nephilim. Dean’s first instinct was to shoot Jack, while Sam took a kinder approach to the confused “kid.” “I’m trying to play Sam as if he feels, like, a bit of a connection,” Padalecki says. “We explore that a bit more, and I really enjoy the way it kind of ramps up a little bit as the season carries on. Sam doesn’t want to be wrong, but he doesn’t want to be careless if this kid, if this nephilim being, is going to be evil. He doesn’t want to just be blind to it, but he certainly does see a bit of a chance for redemption. He wants Jack to be good, to seek the same redemption that I think Sam seeks himself.”

As for Dean, he agreed to take Jack back to the bunker — until he figures out a way to end him. In the meantime, Lucifer’s son will become the newest member of the team, even bringing his own set of “peculiar gifts” to the boys’ cases. “But he doesn’t really know what he’s doing so it lends itself to some funny stuff,” Ross-Leming says. Speaking of Jack’s abilities, he’s actually even more powerful than the angel who sired him, and “has this ancient wisdom that I don’t think even he knows he has. He has a knowledge that’s imprinted in his essence, which starts to unfold for him.” It’s no wonder then that the angels want to get their hands on him, and they’re not the only ones hunting the nephilim. “Lots of entities are after Jack, for their own reasons,” Buckner teases. Adds Ross-Leming: “There are a lot of new bad players on the scene.”
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‘Supernatural’: Jared Padalecki on the Powerful ‘Luke Skywalker’ and How the Brothers Would React to Castiel’s Return from IndieWire

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[Editor’s Note: The following contains spoilers from the Season 13 premiere, titled “Lost and Found.”]

For “Supernatural,” 13 is a lucky number considering The CW series has lasted this long. After watching the premiere of the 13th season, its new, more poignant approach to the Winchesters’ story could be exactly what the show needs to keep on going for another 13 more years.

The premiere picks up with Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) still reeling from the loss of so many: their mother Mary (Samantha Smith) whom Lucifer (Pellegrino) took care of, Castiel (Misha Collins), and Crowley (Mark Sheppard). Even for a show with a high body count, those deaths have to sting and make a difference to our heroes. And they do. Despite what viewers know – that Castiel will be back in some form, and that Mary is in the alternate world with Lucifer – there’s a mournful yet resigned tone to the episode. This is the reality when you hunt monsters, and maybe too, when you get older.

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After a dozen years of this, Sam and Dean are no longer the hot-headed upstarts. They’re the old guard, or at least it feels that way now that they’re in charge of Lucifer’s half-human grown son Jack (the appropriately brooding Alexander Calvert). After a misunderstanding in which Dean shoots first, as is his wont, the elder Winchester is now willing to wait it out and be ready for the kid’s evil side to appear, along with his mysterious powers. That could be a very dangerous mistake.

“We find out that the nephilim lore is that the nephilim becomes more powerful than the angel who sired it,” Padalecki said in an interview with press for a screening of the premiere. “In this case that angel is an archangel, Lucifer, and it’s another playing with Joseph Campbell’s archetpyes, the ultimately powerful being who doesn’t really know how to – going back to Yoda and Luke Skywalker – just trying to figure out how to even access [the powers] much less hone them. And in his particular instance, it’s almost a knee-jerk reaction. Early on, Sam and Dean are leading the charge because they also don’t want to walk down the street and go ‘Hey, be nice to this kid. He’s the son of Satan. Don’t piss him off.’ So the situation requires some tact and some covert ops but we will obviously see him be influenced by other factions.”

Executive producer Brad Buckner added, “It gives us a chance to do some really charming scenes with Sam trying to feel his way along and trying to deal with this kid as a son and give him lessons and slowly give him little exercises to try to control this stuff. It’s a learning situation for everybody.”

Below, Padalecki, Buckner and executive producer Eugenie Ross-Leming dig into the episode and give an idea of what’s in store for Sam and Dean this season.

Jack’s Two Foster Dads

As seen in the episode, Sam is far more willing to see Jack as an innocent, despite his evil parentage. Dean doesn’t, given their track record with Lucifer. Besides, he’s also dealing with a crisis of faith now that his prayers have seemingly been ignored by God/Chuck.

“I’m trying to play Sam as if he feels like a bit of a connection,” said Padalecki. “We explore that a bit more, and I really enjoy the way it kind of ramps up a little bit as the season carries on, where Sam doesn’t want to be wrong, but he doesn’t want to be careless if this kid, if this nephilim being is going to be evil. He doesn’t want to just be blind to it, but he certainly does see a bit of a chance for redemption. He wants Jack to be good to see the same redemption that I think Sam seeks himself.”

