Joelsteinlover, thank you so much for your elaborate comment. That poem is one of my favourites, and I agree many lines of it are fitting... For me the idea of love that prevails was predominant here -as love is the force behind it all, in so many facets and colours. so, 'If lovers be lost, love shall not.' And the notion that even though they've pretty much lost their sanity, they will heal, eventually. That is my hope for the characters. All of them. All are scarred.

I have read some comments elsewhere too, with fans bitching about this episode, and I could hardly believe it, either. I'm happy that you were 'able to forget' those comments reading this.

This show touches each one of us who dare to look behind the action, the gore or the pretty faces, I'd say. we have different stories that are woken by it, and it takes a show of high quality to achieve that - to bind so many various people to a story so simple, yet so complex.

don't worry, choosing is not necessary. We're entirely entitled to love one moment today, the other moment tomorrow and love all the moments at once...

thank you. I appreciate your comment so much. Jas

Jas, you have such a wonderful way with words. Your feelings and emotions were pretty much the same as mine.
My family and many friends have all gone now, and seeing Dean bereft of his family and friends kneeling on the ground beside his baby brought back those devastating emotions that prevail at those times.

Those that complain they missed a great battle between the archangels just don't get what this show has been about since the pilot. It's about family and love and everything else is mere trappings in order to tell the story. And what a story has been told by the master in five seasons and 104 episodes. Kripke, you are a genius and this finale was everything I could have hoped for (with the exception of the doubts surrounding the image of Sam at the end). But then you have to leave us something to debate about through the hellatus, don't you?

So happy to see that Jim Beaver has told us that Bobby will certainly be back next season. Thank God for that!

It's good to know there are many people like you Jas, who do understand the point of this TV Show and appreciate the subtle and wonderful ways it is presented to us. I've only seen one negative comment about it on this very site, and am certainly staying away from those other shallow places where you only find bitching no matter what is presented to them.

We are so blessed to have had these two awesome young actors portraying these amazing and endearing characters.
And the love between Dean and Sam seems to have extended itself unto Jensen and Jared, and made their performances almost unbelievably realistic. I love that they are such good friends themselves.

Jas ,
That was beautiful.
You were so right , about everything , Thank you Ju

Thanks, Jas. Your words were very comforting. My father passed away in December, and I think, at least subconsciously, I was not making the connection of why "Swan Song" had such an impact on me. After having ridden along with Sam and Dean for five years, I thought I was prepared for just about anything; but, after several days distance, I am still feeling a bit overcome. I suppose only great art can do that. That, and two actors named Jared and Jensen. The way Jared delivered the line: "It's okay Dean. It's going to be okay. I've got him." made me gasp. I instantly flashed back to the young Dean carrying baby Sam out of their burning home and saying, "It's okay, Sam. It's going to be okay. I've got you."

I'm so grateful that the road will go on; but, for me, "Swan Song" will remain the most beatuiful--dare I say haunting--concl usion to the Winchester story.

I've reading the comments ever since Swan Song, and then I'd get all emotional, and couldn't express what I wanted to say. Jeez!
I've believed all along that Sam couldn't kill Dean any more than Dean could kill Sam, and what ever crap they went through in their lives, they survived it because they had each other.
One of the initial aspect of the show that attracted me was the road trip, the car, the driving. Why? I'm an airforce brat.Now some of you won't know what I mean, but there are others that are saying, yeah, that's it exactly. The constant transfers, the road trips to the new place where you knew nobody and only had each other, having everything you really needed in the car, because the rest was in storage for months. That was my life growing up. No wonder I connected to the Winchesters.
So Sam couldn't kill Dean, no matter how much Lucifer wanted to, and to me it was an "of course" moment that all those memories were stored in the car.
I think Dean knew that Sam's shot of taking control was to remember who he was. Dean had seen Bobby take control during demon possession, but it wasn't a one in a million fluke, he'd seen his father do it with Yellow eyes back in Season 1 (so did Sam, I think that's where he got the idea). That why Dean had to keep trying, despite how stupid everyone seemed to think it was.
Two other things I thought were neat that nobody's mentioned yet: how hard the demons had to work at corralling Sam, all those demons watching him and prodding him, I guess evil didn't come as naturally to Sam as they wanted him to believe And the other thing: Michael had as much contempt for humanity as Lucifer, I guess that's why he ended up in the pit, too. Only Cas and Gabriel learned to love people.
As for the end,I don't think Dean will be able to stay with Lisa long. He's a hunter, he can't pretend to be blind. Even if Sam tries to leave him alone, one day Dean will see a job he can't ignore and he'll do it. And that will be the end of the apple pie life that Dean never fit into, even in his dreams.

Jas, you made me cry.
I don't know what to say more, for you have said it all.
Thank you so much for sharing!

