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Supernatural 12x16 Inside "Ladies Drink Free" (HD) Season 12 Episode 16 Inside sneak peek revealed that this episode has one element that goes forward to season 13!



What could it be? :o
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Jensen is directing in season 13 from SeaCon!
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Season 13 announced January 8, 2017!

Season 13, here we come!!! Thanks to all those who have kept us going this long...what a life changing ride it has been. #SPNFamily forever! — Jensen Ackles (@JensenAckles) January 8, 2017
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Jensen hinted at AHBLCon 2017 that something "sort of purgatory-esque" is coming.
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Supernatural Wiki‏ @SuperWiki May 16
In honour of our amazing writers returning to work on SPN Season13 today, I created our first S13 episode page! Season 13 episode 1
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CW Announces Fall 2017 Schedule at the Up fronts.

MONDAY
8 pm Supergirl
9 pm VALOR

TUESDAY
8 pm The Flash
9 pm DC’s Legends of Tomorrow

WEDNESDAY
8 pm Riverdale (new time slot)
9 pm DYNASTY

THURSDAY
8 pm Supernatural
9 pm Arrow (new time slot)

FRIDAY
8 pm Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (new time slot)
9 pm Jane the Virgin (new time slot)
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SUPERNATURAL Will Do an Animated SCOOBY DOO Episode in Season 13 from TheTVAddict.

Michael Schneider‏ @franklinavenue 24 minutes ago
#Supernatural will be doing an animated #ScoobyDoo episode next season. @TheCW
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Hello Supernatural fans! First time posting here. I live in Los Angeles and am a GIANT "Supernatural" fan. I actually work in animation as an animation checker and just found out that I am going to get to work on this crossover episode for Warner Bros! To say I am beyond excited is an understatement. I can't say much, but the show is in full production and my part of the animation process will be starting next week. Can't wait to work on this episode!!
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Yeah, sorry, no spoilers allowed! Just know it's going to be AMAZING!!
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Jealous but good luck! You probably can't give spoilers to us. :D
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Sara• ACKLES SUPPORT‏ @JensenAcklesGod 11 minutes ago

Jared said 13x16 is the Scooby Doo one AND MISHA IS IN THE EPISODE AND JENSEN WAS LIKE "WTF SPOILER"
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From Supernatural Season 13 Spoiler sheet They are pretty reliable with spoilers, but not 100%

  • There will be an Animated SCOOBY DOO crossover episode. No I’m not making this up. (x) It will be written by Jeremy Adams and Jim Krieg. Jared, Jensen AND MISHA have already recorded their voice parts. This will be episode 16. (x)
  • Here’s what we knew about Mark Sheppard and Misha in Season 13 as of May 19. On May 20, Jared lets slip that Misha is going to be int eh scooby Doo episode so we WILL GET MISHA/CAS Back. Will update more as more information becomes available re; Mark, Ruth.
  • The Nephilim - Jack - is played by Alexander Calvert.
  • Kim and Briana mentioned at Asylum 18 that something was in the works for Season 13, involving them. This was repeated at JIB con by Briana and she mentioned it would be “All four of us” and it might be Next year so, this could be in 2018. (x)
  • Richard Speight Jr. is once again directing 2 episodes.
  • Prep begins June 26. Now, I’m not sure if that means shooting starts the 10th or the 17th, but we’ll know by mid-June.
  • Jensen is NOT directing. It was the plan but he had to pull out because of the brewery opening. :(
  • Something for season 13 was already shot during the shooting of episode 22!
  • The writers returned to start work on the season on May 15.
  • The writing staff is unchanged from season 12: Andrew Dabb and Robert Singer are showrunners, writers: Brad Buckner and Eugenie Ross-Leming, Robert Berens, Meredith Glynn, Steve Yockey, Davy Perez, John Bring (writers assistant, occasional writer).
  • Should be 23 episodes.

If previous years are an indicator, Season 13 should premier on October 12. The day and timeslot - Thursday at 8pm, remains the same as the second half of season 12.
Supernatural was renewed for season 13 on January 8, 2017.
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Small tidbit from Jared's panel from JibCon8.
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Alexander Calvert will be playing the Nephilim "Jack" next season.
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Crowley seems to be TRULY dead. He will not appear on creation cons in 2018.