In contrast, Dean isn’t so easily won over. “Dean operates off of his gut, and what his gut is telling him is this is the spawn of Satan,” said Buckner. “I don’t know if that kind of character has ever been presented in a favorable light. So we’re conditioned to that ‘Omen’ kind of thing. This kid has got qualities that while he’s obviously can be potentially dangerous, he is curious and inquisitive and willing to believe, and that Sam takes as adding up those positives.”

Ross Leming added, “Yes, he’s the son of Satan, but he’s also the son of humanity. And so we don’t actually know ourselves… where he’s going to go in terms of what his destiny is. But what has led us as writers to do is to start redefining what is good and evil anyway. I think this season will be a little more nuanced. Yes Crowley was evil, but playful. But I think now we’re going to have the ultimate evil, may be not so ultimate. They’ll be shades of what really evil means in mankind terms.”

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Jack’s Powers

“It takes a long time for him to get to a point where he actually has full control,” said Buckner. “Right now he is at the mercy of impulse, he senses something or feels something and wham, a power that he didn’t even know he had emerges. He’s this tremendously powerful figure… and all that stuff is bottled up, he just doesn’t know how to access it on a conscious level.

Ross-Leming added, “As his psychology starts to catch up, he will then be faced with his own moral crossroads of, ‘How will I use this? Will this please me? Will I be motivated by pleasure, greed, power or selflessness?’ He’s got so much in his mental mixture that may surprise us.”

Castiel the Absentee Dad and His Problematic Return

Losing Castiel hits Dean particularly hard this season. “It’s another nail in the coffin about the loss of hope,” said Buckner.”He has to come up with a reason to have purpose; every battle, he feels like he’s swimming backwards. When I was watching the show this time again, you just feel that there’s a growing hopelessness and futility to his existence, and could lead to a certain kind of nihilism. For him it’s a personal loss, but it’s also a cosmic loss of what’s the point of being here when you scream at the wilderness and get nothing back.”

It’s also a loss for Jack, whose mother taught him to look to Castiel as a father figure while Jack was still in utero.

“He learned English by hearing Kelly (Courtney Ford), Kelly spoke to him all the time,” said Buckner. “One of the messages that she gave him was that Castiel will be your guardian, because Castiel really took over their defense and got them away from bad situations and Castiel was really there for them, and he promised Kelly that he would make sure no harm came to Jack. So somehow all of this got transmitted into Jack’s DNA and he’s left with the imprint that Castiel is his de facto father.”

Ross-Leming said, “He’s socially and chronologically naïve and new to our world, but he also has this ancient wisdom that I don’t think even he knows he has. He has a knowledge that’s sort of imprinted in his essence, which starts to unfold for him.”

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Fans already know that Castiel will return to the show somehow though, and this will predictably do a number on the Winchesters when they realize he’s alive.

“There’s obviously great relief. But there’s also there’s also great concern about, ‘Wait a second.’ You saw us burn him. I don’t know if we’ve had somebody come back after they’ve been burned, salted and burned. There’s some genuine concern about what could have made this happen, who made this happen, why they made it happen. Can you trust it? Can you trust this version? When I came back, I was soulless. Is this different? There are a lot of questions in the air. Obviously, the major emotion is relief and happiness. But as is the case with all Supernatural, the other shoe might drop. There’s a little asterisk. Castiel comes back – asterisk.”

The Angels

Jack and his powers are in demand this season, and it appears that a little intimidation and bloodshed are not going to stand in anyone’s way.

“Lots of entities are after Jack, for their own reasons,” said Buckner. “Everyone, obviously, could use that kind of power in their hip pocket. The angels because he has the most direct connection to them, they want to see what’s ticking with this. They certainly were relieved when Lucifer was bottled up, and now here’s a new version of Lucifer who is the most wanted guy in Heaven. So, they’re the first to get into the act, but they aren’t the only ones.”

“There are a lot of new bad players on the scene,” Ross-Leming confirmed.

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Mary’s Plight

In the episode’s closing scene, it’s confirmed that Lucifer and Mary are in the alternate world, and for some reason, he decides not to kill her.

“She’s a pawn in his big-picture game,” said Ross-Leming. “The angels generally are middle management. They sort of do what they’ve been told; they’re not policy makers, but Lucifer is a big picture guy, so he always has a plan. Sometimes when he’s locked in a cage he can’t do anything with it, but he’s been loose now, and Mary’s a piece of his puzzle.”

