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S13 - Episode ten "Wayward Sisters”

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From Supernaturalwiki Season 13 spoilers from Comic-Con 2017

Wayward Sisters

Further news on the series was released during Comic-Con 2017. Alongside Kim Rhodes, Briana Buckmaster, Kathryn Newton and Katherine Ramdeen were confirmed for the series along with Clark Backo. The series will be launched through episodes 3, 9 and 10 of Season 13 of Supernatural Season 13.

A new character Patience (Clark Backo) - estranged granddaughter of psychic and returning character Missouri Mosely - will be introduced in episode three of Supernatural in Season 13.

From the press release of 23/7/2017:

Patience Turner, a new member of the Wayward Sisterhood. A high school over-achiever, Patience’s life is turned upside down when she discovers she’s a powerful psychic, a gift she inherited from her estranged grandmother (and season one Supernatural character) Missouri Moseley. Hunted by dark forces for her power, Patience finds refuge with Jody and her wayward family.

Episodes 9 and 10 of Supernatural in Season 13 will be the pilot episodes to launch the potential spin-off.
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Supernatural Season 13 Spoiler Sheet!

Title: Wayward Sisters
Written by: Robert Berens and Andrew Dabb
Filming Dates: October 25 - November 5.
Airdate: February 1 or February 8
Guest stars: Kim Rhodes (Jody Mills), Briana Buckmaster (Donna Hanscum), Kathryn Love Newton (Claire Novak), Katherine Ramdeen (Alex Jones), Clark Backo (Patience Turner).

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This episode will be the Wayward Sister backdoor pilot
New Orleans convention to occur during filming
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PART (MOST) OF THE SONG I WROTE FOR @WaywardDaughtrs/#WaywardSisters :D :D :D @kimrhodes4real @OfficialBrianaB
10:52 PM - 18 Aug 2017

Video: https://twitter.com/CierraSuee/status/898754436750757889
Download: https://soundcloud.com/cierra-gathers/monsters-and-other-things-we-dont-talk-about

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It is pretty awesome. :)
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From Supernatural Season 13 Spoiler sheet

Airdate: January 25

Castiel? Possibly

Guest stars: Kim Rhodes (Jody Mills), Briana Buckmaster (Donna Hanscum), Kathryn Love Newton (Claire Novak), Katherine Ramdeen (Alex Jones), Clark Backo (Patience Turner), Yadira Guevara-Prip (Kaia)

Other Spoilers/info (newest to oldest):

The actresses have started fight training long before filming.
According to Briana, there will be six characters, all female but not all straight (!).
Bob Singer hinted at SDCC that the Wayward girls would be dealing with a stationary, Hellmouth type of situation.
Kim revealed at the ChiCon PJ party that the Wayward backdoor pilot would be the midseason premiere.
This episode will be the Wayward Sister backdoor pilot
New Orleans convention to occur during filming
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The #SPNFamily asked for it? You got it! @cw_spn The 2 part episode you've been waiting for is in the final stage
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How 'Wayward Sisters' Will Be Different from 'Supernatural' from BuddyTV

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The long-awaited and much-requested Supernatural spin-off, Wayward Sisters, isn't quite a go just yet. There are no official plans for the spin-off, besides the fact that an episode of Supernatural season 13 will serve as a backdoor pilot for the series. Even if there is no series pick-up, let alone series premiere date for the show, that doesn't mean a fair bit of thought hasn't gone into the project. In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, the cast and crew talked about the spin-off and how Wayward Sisters separates itself from its parent series.

The obvious difference between Wayward Sisters and Supernatural is that the spin-off will be female-focused, as opposed to the male-heavy Supernatural. Kim Rhodes (who will play the show's lead Jody Mills) doesn't like to view things that simply. It's not "Supernatural with girls," she explained. "It's Supernatural with heroes that happen to be female."

However the show, if picked up, will function a lot differently from Supernatural but it'll begin in a somewhat similar way. Claire Novak, who has been out on her own, will return to her home with Jody Mills and find things a little different. (Not too dissimilar to Dean finding Sam after many years apart in the Supernatural pilot.)

Claire will discover that Jody has taken in a new surrogate daughter, Patience. Patience is a psychic, and the granddaughter of Supernatural's Missouri Moseley. Claire will find herself at odds with Patience and that uneasy and unconventional family dynamic will be something that plays out throughout the series. The cast (and family) will be rounded out by Jody's partner, Donna, and two other surrogate daughters, returning character Alex and newcomer Kaia.