Mark Sheppard‏ @Mark_Sheppard 4 hours ago
So to all my #spnfamily everywhere... my crew and my fellow storytellers... thanks for the ride.… https://www.instagram.com/p/BUdUqF2lrZq/

Mark Sheppard‏ @Mark_Sheppard 1 hour ago
I will be appearing at plenty of conventions in 2018, just not creation ones.
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MONDAY, OCTOBER 9

8:00-9:00pm SUPERGIRL (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00pm VALOR (Series Premiere)

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 10

8:00-9:00pm THE FLASH (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00pm DC’S LEGENDS OF TOMORROW (Season Premiere)

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 11

8:00-9:00pm RIVERDALE (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00pm DYNASTY (Series Premiere)

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 12

8:00-9:00pm SUPERNATURAL (Season Premiere)

9:00-10:00pm ARROW (Season Premiere)

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 13

8:00-9:00pm CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00pm JANE THE VIRGIN (Season Premiere)
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From TV Line

Question: I’m fully aware it’s only June, but that’s not going to stop me from asking for a little fall preview on Supernatural. —Sam

Ausiello: Last month’s Supernatural finale definitely set the stage for an explosive Season 13, but you might want to rewatch an earlier episode for some clues about what’s in store for the Winchesters & Co. As you may recall, in the producers’ preview for Season 12’s “Ladies Drink Free,” executive producer Robert Singer revealed that the installment “very subtly tees up something that we’re going to revisit next [season].” So of course, we asked EP Andrew Dabb to elaborate. “That’s something we’re probably more comfortable talking about around Comic-Con,” he responded. “We have some really interesting things in the works.”
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Mark Pellegrino gets deep on Lucifer, ‘Supernatural,’ American Capitalist Party from movietvtechgeeks

In your opinion, what is the first thing Luci will do in Bizarro world – other than throw a tantrum?

Yeah – I mean, he’s stuck there with Mary, the Winchesters’ mom; so it’s a very interesting question. In this new, alternative universe seems to be sort of third base in Lucifer’s apocalyptic vision, right, so instead of having to go through any of the previous steps he’s got it right there. I think his first order of business is to revenge himself on the Winchesters. His primary goal is to hook up with his son and join forces with his son. Even though he’s been sort of handed the gift of an apocalyptic world where he can probably immediately take charge, he may be conceited enough to toss that option out the door and go for I want to remake this process from base 1 to base 2 to base 3 and then home plate in my own way and not be handed this gift. I think it’s taken care of Mary, use her as a hostage to get the Winchesters to open up that portal and join forces with his son.

Are there any hints you can give us about the fate of Cas, Crowley or Rowena?

You know, I can’t … and it’s not like I know. I am very interested in seeing where Andrew is going to take the next season. I can’t believe anybody’s dead, but they are. I’d like to see how they deal with the characters. I mean in my mind, Crowley is too smart a CEO not to have thought of every contingency there is out there, that’s the kind of guy he’s demonstrated himself to be. Rowena, I mean, he’s a chip off Rowena’s block. She has the same kind of wiliness and craftiness about her and I can’t imagine a witch has survived hundreds of years, gotten to the position that she’s gotten, without being extremely insightful about the way events can go. I can’t believe that she’s just a burned heap of red sequined dress in a classy hotel room. Cas especially, I mean – the one element in this whole formula that changes everything is this alternative universe. Who knows what kind of parallel elements are there besides Bobby? Is Jimmy in that universe? I don’t know. Is Rowena, in a different way? Is Fergus there? I don’t know. Anything goes. We’re in no man’s land – it’s unpredictable, that’s what I love about it.

Quite a few of my friends and I, we think that quite possibly the Castiel that actually sacrificed himself and Lucifer killed, wasn’t the Cas from the main reality, but is from the alternative reality.

How are you getting that?

The exchanges that he had with the boys and with Kelly, mostly … Before he went to the alter reality he was very much hands-on with regards to Lucifer’s child. I’ve taken dula classes, I’m going to deliver this baby, that sort of thing – afterward, he’s like standing at the door, kind of watching everything … there is one conversation that we never see the entirety of – it basically was, “Remember paradise,” or something like that … so it’s definitely a possibility.

Hmm. Wow. That’s interesting. I don’t know, I didn’t get that from anything, but you guys are awful creative and is this now public? I mean, have you guys theorized this stuff out loud?