The “Wayward Sisters” Spinoff

A spinoff to “Supernatural” was announced earlier this year, featuring fan favorite character Sheriff Jody Mills (Kim Rhodes) providing the guiding presence for several young female hunters who’ve been orphaned by supernatural tragedy. Briana Buckmaster’s Donna Hanscum, Kathryn Newton’s Claire Novak and Katherine Ramdeen’s Alex Jones will also appear in the series, which will be introduced as a backdoor pilot.

“Its DNA will absolutely be recognizable as the child of as opposed to an entirely separate looking thing,” said Buckner.

“It’ll be born out of our context,” said Ross-Leming. “I think it’ll have the flavor of our show, with a more, as I say, estrogen-heavy slant.”
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Jared Padalecki on ‘Supernatural’ Season 13: Sam Wants Redemption for Jack from Variety

“Supernatural” star Jared Padalecki admits that there always comes a point in the summer before the long-running CW drama is scheduled to go back into production that he wonders just what the show will do now to keep things fresh, interesting and yes, scary. But after the events of last season’s finale, which saw Lucifer’s son Jack (Alexander Calvert) born, as well as the introduction of an alternate world in which Sam (Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) had never been born, let alone saved the world, he felt confident the 13th season would feel “super fresh.”

And things are off to a strong, even if dark, start. After Jack initially used his powers on Sam and Dean to escape the cabin and go looking for his father, the Winchesters were able to catch up with him and turn the tables by saving him from a trio of angels who were hunting for the nephilim, who is one of the most powerful creatures on the planet. In traditional form, Dean originally wanted just to kill Jack — who, as it turns out, might not be able to be killed at all, seeing as how an angel blade to the heart (something which should have slowed down his angel and his human side) barely left a mark. Meanwhile, Sam took the approach of trying to understand and bond with him. Although Dean has come around to allowing Jack into their lives (and their bunker) by episode’s end, Sam will still be the one leading the charge on appealing to Jack’s good side.

“I feel like Sam believes he’s good. With all of the s–t that’s happened – all the wrong roads he’s taken – Sam still has this optimism, this hope. He’s trying to manifest that onto Jack, whereas Dean, especially in this episode, he’s concerned he’s not [good],” Padalecki says, noting that the sense of “feeling out there or different” is something he’s always loved as a storyline for Sam, and that’s something the character has in common with Jack.

“Sam doesn’t want to be wrong, and he doesn’t want to be careless if this kid, or this nephilim being, is evil. he doesn’t want to be blind to it, but he definitely does see a chance for redemption. He wants Jack to be good to see the same redemption that I think Sam seeks for himself.”

“Supernatural,” therefore, will be playing with the “nature versus nurture concept” this season, as the Winchesters attempt to guide Jack toward the reasons behind doing good things and saving people. However, outside forces beyond their control are making their marks on him, as well. Already in the premiere he has formed feelings about angels based on the way they came for him. And in the next episode, Asmodeus (guest star Jeffrey Vincent Parise), the new Prince of Hell, is coming after him, too.

The Winchesters’ feelings about themselves will get “transposed” onto how they “parent” Jack and help him deal with these threats. And executive producer Brad Buckner adds that will lend itself to scenes with Sam trying to give Jack lessons on how to harness his powers and only use them at specific times and for good. But gaining full control is going to be a “slow roll out.”

“Right now he is at the mercy of impulse. He senses something or feels something and wham, a power he didn’t even know he has emerges. He is this tremendously powerful figure,” Buckner says. “He just doesn’t know how to access it on a conscious level.”

Just how powerful is Jack? “The nephilim lore is that the nephilim becomes more powerful than the angel who sired it,” says Padalecki. “In this case that angel is an Archangel, Lucifer.”

The only other being with the level of power Jack has may just be God (Rob Benedict), who, as the Season 13 premiere shows, is still ignoring Dean’s pleas for help. For Dean, this kind of “cosmic loss,” coupled with the physical losses of Castiel (Misha Collins) and his mother Mary (Samantha Smith), who he is convinced Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino) has killed over in that alternate world, causes a nihilistic view and overall loss of hope.

Buckner believes such profound grief causes “such inertia” that Dean may be immobilized at times. This may force Sam to “keep the training running.” After all, as Padalecki points out, Sam is not convinced Mary is dead, so he still has enough hope they can get her back if they can get Jack on their side.

“Who knows if it’s a sensation or a feeling he has or dumb hope, but Jack opened the rift once, so maybe he can open it again,” Padalecki acknowledges. “And Sam sometimes creates his own carrot on a stick to go after, so I think Sam, the way he grieves, is to go, ‘OK well, I’m going to focus on this and see if Jack can do this and guide him because I believe in him the way people believed in me.’ So we see Sam taking that route.”

