Let’s Speculate: Season Six Finale and Onward to Season 7
Warning!!!! If you haven’t seen the season finale of “Supernatural,” don’t read this! Seriously, just back away now because you really want to stay spoiler free for this one, folks. I’m going to be talking about the cliffhanger ending, among other things, so PLEASE, don’t go any further if you haven’t seen the episode.
One more warning. This is your last chance! Here there be monsters! Okay, onward to the speculation.
The Castiel Situation
Not gonna lie, I did not see this one coming. I thought for sure the transformation was going to be Cass losing his grace and going human. But this. This is amazing. Now, I adore Cass and am going to miss him terribly because this new pseudo-God Cass is Castiel, not Cass, and there is a huge difference. With all that power in him, he is not the angel we love anymore. That angel is gone for now, though I hope to see him back. But I absolutely cannot wait to see where this is going. I think Cass is going to be their new antagonist, at least for a little while, and I wonder how long they are going to keep that going. Maybe it will be like a Sam’s soul situation and he’ll be a baddie for half the season and then will get fixed somehow and will have to help clean up his mess in the second half of the season. Regardless, Sam, Dean, and Bobby are royally screwed now because Cass knows all their secrets, all their habits. They can’t call him when they need help. I can’t decide if I think they are going to be hunting him all season a la season 1 with the YED hunt or if they will be on the run from him all season a la season 5 and Lucifer. Whatever, bring it on. I’m really looking forward to season 7, so Hellatus, you better pass by quickly!
Also, now that Cass has opened the gate to purgatory and harvested its souls, where are the souls of dead monsters going to go now? Will they go right to Cass or will he have to go to purgatory and collect them?
The Sam Situation
The twist that Sam was all in his head for a while was fantastic. I really liked that. And Jared killed it during those scenes. My heart broke for Sam but I was also so proud of him that he was willing to face all the horrible memories of hell and do whatever it took to get back to his brother. We’ve seen Dean do that time and time again, and it was wonderful to see Sam do the same. Not that he hasn’t in the past, but it feels like it’s been awhile. But Cass lied. He didn’t fix Sam, so now he’s going to have to face the repercussions head-on. Maybe Death can come back and help out. I like that guy.
The Dean Situation
Man, this guy just can’t catch a break, can he? If you’re keeping score, by the end of the finale, Dean has lost: Lisa, Ben, Castiel, the Impala, Bobby’s house as a safe haven, and probably his ability to ever trust anyone again that isn’t named Sam or Bobby. His brother is extremely damaged, though he is upright and walking, at least. He has gained: a new possible nemesis in New God Castiel and probably some broken bones. I realize that Dean angst is part of the DNA of this show, and I eat it up, of course, but man, sometimes I just want to call a time out and let them breathe for a while. How is Dean going to fix this mess?
The Bobby Situation
One of the major repercussions of having Cass as their antagonist is the fact that Bobby’s house isn’t going to be safe anymore. Sure, it may be angel proofed, but that’s just the house. And is it God proofed? I bet Cass is powerful enough now that he could plow right through that. The angel-killing sword didn’t even faze him, so why would any of the sigils they know? And it’s not like they have another angel up their sleeve that they can just call and get information from now that Balthazar is dead. And RIP, Balthazar. I am going to miss you. Also, I am kind of going to miss Bobby’s lady friend, Dr. Visnich. She was awesome, even if she was a monster. Not all monsters are bad, Bobby, and I guess you found a good one.
The Crowley Situation
I am extremely pleased that Crowley escaped because I love that British bastard, sick, twisted, manipulative demon that he is. My prediction is that he is going to team up with Sam and Dean next season to help hunt Cass down because he’ll be scared of what Cass will do as God. And that will be ironic since it was basically Crowley’s idea in the first place to have Cass be the new God anyway. I doubt Cass would have even considered really going that route if Crowley hadn’t planted the idea in his head.
All right, I think I’ve gone on for long enough. How did everyone like the episode? There were definitely a multitude of dramatic moments, but I am strangely optimistic after watching. I was expecting to be completely crushed, but instead I cannot wait for season 7. So, do you all agree or do you think I’m crazy?