Yes, there’s more than one of us, actually … there’s a lot of ideas, rationalizations … I don’t know if you follow anyone who was at JIBcon this last weekend …

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The thing with the nephilim, Jack, the other idea is that Jack actually comes upon the little video that Kelly makes for her son, who says well, you have an angel watching over you … and he finds Castiel dead and says, well, he’s supposed to taking care of me then I suppose I should revive him …

This is possible too. This is my greatest fear as Lucifer, is that the nephilim has an alliance, a real love for Cas, as opposed to his real father. It would sort of fit into that orphan template. One of the things I really love about Supernatural, I wrote in a forward to a book coming out about it, is that everybody’s an orphan; they’re not just family by blood, they are family by choice, by the values that you love. It would be quite a statement for the nephilim to reject his biological father in favor of Castiel, his spiritual father. It certainly speaks to what we consider fatherhood and would make us reconsider what those roles actually mean. I was hoping that Lucifer would actually become a better being by route through the fact that he had to take care of someone else. Instead of nurturing him to his own purposes, fatherhood can often be a game-changer for many man, and I was hoping it would be the same for an angel … in other words, Lucifer has an issue with his father; there’s no better way to learn how flawed your father is and love him in spite of it than being a father yourself. I was hoping; I don’t know if it’s good drama, but I was hoping fatherhood would teach Lucifer to repent and reconnect with his own father and understand that maybe dad wasn’t as bad as he thinks he is.

The nephilim is definitely another wildcard; he’d have the power to open the portal again, he can bring Lucifer out, he can do anything. It all depends on how he perceives all the principals. Does he perceive them as enemies, is Lucifer, his dad, an ally; I don’t know man, I’m going crazy!

Do you have any words of comfort for the fans of Castiel, Rowena or Crowley?

None. Nah, they’re going to have to sit in their pain until the first episode airs, and then maybe even beyond. I know the family, and I love them. I’m just being impish … if I did have words of encouragement, if I knew anything, maybe I would give the hint just give the fans a little bit of relief, but I don’t.Do you have any words of comfort for the fans of Castiel, Rowena or Crowley?

None. Nah, they’re going to have to sit in their pain until the first episode airs, and then maybe even beyond. I know the family, and I love them. I’m just being impish … if I did have words of encouragement, if I knew anything, maybe I would give the hint just give the fans a little bit of relief, but I don’t.
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From Supernatural Season 13 Spoiler sheet

The production office reopened on June 19.

Kim and Briana have seen a script from next season, and Kim tweeted to Kathryn Newton about seeing her “a lot” soon - this may be the Wayward Daughters episode we’ve all wanted. Considering that j2 said at Phoenix that they have not seen scripts yet, this may be a script from last season that was bumped to season 13.

Andrew Dabb hinted that something related to Claire may be revealed closer to San Diego Comic Con
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Supernatural Spinoff Wayward Sisters Starring Kim Rhodes Eyed at The CW

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The CW is taking another stab at a Supernatural spinoff, this one built around Kim Rhodes’ Sheriff Jody Mills.

According to Deadline, which first broke the news, the premise for the potential offshoot — tentatively titled Wayward Sisters — will be introduced in a Season 13 episode of Supernatural. Here’s the conceit: Sheriff Mills (played by Rhodes) and a group of troubled young women, all of them orphaned by supernatural tragedy, will team up as a supreme monster-fighting force.

“Unlike the original series, which centers on a biological brothers, Wayward Sisters is about a sisterhood of girls in a foster family,” Deadline reports.
The project is being shepherded by Supernatural writers-producers Andrew Dabb, Robert Singer, Phil Sgriccia, and Robert Berens.

Deadline speculates that two existing Supernatural characters, orphan Claire Novak and runaway Alex Jones, could be featured in the offshoot alongside Rhodes (whose character was first introduced in Season 5).

Back in 2014, The CW developed a Supernatural spinoff billed as a “sweeping drama about the mafia-esque monster families that, unknowingly to humans, run the underbelly of Chicago and who are being tracked by a newly minted Hunter.” Titled Supernatural: Bloodlines, the project never made it beyond a pilot.
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SUPERNATURAL Season 13.

Starts filming July 12th. Wraps April 19th.

Cast: Jared Padalecki, Jensen Ackles.