Executive producer Eugenie Ross-Leming notes these opposing ways will lead to “day to day conflict” between the brothers. But that won’t stop them from getting up everyday and continuing to work alongside each other to do what they have always done best. “Things start to unfold that take their attention and suddenly they don’t have as much time to reflect or brood or grieve,” Ross-Leming says. “They have to go into action, and who they are as people is revealed in how they act with the soon-to-be-revealed crises.”

One of these crises might just be the eventual return of Castiel. After all, the Season 13 premiere saw the Winchesters salting and burning his body, and yet somehow he will still manage to bounce back. “There’s some genuine concern about what could have made this happen, who made it happen, why they made it happen. Can you trust it? Can you trust this version? When I came back, I was soulless,” Padalecki says. “Obviously the major emotion is relief and happiness, but as is the case with all ‘Supernatural,’ the other shoe might drop.”
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'Supernatural' Season 13 sees the Winchesters dealing with grief, fatherhood, and the spawn of Satan from Mashable

Supernatural kicked off its lucky 13th season on an emotional note, with Sam and Dean saying a heartbreaking farewell to Castiel — along with all the other allies they've lost in recent months — and reluctantly taking Lucifer's newborn son, Jack (who happens to be a full-grown dude) under their wing.

Luckily for fans, we already know that Cas is coming back this season, so we don't need to mourn Misha Collins' resilient angel — but for the Winchesters, that loss is potent and, as far as they know, permanent.

"This profound sense of loss lingers over several episodes. He’s not coming back real soon, and it influences, greatly, Dean’s state of mind," says producer Brad Buckner, who was joined by his writing partner Eugenie Ross-Leming and star Jared Padalecki for a press conference to discuss the Season 13 premiere. "Both the guys have had to rebound from stuff over and over and just kind of shake it off and go on with the family business, and this overwhelming loss at the start of the season is something that Dean just can’t dig his way out of yet."

That grief is compounded by Dean's feeling that the Winchesters are truly alone in this fight — as demonstrated by his desperate prayer to Chuck to bring back Cas and their mother, Mary, which once again went unanswered.

"It’s not only the loss of Cas, which is huge for the guys — but especially for Dean, it’s another nail in the coffin about the loss of hope," agrees Ross-Leming. "He has to come up with a reason to have purpose; every battle, he feels like he’s swimming backwards ... You just feel that there’s a growing hopelessness and futility to his existence, and could lead to a certain kind of nihilism. I don’t think we’ll go that nihilistic, but for him it’s a personal loss, but it’s also a cosmic loss of what’s the point of being here, when you scream at the wilderness and get nothing back?"

When Castiel does eventually return, Padalecki says that his unexpected resurrection will bring mixed emotions for the boys.

"There's obviously great relief. But there's also – and we'll see how it comes about – great concern about, wait a second, you saw us burn him. I don't know if we've had somebody come back after they've been salted and burned," he points out. "There's some genuine concern about what could have made this happen, who made this happen, why they made it happen. Can you trust it? Can you trust this version? When I came back, I was soulless. Is this different? There are a lot of questions in the air. Obviously, the major emotion is relief and happiness. But as is the case with all Supernatural, the other shoe might drop. So we'll see what happens."

Meanwhile, rumors of Mary Winchester's death have been greatly exaggerated — she's currently stuck in an alternate universe with Lucifer, and with Jack's burgeoning powers still a mystery to him and the Winchesters, there's no clear way for them to get back to their timeline.

When Mary and Lucifer tumbled through the rip in reality, they were locked in a fight to the death, but right now Lucifer seems to have called a ceasefire.

"He knows a way he could make use of her. He's an opportunist, and he thinks there's a way he can use her to his own advantage," says Buckner.

"She's a pawn in his big-picture game," adds Ross-Leming. "The angels generally are middle management. They sort of do what they've been told; they're not policy makers, but Lucifer is a big picture guy, so he always has a plan... Mary's a piece of his puzzle."

The final minutes of the Season 13 premiere indicated that Dean is certain their mother is dead, while Sam "is not convinced," per Padalecki.

"Who knows if it's a sensation or a feeling he has, or it's just dumb hope, but there's another side to him and Jack, where Jack opened the rift once, maybe he is the only person who can open it again," he says. "I think Sam, the way he grieves, seems to be like 'okay, well, I'm going to try and focus on this, and get back to the rift, and see if Jack can do this, because I believe in him like people have believed in me,' and so we see Sam taking that route."

