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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Threads: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap"
Jan 21, 2020 | 23:52 pmInvisible to God?No, it’s never been said.I think it’s curious seeing as Chuck has already expressed to Sam and Dean his dislike for Billie getting involved yet he isnt concerned with the fact that she is still out there.Somewhere. Death[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice's Review: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap" aka Not My Heroes' Journey
Jan 21, 2020 | 23:16 pmWe still have to go with "writers lie" though. Lilith told Dean that all the endings were the same, one brother kills the other. But that didn't happen in the last vision Chuck showed Sam. So what is true and[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice's Review: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap" aka Not My Heroes' Journey
Jan 21, 2020 | 22:31 pmI get that Chuck is telling Sam that he is the one holding back the monsters from taking over the earth but since "writers lie" how can Sam/we know if that is even true? We can't trust anything we/the characters[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice's Review: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap" aka Not My Heroes' Journey
Jan 21, 2020 | 21:52 pmI think Chuck still wants the one Winchester kills the other ending. What he showed Sam was a future without him around, where both of them die undignified deaths as monsters. They are still his favorite characters, and he wants[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice's Review: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap" aka Not My Heroes' Journey
Jan 21, 2020 | 21:48 pmWell, no. Dean found out from Lilith that Chuck likes an ending where one of the Winchesters kills the other. Dean tells Sam that, and Sam reveals what he thinks he's been seeing Chuck's alternate endings for them, which involved[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap"-- Love and Lies
Jan 21, 2020 | 20:51 pmActually, I think the vision Chuck showed Sam was completely real.I don't think it was the only possible outcome had they locked Chuck away, but I think he chose the most devastating one.Also, as he points out, the actual fates[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap"-- Love and Lies
Jan 21, 2020 | 20:37 pmBerens as a writer was better off when he could pitch in semi-standalone eps, rather than the more serialized episodes he's done recently. I was psyched to see Billie and Jack at the end, though.
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice's Review: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap" aka Not My Heroes' Journey
Jan 21, 2020 | 20:30 pmThat's a really good point about Sam and Eileen.
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Threads: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap"
Jan 21, 2020 | 19:45 pmLol...
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Threads: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap"
Jan 21, 2020 | 19:40 pmWell, I am NOT getting a life! 😤
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Threads: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap"
Jan 21, 2020 | 19:30 pmMichael killed Gabriel in the AU at the end of S13. After he killed Asmodeus he came back to help the Winchesters rescue Mary and Jack. He didn't make it back. I think he is dead dead now.Who knows how[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Threads: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap"
Jan 21, 2020 | 19:25 pmMaybe the ENTIRE vision that Chuck showed to Sam was a trap! A trap to make him loose hope? There's so many traps in this episode haha
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Threads: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap"
Jan 21, 2020 | 19:24 pmActually, Gabriel is still alive... he killed Asmodeus last season, and then took off for Parts Unknown.I also just realized that there were originally 4 Archangels: Michael Lucifer Raphael and Gabriel. So I would guess the 5 would be God[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice's Review: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap" aka Not My Heroes' Journey
Jan 21, 2020 | 18:52 pmIn show, they never explain what happened with Bobby after that. Outside of the show, at a con when asked by a fan what happened to Bobby, Singer explained he was probably sent to Heaven's jail.
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice's Review: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap" aka Not My Heroes' Journey
Jan 21, 2020 | 18:51 pmDean's the only one that went to Hell before Heaven. And that is easily explained as Chuck letting him in in order for Joshua to relay a message to Sam and Dean.Castiel absorbed the souls Crowley gave him, like with[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice's Review: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap" aka Not My Heroes' Journey
Jan 21, 2020 | 18:48 pmWell, for Bobby considering God put the rescue a soul from Hell into the trials. That's what gave Bobby a pass. Sam rescued Bobby, started the incantation, got interrupted by Crowley finished it as that's what should have gotten Bobby[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice's Review: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap" aka Not My Heroes' Journey
Jan 21, 2020 | 17:59 pmI swear its hard keeping track sometimes. I forgot no one knows Chuck wants one of them dead (he implied one grave stone at Becky's house). My head hurts.
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Threads: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap"
Jan 21, 2020 | 17:54 pmI'm wondering if I missed one trap when I listed all the ones I perceived in the episode. Maybe the ENTIRE vision that Chuck showed to Sam was a trap! It's doomsday scenario played on Sam's empathy for others (the[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice's Review: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap" aka Not My Heroes' Journey
Jan 21, 2020 | 17:36 pmThe only area I disagree with your review is the Sam Eileen kiss, which I was totally unconvinced by. I loved Eileen when she was first introduced, was really angry at the naff way they killed her off, but her[…]
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Re: The Winchester Family Business - Alice's Review: Supernatural 15.09 "The Trap" aka Not My Heroes' Journey
Jan 21, 2020 | 17:31 pmIn the beginning of the season I thought the goal was for Sam and Dean to kill each other, in AU's one kills the other, they both died as vampires etc. I think what Chuck wants is to throw insurmountable[…]
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