Premieres Thursday, October 12th at 8 p.m. on The CW.
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Was Orphan Black Off Its Clone Game? Another Wayward Sis for Supernatural? Twin Peaks Hint Pays Off? And More Qs

10 | Supernatural fans, wouldn’t it make sense for the potential spinoff Wayward Sisters to also include young hunter Krissy (played by Madison McLaughlin, aka Arrow‘s probably dead Artemis)?
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More on Casting for Supernatural Spinoff Wayward Sisters

Briana Buckmaster's agency announced that she is signed for Wayward Sisters
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Could it be?..

Adam Rose @RealAdamRose Jun 27
i'm gonna be returning to a show i've been on before...
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Huge CHARACTER spoiler for season 13 if it is true from IMDb.

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ETA: Nevermind. Casting spoilers have now been removed from IMDb.


More spoilers or a massive screw up or a big joke or all of the above from the IMDb pages for episodes 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 18, 21, 22, 23.

I wanted to check out the actor who plays Jack and saw he was already set up for episode 13.23 then checked to see who else might already be cast for that episode. What a surprise. See image below (hopefully).

Of course, then I had to see what other casting might already have been arranged for S13. Looks like SPN's writers are auditioning to write AU's for The Flash.

Check it out yourself, starting here.
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Jim Michaels‏ @TheJimMichaels Jul 4
And we are back! Season 13 pin! Thanks to Phil Sgriccia l! @cw_spn #SPNFamily #Supernatural
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Kevin Parks‏ @SNkevinandjill Jul 4
The start to Season 13! 1st concept meeting done and now scouting

Serge Ladouceur‏ @SergeLadouceur Jul 6
Supernatural has been part of my life for 12 years ... and it continues ... going on the survey bus tomorrow July 7th ... stay tuned
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Jason Fischer‏ @JasonFischer77 Jul 6
Loving our new #Supernatural hold music. Any thoughts on what our new song might be?

Jason Fischer‏ @JasonFischer77 17 hours ago
Since nobody guessed it, I'll let y'all know what we picked for our #Supernatural hold music to start this season.

Nazareth - This Flight Tonight

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Jason Fischer‏ @JasonFischer77 9 hours ago
Digging the new #Supernatural dash cards.
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Kevin Parks‏ @SNkevinandjill 17 hours ago
The best way to describe 13 years of #Supernatural! @SuperWiki @WinchesterBros @cw_spn @SPN_Fandom
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Adam Rose‏ @RealAdamRose Jun 27
just got some pretty amazing news

Adam Rose‏ @RealAdamRose Jun 27
i'm gonna be returning to a show i've been on before...

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I wonder......
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First Jim Michael's tweeted the S13 pin with Baby split down the middle.

Second there was the SPN Tape Ball Instagram of Jared alone tagged #birth (of the season's tape ball) and #new beginning and then
another Instagram of the S13 Pin along with used tape markers in Red, Yellow, Orange, Green and possibly Beige but no Blue tagged part tapeball part time machine.

Third Kevin Parks tweeted a picture of the of the location scene where Jared was filming that shows the edge of a hunter's funeral pyre in the bottom right of the frame.

Ominous and kind of exciting.
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  3. https://www.instagram.com/p/BWjOfLUAdfm/?taken-by=spntapeball
  4. https://twitter.com/SNkevinandjill/status/886072428316590080
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CarryOn_SPN. (2017, Jul 14). The ladies are getting ready to start gun training, fight training, and stunt driving for the spinoff. #SPNCHI #CHICON .

FangasmSPN. (2017, Jul 14). .@kimrhodes4real : got an email from Phil sgriccia with a Keanu gif in combat. I.e. get ready for combat training! #wayward #SPNCHI.

RipUpTheEnding. (2017, Jul 14). “Phil is the producer & wants them to start badass stunt training, but not change their bodies to fit a female stereotype. #ChiCon #SPNChi.

WinFamBusiness. (2017, Jul 14). They just got an email telling them to start prepping for stunt driving and fighting skills for #waywardSisters!

CarryOn_SPN. (2017, Jul 14). .@kimrhodes4real doesn’t know if the show will have trans representation, but she knows she has power to campaign for that. #SPNCHI #CHICON.
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Nothing else matters but Supernatural. Season 13 premieres October 12th at 8/7c on The CW. The Supernatural cast and executive producers rocked Comic-Con this year with this look back at season 12, edited to the iconic Metallica song “Nothing Else Matters.” Subscribe to tvpromosdb on Youtube for more Supernatural season 13 promos in HD!