The producers hint that the alternate timeline will be a fixture in the show for much of Season 13 — which will allow us to see some familiar faces who might be long dead in our timeline, like Jim Beaver's Bobby, who we saw in the Season 12 finale. "Ultimately, this world becomes yet another threat that gets built to in the course of the season. So that’s been a lot of fun," says Buckner.

But while Mary and Lucifer (and hopefully some old friends) are dealing with the drama of the alternate timeline, Sam and Dean have to deal with the more pressing concern of what to do with Jack.

His inclusion allows the show to reinvent itself once again, with a villain who might not be a villain at all; an examination of morality that could test everything Sam and Dean believe; and an opportunity to see how the Winchesters' parenting styles differ.

"I think Sam relates to him in lots of ways, that person who doesn’t quite belong, the person who has been left, abandoned. So I think there’s already that kind of psychological bonding going on," says Buckner. "Dean’s going to take a while. Sam I think comes at any problem more from scientific method. He examines the evidence, and if the evidence leads you to one conclusion, then that seems sort of obvious. And Dean operates off of his gut, and what his gut is telling him is this is the spawn of Satan. And I don’t know if that kind of character has ever been presented in a favorable light. We’re conditioned to that Omen kind of thing, and this kid has got qualities that while he obviously can be potentially dangerous, he is curious and inquisitive and willing to believe, and that Sam takes as adding up those positives. So he becomes a parent first. Dean is more slow to come around and is determined to get rid of this problem."

"I mean, Dean has been a parent all his life. He’s parented Sam. They’re children of abandonment, so Dean has a lot of practice in being a parent and not as much practice in being a child. That’s a huge hole in him, his never having been nurtured that properly himself," Ross-Leming adds. "But I think with the arrival of Jack we are dealing now with, yes, he’s the son of Satan, but he’s also the son of humanity. We don’t actually know ourselves — although there’s arguments about this — where he’s going to go in terms of what his destiny is. But what that has led us as writers to do is to start redefining what is good and evil anyway? I think this season will be a little more nuanced."
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Supernatural: Osric Chau returning as Kevin in season 13

When Supernatural introduced the apocalypse world in season 12 — an alternate universe where Sam and Dean were never born — it opened a door of possibility in terms of bringing back old characters that fans haven’t seen in years. And it all started when the season 12 finale saw Sam, Dean, and Cas come face-to-face with a new version of Bobby Singer. So now the question is: Who’s next?

The Supernatural showrunners have said that some long-dead characters will return this year, and EW can reveal that Kevin Tran (Osric Chau) is among them. Kevin first appeared in the show’s seventh season and remained a key figure until his death in season 9 (after which he still made a couple appearances).

But remember, when he shows up this time, it won’t be the prophet you know and love. “It’s a different Kevin,” co-showrunner Robert Singer says. “It’s Osric, but it’s different so we’re having a lot of fun playing with that.” Co-showrunner Andrew Dabb adds, “The triumphant return of Kevin will be really fun. We don’t want to make the alternate world an endless parade of [old characters], but it does present us with opportunities if we can find a new interpretation on a character we like — like Bobby Singer last year, like Kevin this year, like Michael. You don’t want to make it a gimmick, but you don’t want to totally ignore the opportunity, and I think we have an opportunity here, so we definitely are going to use it selectively.”

At this point, there’s no word on when we’ll see Kevin or for how long.
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‘Supernatural’ Boss Says Season 13 Sees the Winchesters the ‘Most Alone’ They’ve Been from Variety.

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When the CW’s long-running demon-hunting drama “Supernatural” returns with its 13th season, brothers Dean and Sam Winchester (Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki) are not separated from each other but from a different Winchester family member — their mother, Mary (Samantha Smith), who fell through the rip between worlds at the end of last season.

“This will be the most alone Sam and Dean have been,” series executive producer Andrew Dabb tells Variety. “They don’t have Castiel, they don’t have Crowley, they don’t have Mom, they don’t have Rowena. They have each other and this weird kid who could probably kill them if he wanted to.”

When season 13 starts, the Winchesters will feel an urgency to get to the bottom of how Jack (Alexander Calvert) can tap into his powers as Lucifer’s son to re-open the rip between worlds. “Overall, the push for mom is the driving factor behind a lot of what our guys do and the melodrama between them in the first chunk of the season,” Dabb says, adding that the question really is if and how Jack will help them.

The son of Lucifer is a “blank slate” when season 13 starts, which allows the show to play with the question of whether nature or nurture means the most to who a person becomes.

