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Dean:  Man...hope I die before I get old. Whole thing seems brutal, don't it?
Sam:  You think we will?
Dean:  What?
Sam:  Die before we get old.
Dean:  Haven't we both already?
Sam:  You know what I mean, Dean. I mean, do you think we'll still be chasing demons when we're 60?
Dean: No, I think we'll be dead...for good. What? You want to end up like -- Like travis? Huh?Or Gordon, maybe?
Sam: There's Bobby.
Dean:  Oh, yeah, there's a poster child for growing old gracefully.
Sam:  Maybe we'll be different, Dean.
Dean:  What kind of Kool-Aid you drinking, man? Sammy, it ends bloody or sad. That's just the life.
Sam:  What if we could win?
Dean:  Win?
Sam:  If there was a way we could just...put an end to all of it.
Dean:  Is there something going on you're not telling me?
Sam:  No.
Dean: Sammy.
Sam:  No. Look, I'm just saying...I just wish there was a way we could...go after the source. That's all. Cut the head off the snake.
Dean:  Well, the problem with the snake is that it has a thousand heads. Evil bitches just keep piling out of the Volkswagen.
Sam:  Yeah. Guess you're right.

 

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The other day while wandering through some older posts a thought crossed my mind. And even though I’d like to think it was a significant lightening bolt type thought, the reality is, it was more like walking down the street and suddenly noticing there’s a 20 story building in a lot you pass every day and thought was still empty.

Anyhoo, the reason for this post. Rock, paper, scissors. Sam and Dean use this game to settle the question of who gets to do (or gets out of doing) certain things.

The first time we see this used is in "Heart" from Season 2. It’s the first time Sam actually wants to stay with the pretty girl instead of letting Dean.

And what do we learn? Dean always chooses scissors. ALWAYS.

At first this just seems funny and the episode (and the series) carries on and most of us probably don’t think to hard about that scene again (except, perhaps for the funny bit in the bloopers).

Then, in Season 4, episode "Jump the Shark," we have a nasty situation where one of the boys has to go down into the duct work of the house. Rock, paper, scissors is again employed as a method to figure out who gets the unpleasant job.

Or does it?

I started to think on what is actually happening when the boys are shown, in these two instances, playing this game.

Up until "Heart," Dean pokes and prods Sam to “hook-up”. Sam comes close, once on his own in Hookman where he shows interest in Lori Sorrenson but Jessica’s death is still too fresh in his mind.

Then in "Provenance," Dean prodded for Sam to take advantage of Sarah’s interesting in him, which, he did but Dean’s tactics changed a bit. First he teased him “Maybe you wouldn’t be so grumpy”, but then he changed and brought up Jessica; “I’m sure she would want you to be happy, right?”

I think that helped free Sam somewhat because he’s been quite resistant up to this point. At this point Sam was still reluctant to use people and is probably what kept him from jumping straight into bed with Sarah but it also allowed him to go forward and let go of Jess a little bit. Almost like having permission. And I’m sure Sarah’s “How archaic/I can make my own decisions” speech helped too.

So when we get around to Madison in "Heart," Sam has moved forward enough that he challenges Dean for pretty girl sitting duty.

So if Dean has been trying to get Sam to hook up, why would he be challenging him? I think Dean was on autopilot and wasn’t thinking and Sam caught him by surprise. He just wasn’t expecting Sam to want to be with the girl. Sort of a mix of “really?” and “it’s about time” coming from Dean. Although, he wasn’t about to let Sam off after his jab about “always with the scissors” so they had to go two out of three.

You kind of get the impression that Sam doesn’t know Dean is giving him the win in though, but, he must because he chose the game. Right? And Dean agreed and he must have known what the outcome would be. So why play the game at all?

Then the game is revisited in "Jump the Shark." Neither one really wants to go down into the duct work but Dean chooses this a decision maker. Why? He’s got to know he’s going to lose right?

So why even go through the motions? Why didn’t Dean just jump right down that air duct if he wanted to do it? Or if he was making sure Sam didn’t do it.

I find it curious and I don’t really have an answer. They seem to choose this when they want to guarantee the outcome.

Course I could be reading way too much into this.

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# Narcissus 2009-07-07 02:08
Yes Tigershire, you are reading too much into this. But that's what fangirling is about and we all do it too so it's all good :D

I thought both scenes were funny. I thought they did in JTS to sort of rub it in people's faces that these two guys are really close, and Adam has a long way to go before being fully accepted into the family, into that kind of bond, if ever at all. And after that I never thought about it again.

But I think I like your theory better haha. However, why did Dean not want Sam to go down in the duct? As for Heart, no arguments here. Never really thought about it until now, but what you said about Dean giving in without tipping Sam off makes perfect sense.
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# Suze 2009-07-07 03:08
Dean didn't want Sam in that duct cos he'd have got stuck, being sort of on the huge side and all that ...