I am so with you on all of this.
I want to sit down and rewatch the whole season again. I’ve had an essay in my head forming for weeks. First it started centered on Soulless Sam, but now it’s expanded fully into the whole season and how everything fits.
I think it’s going to be a fantastic wild ride in season 7 and I can’t wait to see where they take us on it. The roller coaster of this show is wonderful—and what makes it so good to me is just how when you finally have a complete season in hand you can go back through and see the sign posts that weren’t so obvious, take it apart and put it all back together again.
I admit it. I’m a Meta Head in the extreme.
Oh the circles my brain is already running around in—by Fall they’ll be so damn deep.
Sigh.
Not!Castiel is problematic. The writers *cough*Kripke*cough* have painted themselves into a corner. Turning one of the most beloved characters of the show evil will not set well with the fans for long.
Also, Dean, Sam and Bobby are trapped, without transportation (OH THE IMPALA!), with not!Cas. Sam is damaged to an unknown extent. The most logical way out will be to have not!Cas start melting down immediately in the season opener, and returning the souls to purgatory while he still can.
Otherwise, not!Cas melting down and releasing a million monster souls on the earth? Too big a mess for anyone to clean up. If they restore Cas right off the bat, there is still a huge amount of territory to travel. He murdered a friend, and virtually destroyed Sam to use him as blackmail against his brother. The nerd angel has a lot to make up for.
What I want to see, DESPERATELY, is what was barely hinted at in “Let it Bleed:” Lovecraftian Mythos. It appears Supernatural is going to go on for as long as Jared and Jensen are willing to sign on. I, personally, would love to see Cthulhu or Yog-Sathoth as the big bad, and really get some horror back in the show.
We shall see.
I think Cas moved into unforgivable territory (particularly for Dean–he very carefully said “We were family once” without any reference to being so again) the moment he took down the wall in Sam’s head. We know the one thing Dean won’t abide by is someone hurting Sam, and Cas did the thing that would hurt him most–and made no indication of fixing Sam as promised. But I think forgiveness is going to be the least of the Winchesters’ worries come season 7. Geez.
I love, love, loved Sam’s ordeal in his head, coming face to face with his soulless self and Hell self. Jared was simply stellar in those scenes. The postures, the vocal inflections, the facial expressions, everything were unique to each version of himself. Blew me away.
There was a con video (I forget from which con) from earlier this year where someone asked J2 their favorite lines. Jared said (in vague terms) that his was from the finale where he says “You know me, you know why” about not being able to leave his brother alone. I remembered that as soon as Sam said it and it really struck me. That’s the Sam I fell in love with in the early seasons.
Besides dealing with a supped up God-Cas next season, I’m interested in seeing how Sam is functioning with those Hell memories in place. I was really hoping we’d see him wake up in the panic room and find the note and gun Dean’d left for him, but alas. Still, I was amazed he got there on time and had the presence of mind to stab Cas (even if it didn’t work) when he was clearly struggling with memory overload. I doubt it’s going to be pretty for him; it most definitely wasn’t for Dean in season 4.
Overall, I was just blown away by these two episodes. Rewatching season 6 with all this information in place is going to be fascinating. And bring on season 7!
I really do hope they deal with that broken wall in Sam’s head. Show the ramifications. I’ll be pretty pissed if it gets swept under the rug with an “I’m okay.” After all, he didn’t get to deal with it at all this season except for that brief bit after “Unforgiven.” Going to Hell should really affect a person!
I also wonder how long they plan on dragging out the Cas drama. A few episodes, half a season, the entire season? Hard to say, but if it gives Misha a meater role than he had this season, I might be open to it.
We’ll be getting info from Comic Con at the end of July about what’s coming. Until then, we go crazy with speculation! It’s going to be a long Hellatus. Again.
Judging by the brief flashes we had of Sam stumbling in after Bobby and Dean were already there, my guess is they’re going to address Sam’s Hell and its aftermath in conjunction with Cas and his new status.
Is it Fall yet?