“As much as last season was about Sam and Dean being kids, this season is about them as parents,” Dabb says, adding that Jack begins to see the Winchesters as “role models.”

On the flip side, Dean and Sam begin to see themselves reflected in Jack at times. “Sam was cursed with powers for a big chunk of the show, and Dean sees this kid who is eager to please his dad and wonders if he’s turning into his father,” Dabb says. “And we say with kids all of the time, you hope they get your best qualities, but sometimes they get your worst qualities. Sam and Dean have been through dark times, and that’s something Jack will be exposed to.”

Convincing Jack to help them may take some time, as will teaching Jack how to harness and focus the power to re-open the rip. But that is not a new dilemma for a show that always mixes heavy mythology episodes with standalone cases of the week. Season 13 will follow the “general pattern” of the show, Dabb says, with episodes one, two, seven and nine being myth-heavy, exploring the alternate, apocalypse world sporadically.

“We won’t spend a lot of time with Mary and Lucifer in the apocalypse world, as we’re still most focused, and our audience cares most about, following Sam and Dean,” Dabb admits.

But having the world at their disposal to dip into occasionally opens up new storytelling opportunities for the show that has become known for going big with its season-long myth arcs. Although there is only one of each cosmic player (like God, Amara, or Death) in the world of “Supernatural,” anyone below that level (like archangels, Lucifer, and yes, Crowley) could have a counterpoint in the apocalypse world. Dabb says it’s “not a guarantee” that everyone does – after all, that is a world without Sam and Dean – but it is something the writers are playing with as a way to introduce some new versions of characters, like the archangel Michael (Christian Keyes). “The new Michael is a warrior. He already killed the Lucifer of his world, so it’s a new point of view. He doesn’t care about our Lucifer, and he doesn’t care about Dean – at least not at first,” Dabb says.

And although Castiel (Misha Collins) will be back in season 13, even though he appeared to die in the season 12 finale, he will not suddenly pop up “midway through episode one,” says Dabb. “Dean, and Jack to a great extent, had a great bond with Castiel, and they have to marinate a little bit and feel the loss. So even when he makes his triumphant return as a changed character, they’ll have an even bigger reaction.”

The apocalypse world is also a way for the writers to reinforce just how important Dean and Sam are after all of this time. “As the season progresses we are spending more time in the apocalypse world. It’s an on-going resource to really show the horrible difference in what the world looks like without these guys,” Dabb says.

And to that end, Dabb says that although the apocalypse world is not intended to be a new five-year arc, he also can’t say for sure that it will all be resolved in season 13. “What’s bigger than God? The answer is nothing. So after we did that, it was really about new directions that we could take our characters that will give them new things to react to? This opens up a lot of storytelling ideas in that way,” Dabb says.
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Question: Will Supernatural‘s Sam and/or Dean have a romantic interest in Season 13? —Elle S.

Ausiello: “I don’t think this is that show, honestly,” executive producer Andrew Dabb tells TVLine. “Neither of them is looking for love, let’s put it that way. Sam has been in love multiple times, and Dean has had his own relationships… There was a time when Sam and Dean, and particularly Sam at one point, thought they could have a normal life and walk away from the fight. I don’t think either of our guys look at it that way anymore. They know they’re going to fight until they can’t fight anymore, either until they win or they die. When you’re committed to that fight, the idea of bringing someone into that and being like, ‘Hey, let’s get married’ [doesn’t compute]. I’m not sure either of our guys is really looking for that at this point in time.”
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Get to know ‘Supernatural’ season 13 premiere guest star Carlena Britch from nerdalertnewsblog.wordpress.com

Carlena Britch joins the “Supernatural Family” with her guest role as Miriam in the season 13 premiere. Known for TV’s “Lip Sync Battle” and the film “Opening Night,” the talented young actress shares reactions on the set of the CW staple, and a recent film with another “Supernatural” alum Alona Tal. Get to know Carlena while waiting for the premiere on Oct. 12, 2017.

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Nerd Alert News: Avoiding spoilers for the season 13 premiere of “Supernatural,” I just have two quick questions:

1.) What was your first reaction when you walked on set?

Carlena Britch: Holy crap Jared is so tall! (while craning my neck to introduce myself.)

2.) Were you a fan of “Supernatural” before you were cast for the part?

CB: I was! I’m a lover of all things fantasy and horror and particularly love the Winchester brothers humorous addition to the genre.

NAN: Tell your fans about “Lip Sync Battle.” What is the show like to film?

CB: Lip Sync Battle is WILD! We tape in front of live audiences so the energy in the soundstage is always incredibly infectious.