Love,
Lara

Sorry for the double post, didn't know it got through the 1st time :|

Hey I recognise that poem! And so cool that someone else linked the video too

OK. I was alright reading your article until I got to the part where you wrote about Dean saying that he was not going to let Sam die alone, and I just started getting choked up again. And then as I read what the episode meant to you personally and to some of the other commenters I was tearing up - that’s a first for me while reading an article on this site. You are amazingly honest and I love the way you use language. Thank you so much for sharing.

For me I have to say that family is a difficult entity, experience, evolution…I think that is one of the reasons I love Supernatural so much. It makes me look at myself and my own relationships. I identify so much with Sam when it comes to family – his relationship with John is so familiar. But then again so much of what Dean says and feels are thoughts in my own head. And I cannot imagine the level of guilt he is going through sitting at that dining table at the end of Season 5…

I don’t think Chuck was always God though – am dying to find out the significance of him suddenly cleaning up and wearing the white shirt at the end. I am interested too in the Chuck disappearance – the manner in which he disappeared was certainly not angelic – more Trickster-like. God is the ultimate Trickster?

So the brothers Winchester are apart – I wonder if that last supper we witnessed of Dean’s was the same day he arrived at Lisa’s or was it some time after. But as the man says ‘death shall have no dominion’…S am is back – but will he reveal himself immediately or watch for a while longer? How has he changed? Will Dean stay with Lisa or keep ramblin’ on. And if so what will he do? What will be his motivation to get up in the morning…and if he stays will he ever fully be 100% there until he has Sammy fully back? We have to hang on to the almost reunion over these summer months.

I am so glad that Kripke got up one day and decided to write the Winchester Gospels. I am also glad that I discovered them and was converted ? The Supernatural experience is layer upon layer and each episode and each month brings something more - phenomenal mythology with both big and small M, movie-quality production week in and week out including a soundtrack that has enhanced every episode, two brothers who captivate our imaginations so much that we get angry with them as if they were real, two actors who are such genuine, funny, charming, attractive and genuinely all round good human beings (and lovely to look at), supporting characters that we love or love to hate, supporting cast that we love, and a fandom that while partially bats**t crazy and occasionally disturbing also hosts islands of sanity like this site and brings people together across the world at conventions and on websites, to share their lives, their thoughts and their love for this freakin’ phenomenal show!

I know I am going to be complaining about the length of the hiatus soon. But right now it almost seems fitting to acknowledge Sam’s sacrifice to save the world and Dean’s sacrifice to support that and then go on living…but it is also feels right to take some time to acknowledge Eric Kripke’s swan song, his departure and the five years he has given us. The finale started us off on that journey of reflection and these summer days and nights at TWFB will I am sure make for fascinating reading and discussion. Thank you Jas for starting us off with such empathy and eloquence.

Hey, magichappening and Evelyn, your comments are so great and moving, thank you!

Magichappening, I can relate to your words regarding family. I think it is one of the most difficult relationships, as they are the people who have known us all our lives and there's no way of fooling them, as they know us often inside and out.

I've been also thinking about what will happen to Dean now after this ordeal, in fact I just sent an article to Alice yesterday, because I couldn't stop thinking about it.

Kripke gave us something great here, I agree wholeheartedly. I will always be grateful for this. Apart from this show that is so full of amazing facets, it brought us together here, to discuss the various aspects in a respectful and creative manner - and for me this show has been inspiring on so many levels. And - while getting into writing about it, it also improved my English, which I just love!

Thank you so much for you compliment to my writing. I'm deeply moved. It's great to hear that, who am I trying to fool? I can't be entirely cool about it.

Evelyn, I do agree with all my heart - the relationship of the brothers is the core of this show. Many of us find aspects of our own family relationships there, and though all that drama is fascinating to watch, and within these characters' world authentic and 'realistic', I also love it when I see them trusting each other again.

Both have grown beyond their own expectations. And, of course, the cemetery scene broke my heart... with pain for the brothers but also with joy that in the end there is love. Devastating as it can be.

It might be cheesy to some people, but it has never been to me. I'm a big advocate for love. Not only that between a man and a woman, but that we feel every day or give every day with our friends, when smiling to the salesperson at the grocery store, the postman... I think that's what keeps us going as human beings - respect and love in whatever way. And this show portrays it wonderfully, don't you think?

Thank you, Evelyn, for acknowledging my writing, too. I'm happy I could contribute to the connection here you point out so beautifully.

Take good care, Jas

Hi Jasminka
Once again beautifully written.
This episode for me was flawless. And yes it was all about Family.
That bond, that undying love, that no matter how angry or disappointed you may get, you can never really stop caring.
I don’t know how anyone watching this show, could not fall in love with these characters, not care what happens to them, not want to root for them, not defend them. The Supernatural world may not be real, but what these characters represent is very real. They feel as we do, they laugh, joke, tease, cry, get angry, get scared and they love as we do.
And it’s because of this we were able to relate to one or all of the characters that have shown up on our screen each week. Although they are hero’s in our eyes, they are also human, they are flawed, they make mistakes, loose faith and trust, but they also forgive and redeem themselves as we do.
Thanks again Jas!

