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4) After realizing it isn't John standing over Sam's crib, what do you think Mary's first thought is? Do you think she added the flickering lights and stranger in the nursery together to conclude demons finally? Or when the angels scrubbed her mind in 5x13, did they take it all, hunter past included?


Elle2 - I think Mary quickly put it all together. Her reaction of not calling immediately for John’s assistance, to me, reads that she was still trying to keep that part of her life hidden – so ingrained in her was that training. Also, while the angels scrubbed her memories after events of The Song Remains the Same, I don’t think anything else was touched; I base that on the fact that in Dark Side of the Moon, it’s clear Sam and Dean remember that they had died, but hadn’t remembered coming to heaven and reuniting with Ash. At the end, they were granted those memories of what happened in heaven that time, while prior ones were gone, but all their other memories remained.

Metamorphic Rocks - Well, in Season 2 "All Hell Breaks Loose Part One," Mary did seem to put it all together, because when the Yellow Eyed Demon takes Sam into the past to see the night his mother died, Mary sees the YED and says "it's you," so she did remember him, which means she recalls the deal she made with him in the Season 4 episode "In the Beginning."

Percysowner - I think she remembered her hunter past. I think the angels only scrubbed the memory of Sam and Dean's visit and that the angels wanted them for the Apocalypse. I think once she realized it wasn't John in the room with Sam she put together the flickering lights and ran up the stairs trying to cobble together every exorcism ritual that she could.

Elle - Panic, obviously. After that, only that a stranger is in the house - not that it's a supernatural entity. If she does remember her past life at all, she had not apparent safeguards in place in her home or around the baby at least, in any way. At the same time, she didn't call for help i.e. yell John's name as she runs up the stairs or anything so it's possible she has no idea. Yes, she does apologize in Home to Sam, presumably for the deal that led to Azazel coming in, etc. and I like to think (on reflection) that the long look she gives Dean is in part realization that he's that guy from the future who warned her not to get out of bed - so maybe angel scrubbing wears off after death. I don't believe she had any memory of hunter living between Dean's birth and her death.


# cheryl42 2015-01-16 21:21
My favorite scene...the moment it started to the moment it ended. :)
# eilf 2015-01-16 21:57
Aw I love the pilot. Sure it's a teeny weeny bit clunky in places but the guys sell it. The entire heart of the show is right there. And ACTUAL horror (ah the good old days)! Scary girl is scary, creepy branch shadow moving impossibly across the side of the house, the two principle women in the boys' lives to that point both killed so awfully. Revenge now required by the brothers - Dean for his mother and Sam for the mother he never had the chance to know or be nurtured by, and for the woman he loved *cries*. The sheer cuteness of the brothers in the first scene they ever shot together (y'all know which one :) ). The fight on the bridge! Someone should do a retrospective of 'important brother moments on bridges' I believe there are a few. If you include 'important brother moments beside water' there is a whole thesis to be written.

I love the escape from the police of half of the Hardy boys due to the quick thinking of the other half, and the later rescue of said other half by couple of devious (and illegal) phone-calls. Actually if they broke phones as often back then as they do now the show might have stopped right there.

The lighting and sets were great, the music was great, the atmosphere was great. The guest-stars were great - hey there's Duane Barry!

I like the pilot a bit (does it show?).
# LEAH 2015-01-16 23:48
I absolutely love the pilot. It wasn't my 1st introduction to the brothers. I had seen a episode from season 2 that caught my interest while channel surfing. I thought it was pretty awesome and went out and bought the S1 DVD and sat all weekend long catching up. The pilot has a special place in my heart because it was the birth of an incredible TV show and introduction to two wonderful actors that I love more each year. From the dark grittiness of the lighting to the great music, coupled with an exciting, surprising story I was instantly hooked. The chemistry of Jared and Jensen just jumped off the screen. I wondered for years what Mary meant by "it's you" and later by her "I'm sorry Sammy" and I am still impressed that it was all explained years later. Sam and Dean look so very young and fresh faced back then.

I very much enjoy these Crew Reviews. Good to see Percysowner included this time. Thanks Nate! BTW where are your thoughts?
# njspnfan 2015-01-17 12:27
I really enjoy these WFB Crew Reviews and am glad you've continued them. Nate - why didn't you chime in with your thoughts? Logged on to the WFB site this morning and it's nice to get away from the Sam vs. Dean wars taking place in the 10.12 About a Boy synopsis article. I thought the pilot episode did a great job of setting up the series. There were a couple of rough patches - the exposition scene on the stairs was a little clunky, but then again, they had a lot of ground to cover in a short scene. And, at the end, it never made sense why Dean came back to Sam and Jess' apartment, but I recall later seeing a deleted scene on DVD which explained it; not sure why they deleted that but, again, a lot of ground to cover in that episode.

The one scene that set things apart, at least for me, was the scene of the brothers researching the case, the way Sam pushed Dean out of the way to take over at the PC. It was a very brotherly thing to do, even for brothers in their 20's, and wasn't that important in the grand scheme of things. But you could see that the actors "clicked", and that attention to small details stood out, at least to me.
Nate Winchester
# Nate Winchester 2015-01-19 18:25
Nate - why didn't you chime in with your thoughts?

I've been busy and not much to say about the pilot other than "like it". ;) Doesn't mean I won't chime in in the future.
# Bevie 2015-01-17 15:54
"What one thing introduced in the Pilot do you wish we had more of these days, (i.e. rock-n-roll, bitch/jerk, urban legends, seeing them scam for cash, be it poker or pool)?"

Haha! ALL of the above! Classic rock for a scene, as in "Renegade" and "Don't Fear the Reaper". The brotherly teasing, as when Dean is covered in smelly muck and Sam says
"You smell like a toilet!" LOL.

Would love to see them scamming for cash as it seems there is no need to do since they found the dragons' cache of gold. They could show them pawning off bits and pieces of it so we know
that is how they are surviving. It was a huge pile and gold is extremely valuable! Always longed to watch Dean hustling pool with some tough guys who would probably want to take his head off later. We did see Sam doing a great job hustle with the poker Witch! Loved that! ALMOST got one of Sammy hustling pool in "I Know What You Did Last Summer" but it was cut way too short when Ruby showed up.

And more urban legends please. Am really tired of dick angels in particular, none have been interesting since Zachariah (great actor). Metatron anybody? And some more disguises than just FBI. Used to be different in almost every episode.

Loved the pilot! Still love it every time! (The boys really WERE boys back then, weren't they? So damn cute!):o:p:p;); );)