Dean you moron! Why would you white wash their brains! If you were going to make them forget, why your entire existence? Why not just to before the year or even before the kidnapping. How are they going to explain dead boyfriend (unless that got cleared out too). Anywho: Go ahead punch me! I don’t care. That was a stupid move and they are gonna be pissed when they remember. And demons lie, they twist stuff around. I’ve been saying that Ben was his son from day one. Now Sam did awesome! I quipped though that they should have named the episode “The Good, The Bad and The Ugly” that’s what the 3 Sam’s made me think of. Cass oh Cass why hast though forsaken us. How will you be fixed. Will Chuck (God) come back finally? Seriously I mean where the devil did Chuck go? As for Crowley he’s the demon you love to hate and love again. I am glad he didn’t get killed too.
Well, with Misha no longer a series regular, and the press release on S07, they intend to milk this for a lot.
I don’t want a season of evil Castiel. For me, it ceases to be entertaining.
This was an incredible night! I went from one emotional extreme to the other. I am now a quivering pile! Though my body may be a puddle, my mind is already working.
I see this as the long awaited opportunity to bring the “Amulet” back into play. It is supposed to glow brightly in the presence of God. So, if Sam picked up the amulet after Dean chucked it in the garbage (like I think he did), and if Sam and Dean are suspicious (like I think they are) as to whether Castiel is really God (Sam could kill demons with his mind after drinking demon blood and was not the Devil, who knows what a regular angel could do after drinking Purgatory and still not be God), and if they bring out the amulet around Castiel (like I think they would) and it does NOT “glow brightly” (like I think it won’t) then will Castiel realize he’s not God and dump the “soul juice” (like I hope he will cause I really like Cas better than Castiel)?
Also, what the Hell is happening in Hell now? Crowley scuttled away like the self-preserving and loveable little cockroach that he is. He gave away so many secrets to Castiel that he may have a tough time hiding. Since, there has to be some kind of balance between Good and Evil, then I’m thinking some new Badness needs to show up or maybe some “old” Badness needs to reappear and help even the score.
I don’t know…just sayin’
Holy blonde cheerleader batman!
Wow. Just wow. I’ve managed to calm myself down. My brother almost interrupted his World of Warcraft playing to check if I was alright because of the noises I was making.
It is going to be so interesting to see how this plays out. Jared owned this. That is all for now. I need to go and think it over some more.
I have to watch all of season 6 again with more focus. It was sad that Dean chose to erase Lisa and Ben’s memories but I don’t see how that will save them from demons, etc. If the need arises again, they can be kidnapped again because everyone already knows Dean has a weak spot (very much so) for them. I wonder if he forgot something of his at their house…
Season 7 with Sam struggling to stay upright, I think they will have to correct that aspect pretty early on….
Yeah, whose left? Sam (less than one hundred percent) Dean, Bobby, and ?the ghostfacers? hmmm Maybe. I think Martin is still alive from season 5 Sam, Interrupted. It makes me wonder whether Dean and Sam will have time to sleep. They have been at this for 6 plus years and they are looking burned out. Will they end up in a facility like Martin (like dean said they would) sooner rather than later?
I’m with Sam on the whitewashed memories thing. And I’m gussing from the way he was trying to talk to Dean that he wasn’t sure that everything was cleaned up, like there’s probably somthing that they missed that will trigger memories for them if they find it. Besides, Lisa said that was the best year of her life and Dean just had Castiel take it away from her, or at least hide it.
And Castiel’s arrogance was unbelievable. Between them, he and Raphael went a step beyond even Lucifer, who’s got to be peeved. All he did was rebel against Heaven and he ended up consigned to a special Hell-cage, those two ended up fighting over the throne of Heaven itself and so far one has exploded like a bag of chunky soup (a favored method of angelic disposal)and the other has declared himself the New God. Awkward.
I’m going to say that Castiel probably will go nuclear sooner rather than later. There’s going to be some really awkward fall-out from that. I think Raphael should suddenly be back, just like Castiel. I think God should step in long enough for both of those idiots to learn some humility and then step out again. Then I think Castiel should go to time-out for a while and think about what he did.
Am I the only once confused by this? The information from the upfronts is as follows: “There are two interesting things I noticed in the press release though about Supernatural. First, Misha Collins is again listed in the cast as a series regular.” That was said on Thursday. Just a day or two later, now they’re saying Misha is NOT a series regular. WTF?