Haven’t been able to keep up here as well as I’d like, so I’m just catching up, Jas, but love reading your thoughts and insights. Yeah, that scene in the warehouse totally gave me chills: “Oh my God, they just strung up a couple of people . . .” And after Sam says yes, Lucifer tells Dean, “I was just messing with you.” But I wonder if he was . . . it looked to me like there was a change in his face before he turned around, like he was just gaining control. Makes me think perhaps that really was Sam at the beginning there . . . The parallels between Michael/Lucifer and Dean/Sam were nicely done, I thought. Love, love,love that even as his world is coming apart Dean doesn’t lose his snarky.

You’re so right, there’s something about Supernatural. I’ve wondered why this story gets under my skin the way it does . . . Those feelings of connection, love, loneliness, loss are common to all of us. “Good stories are supposed to move us, be an echo of the personal experiences that draw us in.” And thank you for sharing the Dylan Thomas poem; it was perfect.

ElenaM, Evelyn, hi ladies!

I'm charmed, ElenaM, thank you - this episode was indeed a remarkable one and I tried to do it justice, I hope I achieved that.

Evelyn, you are totally there with Karen and myself - we will simply continue to love this show as we have done before. It will continue to touch us.

Thank you, Jas

Thank you, Supernarttu, you don't have to say more. I know what you feel. You honour me.
Love, Jas

First article of yours, and of this site, that I've read. Actually had to come back again so I could comment.

So, SO, glad to have found you! I'm the only fan of the show I know, and the refrain 'just a tv show' keeps me guilty of the time I spend watching. No more!!!! Usually avoid these sort of sites and message boards for the not so nice comments often posted. But it seems different here.

Your writing is amazing and insightful. I'm a psych minor and working on my major in Social Work with a desire toward counseling. So your comments and insights make me feel as If I’ve entered my dream lecture hall. Yea!

I've now read quite a few of your posts and what I've found is complete enjoyment in making Sam and Dean a sort of case study. From a standpoint other than that of a fan, what a relief to see examples whose names and faces I know. Connecting the dots becomes easier without the need to worry about protecting the client’s privacy. That might sound horrid, but it's nice to read an open discussion on damaged psyches that I know don't exist. (Other than my own Kripked one.)

That said, it is also a relief to read the love you pour into the boys. It somehow helps validate my own rather absurd care I have for those two. It is just a tv show. But in Swan Song I found myself really affected. Truly. I grieved for Sam, past turning off the show.

Looking forward to more of your writing and checking out some of the other talents on this site.

Oh…one last silly note. I’ve never been a Sam or Dean girl. My love was equally distributed. But after the finale I think I rather fell in love with Sam. As I’ve read that you’re a Sam girl, thought I’d share.

Yvonne, welcome to this site! And to this article of mine (and the others you've read, as you said, wow, thanks), how generous of you to share your impressions and personal thoughts, thank you so much!

You’re right about the manner of the posts here. I have looked at other sites in the past, too, and didn’t like the sometimes incredibly rude way of commenting, but here it’s different. For the most part, it’s nothing but fun-loving, relaxed, a bit insane, but always respectful and intelligent discussion of the show and its characters. I love that – and I owe a big thank you to every one who raises his voice here and to Alice who made it all possible.
This is indeed a safe haven to talk and go crazy about our favourite show.

I feel honoured to have invited you to a ‘lecture hall’… What I always loved about the show is its psychological reality and continuity and the perfect acting of it. They react like people under that circumstances would react, given their specific nature, and I love that, because it makes the story credible – you rarely find that on other shows in this marvellous way.
I’d like to invite you – dear colleague – to read some of the other articles I’ve written about the guys’ psyches, you might find those enjoyable.

I’m past the feeling-insane- for-caring-that -much-about-a-t v-show. You don’t need that, either. As long as we’re clear that it is indeed a tv show and don’t confuse it with reality, we’re safe.

Good stories are supposed to affect us.

Why else read a book or watch a movie? I think to be able and open to allow yourself to be affected and moved can enhance our lives. It brings more facets and colour to it. It’s not much of a difference here than looking at a magnificent painting. My life is richer for having seen the Mona Lisa once or van Gogh’s Starry Night. It is also richer for having watched this show – it’s fun, it broadens our horizon in some way and it moves us. And I've met so many sweet, kind and bright people here on this site and in real life (e.g. at the Con in L.A., or Alice in D.C.) who make my life richer and more colourful with constructive criticism, a comment like yours or the occasional advice. Or just the plain silly humour we share sometimes. It's another facet of my life, but one I don't want to live without anymore. It adds beautifully to the other aspects in my life I need. Just love it...
No need to feel guilty at all.

About that ‘silly note’, hehehe, don’t worry. Even though I consider myself a SamGirl, I’ve never disliked Dean. He would be the brother I’d like to have, Sam, well, there’s a different matter.


Thank you, please come back! All my best, Jas