NAN: What are you allowed to share about the film “Opening Night?” I noticed that another “Supernatural” alum Alona Tal was in it as well. Tell your fans about this film, and did you get to swap any Jared and Jensen stories while on set?

CB: We shot “Opening Night” a few years ago, so rather than Jared and Jensen stories, Alona and I bonded while rapping one-hit wonder lyrics in our Amadeus wigs; which were so itchy!

NAN: What are you allowed to share about your film “You Killed My Mother” and any other projects that you have in the works?

CB: “You Killed My Mother” was very special as I personally connected to a lot of Jo’s story. I’m really looking forward to its release and the audience’s relationship with it.
This week I start working on an indie horror flick I’m really excited about! Stay tuned!

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Hey SPN lovers - I only discovered Supernatural last fall - I literally took days off work and power-watched all 11 1/2 seasons...BEST "vacation" EVER!! Since then I have read and watched everything out there that I can find. My next goal - a SPN Convention of course. Anyway, counting down the minutes til Season 13 premiere and there are a couple of characters that were fan favs that no one has mentioned that could make a return and that is Jo and Ellen.......What about the possibility of them kickin some butt from the AU..!? Was glad to see that Missouri is being brought back - just re-watched that episode for about the 10th run thru so she was on my mind. Anyway, I am happy and proud to be a part of SPN and sooooo glad I found all you guys, fans, cast, and actors....love you all !!!!!!!

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I could see Jo and Ellen returning even more bad-ass hunters. I was so sad when they were killed.
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EW can exclusively reveal that Yadira Guevara-Prip will recur on season 13 of Supernatural as Kaia Nieves, and should the backdoor pilot for Wayward Sisters get picked up to series, she will become a regular on the spin-off.

The article goes on to describe the character, named Kaia Nieves.

As for Kaia, her character description reveals she lost her family at a young age. By the time she reached adulthood, she was on her own, completely disconnected from her roots, as she tried to understand a burgeoning gift: In her dreams, Kaia walks between worlds — a rare and terrifying power she experiences only as a curse… a power she doesn’t understand and can’t yet control. Flinty, sarcastic, and profoundly haunted, Kaia is nevertheless strong and willful as hell — she’s had to be to survive this long on her own.

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Totally psyched for s13....will admit though, have absolutely no interest what so ever in a spinoff......guess J2 broke the mold and there is nobody who can carry on ...when Sam and Dean are done with the hunt....The end of the greatest show there ever was will ultimately reach it's conclusion.....unless of course the boys come back for a movie....Supernatural begins and ends with Sam and Dean....
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I can't wait for season 13 too! Not long now. :)
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Dean and Sam Winchester, congrats! You’re now in charge of a (very large) newborn!

In these photos from Supernatural‘s Season 13 premiere, the brothers find themselves tending to Lucifer’s offspring, Jack (played by Arrow‘s Alexander Calvert), who has come out of the womb “physically fully-formed,” but “with no agenda,” executive producer Andrew Dabb told TVLine during our Fall

“He’s, in a lot of ways, a blank slate,” the EP continued. “So he’s going to take guidance from the people around him, and the people around him are Sam and Dean. Yes, he’s the son of the devil, but he’s also the son of Kelly Kline. Is he good? Is he evil?

As he looks at Sam and Dean, our guys are complicated characters. I don’t think you can say that everything they do is 100-percent lawful good. Our guys make sacrifices [and] compromises.

How will he learn from those lessons? How do Sam and Dean want to teach him during those lessons? Do they want to help him around certain mistakes that they had made?

All these are questions we’re dealing with as…Sam and Dean are, to a large degree, acting as parents in this season, which is a new thing for them and for everyone involved.”

Supernatural Season 13 premieres on Thursday, Oct. 12, at 8/7c on The CW.
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Question: What scoop can you give on the new season of Supernatural? —@TheatreGirl7299 via Twitter

Ausiello: When Loretta Devine’s psychic Missouri Moseley returns in Episode 3, we’ll find out “the reasons why we haven’t seen her in a few years,” executive producer Andrew Dabb tells TVLine. Plus, the Season 1 character is “one of the few people still around who can comment on what Sam and Dean were like versus what they are like [now]. The last time she saw Sam and Dean, Sam was just out of college, and Dean was struggling with being his own man, still kind of in his dad’s shadow. They are not those guys anymore.”
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Wait one second.....is that @JeffreyVParise in the #Supernatural promo as the new King/Prince of Hell?!? Because YES!!!! ? #SPNFamily

Jeffrey Vincent Parise IMDb

Jeffrey Vincent Parise was born in 1971 in Indianapolis, Indiana, USA. He is an actor and writer, known for The Detour (2016), The Love Witch (2016) and Mad Men (2007).