They were able to leave Mark Sheppard out of the credits so as to not blow the surprise that Crowley was back, so I bet they made a fake annoucement in order to not blow the “Castiel goes nuclear” show ending.
They are like that, you know.
For me, this season has been an exploration of despair, and these episodes cemented my opinion, as both Dean and Castiel gave in to it.
My initial reaction to them was not a favorable one. Dean wiping Ben and Lisa’s memories was just what Sam said it was. It was a violation of their minds, and could endanger them should another demon attack. I had hoped that they would survive and re-enter Dean’s life, because I liked the opportunity to grow it provided him. For a while I wondered if Lisa would die, and Ben would go with the boys. Logistically this would be tough, and children on this kind of series are a liability, but it could have been interesting.
Castiel, oh Castiel. It was like reading that moment in the Return of the King (spoilers) when Frodo gave in to the ring and claimed it for his own. It is far from the end that I expected for his tragedy. Like the other commenters I thought he would somehow sacrifice his grace, and either die or become human. And now, as another writer said, he has accomplished what even Lucifer never did.
I suppose it makes some kind of sense. Castiel has been making his own decisions for so short a time, and each one led him somewhere darker. The problem with having him choose his own path, aside from the fact that he learned decision making from the Winchesters, is that for millenia he accepted and did horrible things as an angelic soldier. He is used to horror, and fresh horrors are not enough to shock him about the direction he is heading.
And then there is another new concept for him: pride. While Cas the angel in Season 4 seemed to take a certain amount of pride in his work, he was low ranking, and made only a few tactical decisions. His sense of self was limited, so humility was much easier. When he became an individual, when he was rewarded for the first real decisions he made by being resurrected, that changed. He wanted to make his own choices, and be respected for them.
The only thing that might have saved him was his most human trait, his love for his friends. He did not open up to them as he should have about what was happening, keeping them in the dark for a year, but once his partnership with Crowley was exposed, he tried. He went to Dean again and again, asking to be heard. He pointed out, rightly, that he had given his all for the Winchesters, asking little. Dean was not prepared to hear him, or to ask questions.
I can’t help but think that if Dean had asked him what the plan to open Purgatory really meant, had allowed a real conversation, Cas might have listened to him at the end.
Cas was leading an army, trying to save the world, and the people closest to him had a tendency to mock him, and think little of his abilities. They didn’t talk to him. When Sam, Dean, and Bobby found out he was spying, they trapped him in holy fire. Balthazar went behind his back. Rachel attacked him. All of them them looked at his secret in fear, and tried to oppose him.
Nobody tried to engage him. They ordered him, or lectured him, or undermined him secretly.
No wonder he didn’t respond.
No wonder he thought Dean was humoring him, trying to manipulate him into giving up the first real power he has had.
I hope the Cas that sat in the Impala can be recovered. Soulless Sam was interesting, but was a strain on the family dynamic of the series. Cas has been a part of that family, and declaring himself a god rips the picture apart. I think Season 7 will be difficult to watch, though I hope it can somehow turn out for the best.
I sooooo agree with you about your Castiel-related comments. If Dean and the others had tried to engage Cas about why he did what he did, there might have been a chance to stop the angel. (But, then, there might be no S7…)
Dealing with betrayal from a close friend/brother is difficult for Dean, as is with all of us. The thing is, in honor of the love/respect that existed, I think Dean should have talked with the betrayer, esp. since they usually were sorry and had tried to do wrong things for the right reasons. Not doing so had proved fatal in the past. (Remember Sam’s case?) I’m not lessening Cas’s responsibilities; just saying that Dean might have reached him “inside.”
SPN is really interesting the way it deals with love and forgiveness, free will and responsibility, pride and humility, rejection and compassion, good and evil. The Winchesters’ story is really like a Gospel.
I am really interested at how the writers will deal with Cast-God and his eventual realization of his Fall and subsequent enlightenment.