My boys play Rock, Paper, Scissors all the time. They add Sharks and Molten Lava which makes the rules a touch obscure and means the whole thing generally ends in a fight ( which I suspect is rather the point ... )

I think you might be getting just a tiny bit overanalytical but it's a long time to September so never mind ... You go girl! :lol:
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# alysha 2009-07-07 07:42
I never would have caught this, but I think you are right. Dean uses RPS as a way to give Sam a sense of control in a decision making process. This was preobably very effective when they were kids given how dominant Sam's personality is.

Of course, by JTS, DEan wants to prove that he isn't weaker than Sam, nor is he afraid to go into the duct. Old habits of doing the scary dirty work in order to keep Sam safe emerge. Thus, you have Dean offering up a decision maker that is always rigged. And the audience gets a laugh at the silliness of it all.
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# Tigershire 2009-07-07 11:05
Thanks for the nice intro Alice. And, thank you for your comments everyone. Yes, you are right. I am reading too much into this but darn it all, it's fun! GRIN.

Alysha - I think you've got it for JTS - Dean was probably trying to prove a point to Sam.

However, I find it interesting that the way this has been played, it makes it look like Sam really doesn't get that Dean purposely choosing scissors every time they do this. Sam seems so caught up in the glee of actually being able to beat his brother at something he doesn't question the oddity that Dean always loses.

And, thanks J&J's awesome acting it's played perfectly. I especially enjoy Dean's reaction to losing in JTS - comedy gold that one.
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# Rose 2009-07-07 15:32
I actually read a one-shot fic about this not long ago, but darn if I can remember who wrote it. The point in the story was that Dean always lets Sam win because he doesn't want Sam to be doing whatever it is that the loser has to. And this way, Dean wouldn't be seen as bossy by Sam, who always seems to have a knee jerk reaction to Dean's older brother bossiness!

And if you really wanted to delve deeper, Sam also knew the game would always end with Dean losing but it gave Sam an easy out, a way to acquiesce to Dean without actually giving in.

How's that for pyschoanalytic BS? Hey, it made sense to me when I read it! ;-)
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# elle2 2009-07-07 15:45
Sometimes 'over thinking' is totally the point -- and a lot of fun to boot!

I especially enjoyed the RPS in JTS because, to me, it was such a fun, nonverbal but totally comprehensible way of proving that no matter what these two are brothers and no each other so well. Dean can't help himself for taking the scissors and Sam knows it and plays along giving away the dirty job (at least in JTS)...I love the analysis...hmm, perhaps you could think of some others. After all, there's still a few weeks hanging around out there.
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# Bethany 2009-07-08 05:11
I always thought that RPS was a way of showing the innate bond between the brothers, you can imagine them playing it as kids, esp in JTS to show a bond which Adam could never compete with, it shows history and knowledge of each other and a synchronisity that you only get when you know someone a little too well (calm down slash fans not like that).
Rather than a conscious choice by Dean or Sam i always thought that Dean subconciously believes that one day he'll win and doesn't quite realise Sam, the little brother that he is, has his number and always will know what he's going to choose.

would like to see Dean choose paper once just to see Sam's reaction.
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# Suze 2009-07-08 06:42
If you play it a lot you do sort of get stuck on one particular thing ... I always seem to do Rock, it's probably Freudian ... :lol:
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# trina 2009-07-08 08:52
While I don't think the writers intended for Dean to be intentionally throwing the game, I do think it's a lot of fun to speculate. Not to go too much off topic, but I found it interesting that this was the fourth time in the latter half of season four that the writers referenced back to the episode "Heart". The first three they actually said Madison's name. I have absolutely no clue what it means, if anything, but it stood out for me because this show is somewhat notorious for having something horrible happen, and then never bringing it up again. Four times in nine episodes (yes I checked), after never hearing anything about it for 2 years, seems intentional.
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# Tigershire 2009-07-08 14:07
I agree that is shows the bond between the brothers. That was part of what got me thinking along these lines in the place. I can see Dean as the older brother, using it as a way for Sam to win at something when they were little.

We got to see Dean sacrificing for Sam in Something Wicked - the scene I'm thinking of is the bit with the cereal where Dean says he hadn't even had any yet but still gives the last of it to Sam. I see him loosing in RPS the same way, except it's become this seemingly unbreakable habit.

That was what then led me to think that perhaps it was intentional on Dean's part.

Trina - interesting note about Heart. I wonder if it is a tie into the whole "if Sam could save Madison there there is hope for him" except he wasn't able to save Madison. Perhaps that episode was more of a turning point for Sam than any of us realized??
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