Supernatural Season 12 Comic-Con Sizzle Reel Trailer (HD) by: tvpromosdb
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Wayward Sisters spoilers from Mashable!

Since Castiel died in the Season 12 finale, the other panelists had plenty of fun at Collins' expense (he entered the panel late, dragging his own smaller chair on stage), joking that he wouldn't be returning to the show. When asked what he'd been up to this season, Collins quipped, "You can’t plant tomatoes 'til July, so that’s what I’m getting into now."

Singer confirmed that Collins' Castiel would be returning — Padalecki even intimated that he should come back naked, but Dabb insisted, "I don’t know that we can afford the blur effects" — but they gave no further details about the circumstances surrounding the fan-favorite character's revival.

Cas isn't the only character who'll be back from the dead in Season 13 — in the apocalyptic alternate universe that Mary (Samantha Smith) and Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino) were transported to, Dabb promised, "some people who have been long dead on our show are still alive in apocalypse world and much different characters."

Back in the "real world," fan favorite Kansas psychic Missouri Moseley (Loretta Devine) will be back for the first time since Season 1.

The show also confirmed casting for the Supernatural spinoff Wayward Sisters — read the details about the characters (one of whom has a connection to Missouri) below:

Leading the group is Sioux Falls Sheriff Jody Mills (Kim Rhodes), an associate of Bobby Singer, who has grown to be one of Sam and Dean Winchester’s most trusted friends and allies. A foster mother to Claire Novak, Alex Jones and new character Patience Turner, Jody’s greatest challenge will be to prepare them for the battles ahead.

Lending Jody a hand will be series fan-favorite Sheriff Donna Hanscum (Briana Buckmaster), a relative novice to the hunter’s life, but a close friend who Jody can confide in.

Claire Novak (Kathryn Newton) was introduced to the supernatural world when her father became the vessel for the angel Castiel (series star Misha Collins). Now, a gifted hunter, she lives with Jody, but struggles against her rules.

Also taken in under Jody’s wing, Alex Jones (Katherine Ramdeen) was rescued by the Winchesters from a family of vampires who used her as a lure for unsuspecting humans. Traumatized by the violence, she has resolved not to hunt…until a threat emerges in Sioux Falls that threatens her new family.

A new member of the Wayward Sisterhood is the character Patience Turner (Clark Backo), a high school over-achiever whose life is turned upside down when she discovers she’s a powerful psychic, a gift she inherited from her estranged grandmother (and Season 1 Supernatural character) Missouri Moseley. Hunted by dark forces for her power, Patience finds refuge with Jody and her wayward family.
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Even for Supernatural, the season finale was dark: shocking deaths, disappearances, a hellish alternate Earth. Will next season be close to a reboot? Yes. I’m not sure we’ve had a finale that has the body count and kind of ramifications that this one had. The Lucifer story became a setup for what we want to explore in Season 13. We’ve delved into alternate realities before, but we’re taking it to an extreme.

What are some of those explorations? What does it mean that Jack (Alexander Calvert) is Lucifer’s kid and Mary and Lucifer are together in the alt Apocalypse World? Plus Castiel, [former Hell king] Crowley (Mark A. Sheppard) and [his mom] Rowena (Ruth Connell) all appear to be dead. That’s fertile ground for next season.

Are these beloved characters really dead and gone? No one’s ever really dead on Supernatural, but I’m not saying that any of them will necessarily be back—at least for a while.
Sam and Dean must care for the motherless Jack. Are they intent on siphoning his angel grace to make the incredibly powerful Nephilim more human? That’s the question, because if they [do], he’ll lose his power and be unable to open the door to get Mary back. The guys may have some conflict over that.

Will we quickly learn whether Jack is evil like his father? He had an evil source, but he’s a blank slate. It’s a nature-nurture thing. If Season 12 was about children coming to terms with their moms as adults, then Season 13 is very much about Sam and Dean as parents.

The Apocalypse World that Lucifer and Mary are trapped in is anything but paradise. On the other hand, long-dead family friend Bobby Singer (Jim Beaver) is there as a hunter! The fun thing about the alternative Earth is that it allows us to bring back a lot of characters in ways that are not pure. Every other Supernatural character could theoretically have an entirely new life there. We’re going to have a war zone unlike anything we’ve seen.
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Supernatural doesn’t technically have a theme song, but if it did, it’d be “Carry On My Wayward Son” by Kansas, which is why, on Sunday, the San Diego Comic-Con panel kicked off with a performance from the band.