I absolutley LOVED the finale…I was so frustrated with cas and all that crap and the fact that we won’t find out what happens till september!! I was strangling the air a lot last night lol
I watched it with my cousin and she normally gets really annoyed and rolls her eyes at my fangirlness, sometimes ruining the excitement for me…but when we saw what happened with the whole brain erasal thing, I’m pretty sure she teared up…that was awesome to me 🙂
Anyhoo, back to the actual schtuff lol
I’m super sad about the lisa/ben/dean thing…and the monsters still know who lisa and ben are…so they can still go after them but they won’t know anything about it…? Cause ya know if they find out somethin is after the two of them, wouldn’t dean go try n save em? Bringin it all back to the beginning? Urgh…maybe I’m over thinking lol
The whole “pieces of sam” thing….amazing!!!! I loved it! I’ve read fanfics similiar to that and they were pretty cool but this was awesome! I wonder if they ever get ideas from fanfic….hmm…lol they should…there’s some really good ones out there lol
But jared was amazing with his performance! Amazing!! And the writers really kicked ass on this one… I am quite sad about the cas thing but at least we aren’t really losing cas altogether…I’m super sad about baltazar though 🙁 I liked him, he was funny lol
Well, I could talk about this all day but unfortunately I have work and other stupid stuff to do lol
I’m still in shock, to be honest. I really have no words, but I’ll try anyway.
Eric Kripke is evil. But he’s wonderful and awesome and a genius and I love him. Sera and Edlund and all the other writers, I think the enjoy making us suffer as well. (And they have been known to troll the fandom…) Anyway, I loved the finale. Let It Bleed totally exceeded my expectations, and I enjoyed it. Wiping their memories not only broke my heart…yeah, it pretty much just broke my heart. And “TMWKTM” was BRILLIANT. I loved seeing Sam fight himself-Jared’s acting was amazing-and it was so different than how I pictured it. In a good way. I wish we had seen what happens to the Winchesters after Cas’ big shocker, but I doubt I would’ve noticed anyway, considering that it felt like I was slapped in the face repeatedly. Cas is the new God!? Holy crap, that’s all I can say. I love Misha and think he’s a great actor, so I have no doubt he could pull this off. But Cas as God made me want to bawl my eyes out. (I’m still in shock, I don’t think it’s hit me yet, lol) But I think it will be interesting to see how the boys have to deal with their ex-brother (ouch) being God. And a God that doesn’t look to forgiving at that. I’m still holding out hope that the nerdy angel that I fell in love with will come back one day, but until then, I’m interested to see how season 7 is going to play out.
BRAVO! WELL DONE! Kripke and Co. need to take a bow for a great season finale. I’m so looking forward to this fall. I know we will find out a lot more once Comic Con is over. Anyway, I’m doing a “happy dance” because the guys are back together stronger than ever. Bobby didn’t die and neither did Cas. I think Cas will find out the hard way about how power will corrupt. It would be nice if they brought back Chuck/God to straighten him out and take him down a peg or two. As for Crowley, I think he’ll keep our boys busy next year while trying to stay out of sight from Cas. I definitely see good things in the future for my favorite show.
I’m conflicted. I feel about Season Six of Supernatural sort of how I felt about Season Five of “Buffy”–a few outstanding episodes, a good number of well done ones, and a couple of absolute stinkers, but the over-arching plot was a mess. To recap, because that’s the only way I can make sense of this:
Cas brought Sam back from Hell (likely) not realizing that Sam’s soul was left behind. He also brought Samuel Campbell back from (?) in order to hunt down the ‘first’ demons, who for some shaky reasons Crowley believed knew the location of Purgatory. Cas did this to keep Raphael from taking over Heaven, because apparently there are a lot of souls in Purgatory, and they give power in some unspecified way.
At the same time, Balthazar was stealing heavenly weapons, again for a poorly explained reason. Cas doesn’t tell Dean anything, supposedly because he wants Dean to be happy (although having spent so much time with Dean, shouldn’t Cas have realized that Dean was in agony over the thought that Sam was in Hell?) but maybe because he knew Dean wouldn’t approve of what he was doing. So all of the monster killing managed to tick off the Mother of All, who rose only to be killed off after making some vague threats and doing…not much of anything. Then at the very end, Cas and Crowley managed to find the one person who could tell them how to get into Purgatory, and Cas double-crossed Crowley and took the souls for himself. Did you follow all of that? Because I’m not sure I did.
