
I've been going back through season four recently to improve the Photo Gallery, and it was in going through that season that I realized just how much I sorely miss Misha Collins and the character of Castiel. His demise in episode 7.02 has been a real blow to me personally.
So naturally, my heart jumped at the confirmation from Warner Brothers that Misha Collins has been officially scheduled to appear in episode 17 of Supernatural and will be in an additional two episodes after that in season seven.
Some reports from other outlets made some pretty bold assumptions though that Misha was coming back as Castiel. According to the statement, only Misha's return was confirmed, not Castiel's. So we'll see what happens, but either way, I'm treating this as very good news. What do you think?
UPDATED: Laura Prudom of AOL TV went to the source. Misha Collins confirms that Castiel will be coming back! In his usual way though, he didn't give much of a straight answer. He did give this though:
"I can confirm that the character of Castiel is returning to 'Supernatural,'" he told us. "I'm not supposed to talk about any details, but I will tell you this: The character is coming back somewhat changed. I'm not going to tell you everything, but I will tell you that the "new" Castiel no longer wears undergarments."
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I'm not sure what you mean, Alice. The vast majority of comments I have read at other sites about Misha's return are positive. Yes, there were a few people who were not happy about Misha's return, but they seem to me to be vastly outnumbered by the positives.
I find it appalling.
I like the character - he's not a Wiinchester, but he's close. ;) I'm glad he'll be back but stay or go I'm OK with either.
Honestly, at this stage, I just hope they do the courtesy of giving Sam a graceful exit. Give him as nice a send off as you just did Bobby and I'll be happy.
"And I wave goodbye to any hope of emotional exploration for Sam. We'll get an episode where he's messed up, and then we'll be all set to turn it up to eleven on the Dean angst again, be it over Cas or some new creature that's using Cas's body."
^^^ Yeah, these were my thoughts exactly when I read about Collins's return.
Plus I hated the angel storylines throughout S4-6 so I'm not at all excited to see such storylines return. Sorry but it's not good news at all for me.
This makes no sense. Cas hasn't been in the season so far and fans in your camp have been complaining endlessly about Sam being wallpaper. So clearly it isn't the inclusion of Cas that underlies this. It's the writing. Perhaps you should address your complaints to that instead of aim them at a character whose re-appearance has so far only been reconfirmed for three episodes.
Also, Cas's inclusion is not an entirely separate issue from the writing, it's an aspect of it. I feel jilted by how the writing hasn't delivered on Sam's hell so far and I feel disheartened by the writing in of Cas's reappearance.
Cas's appearance specifically, as opposed to the rest of the writing, also crushes my hopes for Sam exploration because they're not going to want to have Sam collapsing leading into a redemption mini-arc for Cas, if they go for that (which, I acknowledge is far from confirmed but certainly in the hopes or fears of a lot of people). They're not going to want to highlight the consequences of his actions, which is exactly what focusing on Sam's suffering would do, if they plan on washing away those sins. The thought that they'll minimize coverage of Sam's hell in order to try to go for a "no harm, no foul" method (that as long as everything turned out ok, no one need dwell on Cas's mistakes) worries me.
Alice - thank you so much for this news, somehow I missed it in my daily travels.
Also,I never was a big Castiel fan after season four, so this doesn't make me happy. I am happy for the fans that wanted Castiel's storyline to be wrapped up. Even if Misha plays another character his appearance will allow the writers to give better closure to Castiel's story, I think.
We were told that Sam's storyline was going to be the focus of the later half of the season. Dean's storyline is still ongoing with no end in sight. Now with Castiel popping in for three eps, that leaves maybe three or four eps to devote to Sam, along with wrapping up the Leviathan storyline.
So Sam might luck out and get one ep the way he did in season 6. Wow. One whole ep. Thanks writers.
IF Bobby is gone at least he got a great ending. Unlike the rest of the story lines that just disappeared.
And as for Sam's story line about Hell ... Sera's already stated that Sam probably won't get over his mental state: It's a permanent scar in his psyche. So, with plenty of time left in the season and good promise of hope for a season 8 I feel that with time Sam's Hell will be dealt with.
In the SPN'verse NOTHING happens the way you expect it and NOTHING happens when you expect it should LOL ... darn those writers.
Sam has been treated as little more than an accessory for Dean for a very long time now, and it's frustrating that the writers keep finding reasons not to explore his part of the story. Castiel's return is just another excuse for them not to.
The timing of when Castiel is due to come back also makes me nervous. Dean’s 13 episode storyline should be ending around 7.16 (given that it didn’t start until episode 4) and then Castiel is back for 7.17. He’s in another two episodes between then and the season end. Things will be quite tight in order to deal with the multitude of storylines that have left to be covered. While I’m hoping to God it won’t happen, will I be surprised if when Castiel returns, he touches Sam on the head and cures all, thereby ensuring his redemption and closing off Sam's hell problem? Not even a little.
Well, there was his 'I'm gonna sit here and watch porn while the world burns' moment in episode 1, the voicemail to Bobby in the second and the 'you will give into nature' in episode 3 that people claim was partially about himself. So I'd assume the arc was episodes 1-13. But it's been so badly charted that I'm not sure.
And either way, I don't have much hopes for any exploration on Sam. If it really is emo arc till 16, then Cas, I'd even be worried about the Leviathans getting fair time. But Sam's a lost cause, I think.
However, the thing is, if Castiel and his situation is one of the main things that Dean is carrying major guilt about, would it not make sense for Castiel to return mid Dean's storyline to help Dean, as opposed to at the end of it?