Kansas just performed at the #Supernatural panel! pic.twitter.com/rknYsWEBb0

— Natalie Abrams (@NatalieAbrams) July 23, 2017




Moderators Rob Benedict and Richard Speight Jr. then took the stage to moderate the panel with stars Jensen Ackles, Jared Padalecki, and Misha Collins, as well as executive producers Bob Singer and Andrew Dabb.

First up, Collins addressed Castiel’s “death,” to which he simply promised fans, “I’m not going away.”

Moving to the question of Jack, Lucifer’s Nephilim, Ackles talked about how the Winchesters will react to this new being. As he put it, Sam and Dean will handle things “differently … In Dean’s mind, [Jack] just simply has to go.” But because Sam is ever the optimist, he won’t necessarily agree with Dean’s more practical approach. As Padalecki said, “Jack is half-Lucifer but he’s also half-Kelly Cline.” So expect Sam to disagree with Dean’s “shoot first, ask questions later” attitude.

But Jack isn’t the only thing Sam and Dean are going to butt heads about. When it comes to Mary, Singer said, “Dean thinks she’s gone.” And because of that, Dean is trying to accept that and move on, whereas Sam is “holding onto the fact that she could still be alive. That’s a problem between the guys.” Singer added, “Spoiler alert: Mom is not dead.”

And although she’s not dead, Mary is currently in a post-apocalyptic world with Lucifer, and seeing as how Bobby — or at least a version of him — appeared in that world in the season 12 finale, Dabb said there’s hope to see more characters return… both in the real world and in the new one. “Some people who have been long dead on our show are less dead in [the] apocalyptic world,” Dabb said, adding that they will be “much different characters.”

For the final question, a fan asked which character would make a good spin-off, to which Dabb pointed to the potential new Wayward Sisters show and said, “We feel they would make an extremely exciting addition to the Supernatural universe.” A backdoor pilot for the series, featuring fan-favorites Kim Rhodes and Briana Buckmaster, is expected to air during season 13. Kathryn Newton, Katherine Ramdeen, and Clark Backo will also appear.
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From Supernaturalwiki Season 13 spoilers from Comic-Con 2017

At its core it’s a more personal season than the last one - Bob Singer

Dean is convinced that Mary is dead, and will be initially unable to process the enormity of his grief over the loss of her and Cas. Other than praying to God for help, he will deal with things by being angry and trying to take action. Unfortunately, the first target in his sights its Jack, and Dean thinks he is so potentially dangerous he should be killed.

Sam represses his feelings of grief as well, particularly by focusing on Jack. He will be more optimistic about Jack, and his potential humanity. He also sees something of his self in Jack – as he was also the child with demon blood who was meant to be evil. He may have some fear that Dean’s attitude to Jack reflects a deep-seated lingering attitude to himself.
Sam points out of course that Jack is possibly the only way to open the rift the other realm.

The Brothers
As we saw last season, the brothers’ relationship has evolved to where they are in a much more stable and cooperative phase of their relationship. They do still argue about how to get things done -such as dealing with Jack.
Both the boys will inevitably need to deal with their feelings at some point.

Castiel
When Cas does come back, we find him in a realm that’s been talked about but never seen. He finds himself alone in this realm with only one other companion – another powerful (and handsome) being.
Cas’ death doesn’t shake Cas that much but it is hugely important for the impact it has on the boys
Cas is finally coming to accept that he does belong with the Winchesters, he trusts that now, and its reciprocal.

The Alternate World
We will see how introducing elements of our world into it, and vice versa, changes each world.
There will be versions of characters there who have died in our world.
Mary is alive.

Watch out for …
The cosmic consequences of Billy the reapers death.
There is a character called Michael in this season but not the Michael you think.
There will be some fallout from the British Men of Letters – they have had some influence on the boys, and they wont have been forgotten.
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Supernatural Season 13 Spoiler Sheet!