The way I see it, there were two major problems with the arc: it had too many loosely connected components, and too much of it took place off screen. In the first case, there was Souless!Sam, Grandpa Samuel, ReluctantHunter!Dean, Cas the Unreliable Angel, the Mother of All, the ‘first’ demons, Balthazar and the weapons, and the search for Purgatory [i]all going on at the same time. [/i] And yeah, some of those were tightly connected, and a few were well explained, but others, like Grandpa Samuel and the Mother of All, made only the barest amount of sense at best. Oh, and I love that for the first half of the season there was an obsession with finding ‘firsts,’ who proved to know exactly jack squat.
But the main problem for me was that the entire war in Heaven took place off screen except for brief, brief scenes in ‘The Third Man’ and ‘The French Mistake’ before being hurriedly explained in a large lump in ‘The Man Who Would Be King’. All we had was Cas assuring us that yes, there was a war going on. Which is a poor way to develop a plot.
I didn’t intend to be so negative when I started writing this. This season had several episodes I liked (The French Mistake, Mommy Dearest, The Man Who Would Be King, Live Free or Twihard, and the Bristol, RI episode) and my love for the Winchesters, Bobby, and even Cas only grew. But this season really failed on the whole ‘arc’ front, especially considering that until this season, Supernatural kept an arc going for [i]five whole seasons, [/i] with only minor plot holes and fallacies. That’s unbelievably impressive, and it’s why this season bothered me so much. I tried to get there with the season-long plot arc, I really did. But as I wrote above, there was just too much going on, and especially too much going on off screen.
All of that being said, I’m super, super excited for Season Seven, especially for the repercussions of Sam’s memories, but a better plot arc is at the top of my wish list, right before a little more humor, more Bobby, a slightly more stable and level-headed Dean, and at least a bit of a return to sweet and caring Sam.
Wow. Apologies for length.
Wow. This was… err…I’m.. speechless… but in the wrong way. It was a ‘meh’ for me really.
And I very much agree with Rose. Waayyy too many balls in the air and it ended up being a jumbled mess. Too many unanswered questions and odd plotpoints and -holes and -devices.
For instance: Purgatory. Why were the souls in ‘Purgatory’ such a big fricking deal? You’d think that there are more souls in heaven, and especially in hell?? So by math, it should be Crowley who’s the God of All (and frankly that would have been more menacing)! So all those souls out there could be sucked up to give anyone megapowers? Why hasn’t someone allready done that then? I’m confused.
Also, I’m getting tired of bringing people back from the dead without the having to make a deal -factor. It’s becoming a joke really. If Cas found that Moisha guys diary, then why didn’t he just bring that guy back? Or Lovecraft himself? Why track down that Vizyak lady and then just let her die without trying to save her (she wasn’t hurting anyone)?
I hated the Ben&Lisa mindwipe ’cause it’s not really protecting them, is it? I mean, who are they gonna call the next time demons come bursting through the door? Dean still has feelings for them, they can be used against him. Why couldn’t they just throw in a line about angel&demond branding their ribs so it wouldn’t seem that Dean just made them forget about ‘him’ and all would be well for them. I don’t like being constantly hit over the head with the fact that being a Winchester sucks like hell and is worse than anything ever.
And why did Cas bring Sams wall down exactly? He could have done so many other things to detain them or slow them down, or even killed them since he could *again* just bring them back afterwards. Atleast that would’ve been painless. Why would he torture ‘a friend’ when he, at first, wanted to spare him from all that pain? That seemed way too brutal.
And while we’re at it, in TMWWBK, why didn’t he go to ‘Sam’ for help when he couldn’t go to Dean, instead of Crowley? Why did he bring Sam back, see there was something wrong with him and then procede to do ‘nothing’ about it, not even talking to him for a whole year? Cas really behaves very oddly to a person he considers a friend.
And why did Sam stab Castiel in the end? What was the reason, besides showing us that the angelsword doesn’t work? Why would he do that when Cas wasn’t hurting or even threatening anyone?