Course, I'm just speculating here. It might be nothing at all to do with Dean, or Sam. I'm just hoping that he won't show up and instantly heal Sam (after bloody well telling him all season 6 that he couldn't) or worse, bring Bobby out of his coma, Leviathan plan memories intact (if of course Bobby is not dead and is in a coma/has amnesia etc...) That's just be way too easy altogether.
Quoting dmakdavis:
I think Sam's permanent scar to his psyche will be forever shown by him rubbing his hand, nothing more. Then as I said, it will be used to redeem Castiel who will either overcome the new being that Misha is playing or who will actually be back as himself and he will cure Sam and be redeemed. Sam will remain wallpaper.
I know, Tim, but will we be able to tell any difference, really? Other than Sam won't have to rub his hand anymore?
I really don't get it. I hope this is not how it's going to be all hiatus long...
Please, folks, could you try to not be so bitter, so sarcastic? How does this help?
This is a mere announcement that Misha will return, soon. The rest is speculation, don't you think?
I have to admit, I have not followed most of the Death Door discussions but referred to my experience of reading other recent threads.
To me it seems as if some fans only wait for a chance to come out with their reproaches - about how one or the other character are being treated unfairly by the writers.
I can't find it in me to watch this show like that, and it's the kind of discussion I find no pleasure in. It often lacks civility and tends to become quite unpleasant.
And yes, everything that is said is speculation. However, I assumed that is what these forums are for, speculation and debate. I imagine that's why this news was revealed now, so it would be discussed at length. And (quite selfishly) I must admit, I'd find it a phenomenally quiet midterm if there was no speculation.
Well not really has Sam is supposed to be the other lead. And Castiel tends to be a Dean character and looking at how they have approached Sams sl so far it does not make a pretty picture .
I do enjoy reading the discussions though, some of the threads do bring insight to things I may not have noticed.
Sorry. I am not a well-known poster around here, and I did not mean for my tone to come across as sarcastic or bitter.
I direct you to John Kubicek over at Buddytv.com. He gives theories of how Misha will return to the show and the one I like best, is that it is not Cas returning, but Jimmy.
Tv.ign.com also has a picture of Cas and his wings from Lazarus Rising, with the caption 'Assbutts beware'.
In addition to that, I think Cas could also do a lot of good for Sam. He does have healing powers, as we've seen, and it's possible that Dean has never had the major breakdown from Hell that everyone was expecting because Cas made it manageable for him, somehow. If it's revealed that something like that did happen, and that Cas does have those abilities, he could potentially alleviate Sam's hallucinations and the acuity of the memories to the point where Sam can live a decent life.
Coming back to soothe both brothers' souls would be an excellent payoff for the character if he's to leave again after three episodes. If he's back for a semi-regular position going into the next season, and neither of those resolution-y things happen, all the better! He's a great addition to the show.
I'm not trying to incite a board war, or be "bitter and sarcastic". So all I will say is this would be my PERSONAL worst case scenario for a return of Castiel. Since this is all speculation, I won't go into why unless it happens, but what you just described would feel like a slap in the face to me. I understand your desire for this to happen, but I would hate that resolution.
I'm sorry I can't share in the joy of Misha's return, especially if he returns as Castiel. However I am going to see how the return is handled before I say much more.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXDyEHlRk8Y
My sort of Christmas song....
He is my second most fav. character after Sammy (and pls dont throw me out on this) and now i am on cloud seven or nine after days of heartbreak over Bobby. Something gr8 atlast.
Was reading all the articles on Death door and can only appreciate all the writers to have written such emotional and beautiful roundups on the episode which was brilliant in itself but heartbreaking too. For some reason feeling very low thinking Bobby is gone but reading certain posts (abt his tweet) think he wont be and now this second great news..wowwwwwwyyy
Actually some people like Sam more some like Dean more or some like Bobby more..i wont say anyone's importance is less than another in SPN ...i cant imagine SPN without Sammy or Dean (and for that matter without Bobby) they are pillars of SPN but i like to Have Cass as fourth pillar and thats just my opinion on my liking..i think its better for SPN to have more talents and broad storyline provided all stories are tied neatly which i agree with some that so far in S7 Sammy story is not dealt properly but i dont see why Cass/Misha arrival will cause anymore trouble..
I am loving it now jus please dont kill Bobby now and Misha only for 3 epi is like salt in food..want more pls
They've practically shoved the character out the door so fast before Episode 2 barely even began and didn't even bother giving him a decent tribute or mourning, this return is much awaited and much deserved and much needed.
Castiel is a character with his own value and importance, not some plot-tool, therefore his own storyline deserves to be done right as much as Sam and Dean. This season has been sorely lacking in charm and spark, Sam and Dean running around hunting monsters just isn't enough anymore, at least not for this viewer, that is so Season 1 that if I want to see it again, I would just pop back the DVDs, not waiting for a show to regress. I will be glad to have Cas back to fresh things up again and see some different interactions with the characters.
Not to mention Misha is an amazing actor, and his chemistry with the cast, especially Jensen, is off the charts, why the show would want to throw it out instead of using it to its fullest is beyond me!
I am so glad to hear this news, it's about time Cas came back and Misha came home! Kripke once called Misha the lightning in the bottle for the show and he was smart to keep him, now I can only hope they will continue to realize that.
Other than that one sentence though, everything else you said is awesome. Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm here! I can't wait to see Misha's return.
Castiel does nothing for Sam but then again nobody does anything for Sam so why not have Cas back if he comes back has the angel?
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