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The CW promo - Supernatural Season 13 Promo (HD)



Season 13 is their lucky number. Supernatural Season 13 premieres Thursday October 12th on The CW! Subscribe to tvpromosdb on Youtube for more Supernatural season 13 promos in HD!
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Supernatural‘s Dean lost his mother just after reconciling with her, his best friend and his frenemy all at once. How will this affect him? —Adder
“That’s one of the reasons that Cas is deader than normal, because we want to play with that [grief],” showrunner Andrew Dabb tells TVLine. ” With Dean, especially, everything he’s lost… He feels it hard. He’s put so much hope in building up Team Free Will 2.0 and building up this very cool group of people he’s working with. He’s opened himself up in a lot of different ways with Mary, with Crowley, with Cas, and he’s been punched in the heart about a million times in the last season. So you’re dealing with someone who’s a little bit more guarded, a little bit more jaded, a little bit more not necessarily asking, ‘What’s it all for?’ but certainly asking, ‘Did they do the right thing? Should they have made the sacrifices they made? Should they have asked other people to make the sacrifices they made?’ Those are all questions that are at the forefront of our guys’ minds.”
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“The Michael of apocalypse world is the victor,” showrunner Andrew Dabb says of the new version of the character, who will be played by Christian Keyes. “He’s a very different character than the one we met even in season 5. He’s Genghis Khan. He’s been through the wars. He’s conquered the world.” All the brothers can hope now is that he won’t conquer theirs, seeing as how Dabb says the worlds will collide…eventually.
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Sure! I asked what was coming up for Sam in season 13 and he said he was excited about it and hinted that they were bringing back an older Storyline that he loved, so much so that he personally called Dabb to tell him how excited he was.
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My thinking is that it's Michael, but BOY would I love for it to be Sam's psychic powers!
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Cutting to the chase, “death is not the end for Castiel,” executive producer Andrew Dabb reports. “That being said, when we pick up our season he’s more dead than people usually get on our show. Castiel has a big role to play for us, but that may not be as soon as some people are hoping.” Meanwhile, the Winchester brothers, Dean especially, are reeling from the double whammy of losing their friend and their mom Mary. “There’s no one they can call,” Dabb notes, “so our guys are a bit on their own, a little spun out, both emotionally and in terms of the plot.” On top of that, they’re “acting as parents” to Lucifer’s “walking atomic bomb” offspring. “There are parts of him and things he does that they really love,” Dabb shares, “and there are parts of him and things he does that worry them a bit.” In the alt apocalypse world, Mary’s attempt to run away from Lucifer doesn’t go as well as she had hoped, while the fallen archangel finds that he “may not be the most powerful” creature over there.

BONUS SPOILER!: “Even if it’s not played by an actor that we recognize, there are certain characters that are going to come back in different bodies,” Dabb hints.
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Travis Aaron Wade @TravisAaronWade Aug 16
Ah! Feels so good to be back in Vancouver working on hush hush show. My 2nd home w #discoelevator #imback #karma #back2tv #CT
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Question: Please tell me there’s a chance Supernatural will do the right thing and give us some Crowley in Season 13. —April

Ausiello: Mark Sheppard may’ve closed the door on his character’s return, but the show hasn’t. “We love Mark,” executive producer Andrew Dabb tells TVLine. “We think he’s awesome, and he’s been great on the show. At this point in time, [his potential return] is a little up in the air. Where we took Crowley, where he ended up, made sense for us in a lot of different ways. I would never write off anyone coming back on the show, but I’d be lying to you if I said there were plans to bring him back in, like, Episode 3.”

Question: I’m dying for a scoop on Supernatural‘s animated episode. Will we actually meet ‘toon versions of Sam and Dean? Spoil me crazy, please! —Cordell

Ausiello: At Comic-Con, Jensen Ackles teased that the installment is “very Scooby-Doo-esque,” but “slightly darker.” And, yes, the boys will definitely get animated. (Ackles’ reaction to his cartoon self? “‘Yes!’ How cool is that? I grew up watching Scooby-Doo. Now I’m, like, on it.”) And while executive producer Andrew Dabb says the hour is “about as far outside of the box as we get” in Season 13, there is another fun adventure in store for the Winchesters. “We’ve got an episode coming up after our midseason break, which we’re essentially titling ‘Stakes on a Train,'” Dabb shares. “It’s our version of a train heist with vampires.”
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