And the last lines of the finale? Cliché galore. *sigh* Wasn’t menacing. Wasn’t really anything.
I don’t know. For me it seems that these storylines weren’t thought through all the way (or even half way), just thrown there for the ‘wow’ factor.. This show used to be so grand at doing these arcs. Or at least bringing it mostly to an satisfying togetherness in the end. And these questions here? I still have like 90% more…
So, a confusing meh. And sorry for the long rant, I was just dissapointed. And I’m so pissed about that, I really wanted to love this season and its finale but in the end, it just didn’t come together for me 🙁 I hope I’ll feel better with some time but I’m not holding my breath…
/end rant. I hope.
Wow. Guess I wasn’t that speechless after all 😀
Ok, some positives have to be mentioned!
The ackting. Superb. Jared and Jensen rocked and so did Misha (excluding the last lines naturally). Sam vs. Sam scenes were my fave, wow. That’s how you make tension!
So many great guest performances also. Balty. Crowley. Bobby (he smiled, yay!). Really liked the Robin chick. Stop killing interesting women Show! She would have been a lovely love for Sammy. Also, LisaDemon? Bravo. Cindy plays evil very deliciously. 🙂
First let me start by saying, goodbye to Lisa and Ben. I am glad that they are not dead, but I am also very very happy that they are out of the picture. Sorry Sammy, sometimes you gotta let people go (Mystery Spot). Poor Dean. Yeah us. Pro Lisa & Ben, get over it and put the tomatoes down. 😀
Crowley lives. I am okay with that because he and Meg can now team up and battle Cas.
Is Cas ‘God’, or is he ‘a god’, like Glory? And where does this leave Chuck? Will we have a Chuck vs Cas battle for Heaven? 😀
And what is with the Impala abuse? She gets creamed in the season 1 finale. She has her number one guy smashed into her windshield. And now she gets turned ass upwards. Okay she is steel, unlike some other car I can name (piece of plastic crap Charger), but still, show a little respect.
Bravo Sera, I loved season six, even though I wasn’t loving the Soulless One. But we ended the season with the brothers together like they haven’t been for a very very long time. 😀
Is it September yet????
Damn, four months without any new episodes, but a lot of time to speculate on what is to come. 🙂
I hated S6. Throughout the whole season, I felt the weak Lisa/Ben and Soulless Sam stories only served to place the boys as plot devices to tell a jumbled mess of stories that never jelled.
As far as these last two episodes were concerned, there were two lines that gave me a little hope for S7:
“If you ever mention Lisa or Ben to me again, I will break your nose.”
“If you know me, you know why. I won’t leave my brother out there alone.”
I won’t repeat points that have already been brought out about S6, but will say I hope Show doesn’t spend any more time on the aftermath of Sam’s time in Hell.
I’m actually a fan of the Dark Castiel storyline. I thought like a lot of people that Cas was going to die in the finale, especially with all the Misha Collins not coming back rumors that were floating around the Internets. It seems that it is going to be more of a recurring guest star situation with Castiel as the new big bad next season. And it should be good because Misha Collins was deliciously evil in The Man Who Knew Too Much as dark, hyper-powered Castiel.
As for the finale, I liked the fact that Castiel went over the Moral Event Horizon before he even slurped down demon souls by taking down Sam’s wall and killing Balthazar. It meant that there is no excusing Cas’s actions at the end of the episode; there were enough hints that Cas had reached the point of no return even before the ritual.
I agree with you. I don’t know how they’ll play their cards when it comes time, but I think it’s fascinating that we saw Cas go down this dark path and it almost seemed like the final true straw that broke the camels back was when he pleaded and begged for God to answer him and got a big fat nothing. I think he’s decided that if God won’t be there HE’LL do it instead, and unfortunately as with all of his other intentions throughout the season, what started as a good one turned sour quickly.
My hope for season 7 is that we get to see Sam and Dean fully merge into the team we know them to be and take on this new hubris filled Cas and find a way to stop him TOGETHER.
I have so many thoughts about season 6 running around and I just find myself more and more pleased with how the season turned out in the end. I’ve enjoyed it throughout, but boy.