General stuff
Castiel will eventually be reunited with the boys, and Jack, by episode 6.
We will see Cas is another realm that’s been discussed but never mentioned, interacting with another new character played by a “handsome” actor.
Dean will be deep into grieving for Cas and Mary, as he thinks Mary is dead. Sam is less broken up, and thinks Mary is alive.
Sam and Dean will clash over Jack. Dean wants to kill him, Sam wants to help him and maybe use him to get Mary back.
Episode 11 will be similar to “the vessel” in that it will be an ambitious scale.
Misha has read scripts that have Cas elements that will be challenging.
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From Digital Spy Misha Collins reveals first details of Castiel's resurrection in Supernatural season 13

"Cas – when he does come back as more than a lifeless body – we find him in a realm that we've talked about on Supernatural before but have never seen," he revealed. "He finds himself alone in this realm with only one other companion, who is another powerful being, played by a great actress."

In the interim, Collins said that Castiel's absence will have a profound impact on the Winchester brothers.

"The most relevant aspect of Castiel's death, this time, is how the boys process it. Ultimately, as the season plays out, Castiel's death is gonna be less important for him then it is for the boys, who go through the grieving process and really have to deal with the loss of their friend."
Dean Winchester in 'Supernatural' season 12

Jensen Ackles revealed to us that Dean in particular will struggle with the loss of Castiel, and Crowley (Mark Sheppard), and Kelly (Courtney Ford) – damn, that was a tough finale.

"The exact moment we left off – literally with Cas at Dean's feet – is where we show up at the beginning of season 13," Ackles said. "It's interesting, 'cause Mom is gone and presumably dead, Crowley just killed himself, Cas is now lying dead at Dean's feet. Kelly's gone... it's too much for Dean to process at that moment.

"So he does the thing that he knows how to do best and that is neutralise the threat – as in, Lucifer's son – so he's just gonna do that, 'cause that's something that he can hit. There's too much emotion, he doesn't know how to process, so he's just gonna do what he knows and that's hit something – hard."
Dean and Sam Winchester in 'Supernatural'

Dean's behaviour will lead to a "struggle" between him and Sam (Jared Padalecki): " It's certainly not going back to the seasons when they were really at odds. It's more of, 'Let's figure out how to handle this situation' – Sam wants to deal with it one way, Dean wants to deal with it another.

"They're not gonna argue about it, they're gonna eventually get to the same place... it's just how they get there is a little different. But at some point, Dean's gonna have to deal with [his grief] and that'll be probably a pretty hard episode."
Chuck Shurley in 'Supernatural'

In his turmoil, Dean will even turn to God – which means something quite different in the Supernatural universe.

"Once he realises the severity of the situation, he tries to reach out to God, who as we all know is gone. But he figures he'll take a stab at it."

Could God / Chuck Shurley (Rob Benedict) be the latest SPN favourite to make a comeback in season 13? We've got everything crossed...
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From TVLine Supernatural EP Teases 'New' Big Bad (and No, It's Not Lucifer's Spawn)

As if the arrival of Lucifer’s offspring — not to mention, the losses of pal Castiel, mom Mary and frenemy Crowley — wasn’t enough for the Winchesters to contend with, Supernatural is also pitting Dean and Sam against a familiar enemy in Season 13.

“[Lucifer’s child] Jack is not the biggest threat they are dealing with,” executive producer Andrew Dabb revealed during a San Diego Comic-Con interview. While the EP declined to identify which evildoer gets that special title, he hinted that “it’s an old — let’s call him friend — who we have not seen for many years.”
The mysterious foe “probably is not currently in our world,” Dabb added. “He [is] from the alternate world,” where some of the show’s deceased characters are still alive and kicking.

Could the Big Bad be the archangel Michael, who was trapped in Lucifer’s cage during Season 5 and, last we heard, driven mad? “I’ll plead the fifth on that one,” Dabb responded.
Whoever the returning player is, he “will create many, many problems” for Dean and Sam. (We wouldn’t expect anything less.)
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Spoiler article link: Titles for Supernatural Season 13 Episodes 1-9 and 16

Titles added to 10 episodes:

Supernatural - Episode 13.01 - Lost and Found
Supernatural - Episode 13.02 - The Rising Sun
Supernatural - Episode 13.03 - Patience
Supernatural - Episode 13.04 - The Big Empty
Supernatural - Episode 13.05 - Advanced Thanatology
Supernatural - Episode 13.06 - Tombstone
Supernatural - Episode 13.07 - War of the Worlds
Supernatural - Episode 13.08 - The Scorpion and the Frog
Supernatural - Episode 13.09 - The Bad Place

Supernatural - Episode 13.16 - ScoobyNatural
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“Supernatural” Going Smaller With Season 13

The tenth season saw Death himself killed, the eleventh season dealt with God and his sister, and the twelfth season chucked in the sadistic British Men of Letters along with Lucifer’s return and his son and an alternate dimension.