“You know me, you know why..I’m not leaving my brother alone out there.” Powerful line by Sam as he is about to accept the hell memories. That is what true family to for another, taking on the pain for the sake of another.
Which is why, in my opinion, Cas was never “family”. Since his arrival he NEVER took accountability and NEVER took responsibility and ALWAYS blames others. And on top of it he would rather sacrifice others as an ends to a mean and once he ran out of sacrificial lambs only then maybe, maybe he will sacrifice himself as a LAST resort. Where as the Winchester brothers would rather sacrifice themselves before all others.
Maybe if Cas actually own his part in actively (and with full knowledge) in bringing on the Apocalypse, then I may be more generous towards him. But he never did and it was the first of the lost list of unforgivable acts on his part. So him declaring himself a god is canon to his characteristics since season 4.
Cas was sane and of sound mind when he broke Sam’s mind wall, which was soon after he killed the monster doctor who never hurt anybody, and then killed Balthazar in the back. I think by now Cas had hit irredeemable.
It’s speculated in my house that Cas wanted to be like Sam, but without the pain and sacrifice and most of all, the humility.
For season 7 I guessing Cas will explode, sending all sorts of strange new monsters into the world. Then for the rest of the season Sam’s memories of Hell are revisited and connected to what happened to Dean in hell. Now is the time to deal with BOTH Sam and Dean’s hell experience. Dean would do anything to help Sam so maybe he could finally deal with his feelings and the things he has pushed down all his life. If Dean realizes that he can help Sam by helping himself then that’s progress.
Well, both of the times Cas was killed by archangels, he did it to help and to protect Dean. It seems like sacrifice to me!
These aren’t speculations, just random thoughts….
I love how back in Season 3 Dean willingly accepted hell to help Sam and now in Season 6, Sam willingly accepted hell to help Dean.
I love how, in this episode, Castiel was losing his mind at the same time Sam was regaining his.
For some reason, I love that (in this episode) Soulless Sam sucks at shooting Souley Sam. How on earth, from about 10ft away, could he miss a target that size?
I love how Sam’s dream bar has a freaking library in it. Such a hot nerd!
Also, Robins ‘Dude, who are you?’ was a direct throwback to Eva in ‘Hunted’
I loved ‘One was like a male model type’. Clueless Sam is so observant!
I love how the Impala is so ingrained in Sam that, even with no memory, as soon as he sees it, he knows that it’s his.
I loved how Dean placed the gun beside Sam, almost an invite for him to join them when (not if) he woke up. Such faith in his brother!
I loved how clueless Sam has a funny, funny run. All chest out and arms a flailing. Very poor technique….
I did not love Robins highlights.
It icks me out that Crowley knows what dogs blood tastes like. It icks me out that blood tastes different….
I loved how even HellSam gave up his personal fight so easy, offering himself up to be killed, if it meant it would help his brother.
I loved how Dean has the sack to face down a hugely powerful otherworldly being, once again, with no weapons bar words and compassion. Well, it worked once….
I loved Crowleys really growly ‘Flee or dieeee’. He was having waaay to much fun with that line.
I love how, even though what Castiel did is hateful, I don’t hate him. Bar the wall breaking thing, he deserves a kicking for that.
‘You know me, you know why. I’m not leaving my brother alone out there’. 6 years of a show summed up in 14 words….
I love all the points you’ve made they are all perfect. 🙂
Loved this season. Loved the finale.
Hated seeing Dean have Castiel mind-wipe Lisa and Ben–but I’m not convinced that thread is so neatly tied off as some seem to think it is … the demon possessing Lisa did let drop that Ben is Dean’s son. The demon may just have been fracking with Dean’s head, but I’m curious to see if they do anything with that.
I never believed that Castiel had gone down a “wrong” path. He is doing what he believes to be right. God/Chuck did bring him back after all, didn’t he? Who else could have? And with that in mind, I view the cliffhanger and what may be to come as a meditation on power–but Castiel doesn’t HAVE to be the big baddie next season. God/Chuck can easily show up out of nowhere with a surprise righting of the Castiel ship. We’ll just have to see.