Executive producer Robert Singer tells Cinema Blend that the plan for S13 is to return the focus to the core family-brothers dynamic of the early seasons:

“Deliberately we’re not doing like, I mean last year was pretty big with the British Men of Letters and the whole sort of organizational thing and all that, and this year we made a conscious effort that we wanted to go a little smaller and more personal so with mom in the apocalypse world with Lucifer and the boys having to deal with Satan’s son we thought there would be a lot of emotional possibilities and that’s kind of what we wanted to play with this year. Last year was about bringing the family back together, this year is what do you do when your family gets blown apart.”

The new season of “Supernatural” premieres Thursday October 12th.
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Supernatural Season 13: Who will open the rift from the alternate world?

Someone in the alternate world is expected to open the rift in Supernatural Season 13. Just who could it be?

Supernatural showrunner Robert Singer revealed more than it initially seemed about Season 13 at SDCC 2017. Hidden Remote learned that someone in the rift world will be part of the process of opening the rift again to get Mary out of that alternate world. The big question now is who that will be.

There are a few clues from the interview. Singer shared that it would be someone the show is bringing back and in that world. Unfortunately that means it can’t be John Winchester, as he is already confirmed dead in that world. This is a world where the Winchesters were never born, as it seems Mary never made a deal with Azazel for John’s life.

Could it be an archangel?

Fans already have theories about who will come back. Michael is a firm favorite at the moment, with fans crying out for Adam to come back as his vessel. This wouldn’t really be possible, as without John alive there would be no Adam Milligan either. However, that doesn’t stop Michael from coming into the show in some way. He would certainly be powerful enough to open a rift in time, and would likely want to get rid of the Lucifer from the Winchester’s world if he is around.

There are other archangels that are probably still alive in the rift world. Gabriel would be the easiest to bring back, as Richard Speight Jr. is still involved in Supernatural. The AU Lucifer would be another excellent option, opening the rift to get rid of his alternate self to avoid upsetting some sort of balance.

“When we go to the Rift World, it’s really about, ‘How to we get out of here?’ There’s one character that we’re bringing back in a really interesting way that is going to try to help open the Rift to their world.”

–Robert Singer, Supernatural EP

Will we see Rowena again?

Another theory is that Rowena could be the one to open it. While her fate in the real world is unknown, the rift world Rowena is likely still alive. She may have a hand in opening the rift from the alternate world.

This could work with Mary currently trapped in that world. She would look up people who have helped them in the real world, and Rowena is certainly one of them. Alternatively, Lucifer could be the one to pay Rowena a visit. He will want to get back to the real world with his son, and will turn to one of the most powerful witches he knows. Let’s just hope he doesn’t tell this Rowena that he possibly turned the other Rowena into charcoal.

Could Ruby or another demon play a part?

Demons are commonly overlooked. They’ve become slightly mediocre in recent years, but Singer said that a character is coming back in a “really interesting way.” This would suggest a character that we haven’t seen for a while. Ruby would certainly fit the bill and would be possible. After all, Ruby 2.0 was played by Jared Padalecki’s wife, Genevieve, and Ruby 1.0 is currently filming Arrow next door!

Another theory is that Bela Talbot could return. She would have made the same hell deal in this rift world and could certainly return as a demon. We’d need a new actress to play her, as Lauren Cohen is currently in The Walking Dead and Bela’s real body would have decayed too much now. With her interest in artefacts and new demonic powers, she may have enough to open the rift.
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Supernatural: Season 13; The 100 Actress to Guest on CW Series

Chelsey Reist will appear on another CW series this upcoming season. Recently, it was announced the 100 star will guest on season 13 of Supernatural.

Reist plays Harper McIntyre on The 100 and will continue to star on the post-apocalyptic drama through season five. The actress has also appeared on Cedar Cove and Psych.

It’s unclear what role Reist will be playing on the new season of Supernatural, but season 13 premieres on The CW on October 12th at 8 p.m. ET/PT.

LLA Talent‏ @LLATalent Aug 15
@ChelseyReist will appear on @cw_spn and is of course keeping busy on the set of @cwthe100 #llaSLAY
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