While Supernatural has always been about the brotherly relationship between Sam and Dean, Wayward Sisters will be about mothers, daughters and bonds of friendship. As much Claire and Patience will find themselves fighting, Claire will be very close to other newcomer Kaia. "She wants to keep Kaia safe," Kathryn Love Newton, who plays Claire, said. "It's really important to her, and you'll find out why."

The most compelling difference between Wayward Sisters and Supernatural will be that Wayward won't be another "road show." Jody's surrogate family will stay in one spot, in the town of Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Executive producer Andrew Dabb made that decision because he wanted to build a community for the show. "This is a place where romance can happen. Or rivalry," he explained.

The central location will also add in a bit of fantasy for the series. The show's version of Sioux Falls will have a personality and character, with monsters inhabiting it and the family trying to protect their home. "This is an opportunity to do something in the world of Supernatural that has some of the sensibilities of Supernatural but addresses a lot of issues, scenarios and characters that are very different," Dabb said.

Wayward Sisters is in the very early stages but everything sounds very promising. The show seems to have developed an identity outside of Supernatural, but still has elements and, of course, characters that fans will want to see explored more. It wouldn't just be a shock if Wayward Sisters doesn't become it's own series, it would be a shame too.
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Wayward Sisters: Get the first details on the Supernatural spin-off from EW

In June, The CW announced Wayward Sisters,
 a potential Supernatural spin-off — with a backdoor pilot set to air as Supernatural‘s first episode of 2018 — about a group of troubled women who’ve all been orphaned by supernatural tragedy. Led by the late Jimmy Novak’s daughter, Claire (Kathryn Love Newton), and under the training of sheriffs Jody Mills (Kim Rhodes) and Donna Hanscum (Briana Buckmaster), they’ll become a monster-fighting force. “This is an opportunity to do something in the world of Supernatural that has some of the sensibilities of Supernatural but addresses a lot of issues, scenarios, and characters that are very different,” executive producer Andrew Dabb says.

It all begins when Claire comes home. “Claire went out, she kicked ass on her own, but a crisis will occur that will force her back into the fold of the Wayward family,” EP Robert Berens explains. And though the show will have a similar feel to Supernatural — Kim Rhodes calls it a “perfect sibling” to the series — one of its biggest differences is location. While Supernatural is a road show, Wayward will be localized in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, a decision that Dabb says allows them to create a real community. “This is a place where romance can happen. Or rivalry,” he says.

Speaking of which, Claire arrives home to find that her caretaker, Jody, has taken in a new psychic named Patience (Clark Backo), the granddaughter of Missouri Moseley (Loretta Devine), and she won’t exactly be happy about it. “[Jody] is constantly saying, ‘My door is always open,’ and she does it again in episode 3 of this season where we meet Patience,” Rhodes says. Dabb adds that Patience will serve as the “eyes of the show” when she walks in as the new girl. “Everyone else is like, ‘Sometimes we do autopsies of monsters on the dinner table.’ She’s like, ‘That’s insane! That’s not a thing people do.’ She’s there to offer a little bit of perspective.”

Rounding out the family is Alex (Katherine Ramdeen), the first girl Jody took in and the closest thing she has to a daughter, and Kaia (Yadira Guevara-Prip), 
a new addition who has the ability to walk between worlds in her dreams. “Kaia has been on her own for a long time,” Dabb says. “She’s not sure who she can trust, but she starts to form certain bonds and relationships that make it clear that this is the place she needs to be.” One of those bonds will be with Claire, whom Kathryn Love Newton reveals saves Kaia’s life when they first come into contact. “She wants to keep Kaia safe,” Newton says. “It’s really important to her, and you’ll find out why.”

As for Kaia’s ability to walk between worlds, Newton says the story “does have a little more of a fantasy vibe” than Supernatural, though it still has what she calls the “core Supernatural dynamic.” As Berens puts it, they approached the spin-off with the attitude of: “What’s a show that’s like Supernatural but different?” And although one of the key differences is the fact that this show features women at its center, Rhodes says it’s not “Supernatural with girls.” Rather, as she puts it, “It’s Supernatural with heroes that happen to be female.”

But unlike Supernatural, Wayward features a much larger support system for the central characters, a key detail for the writers. “What is possible if you have more than just a sibling relationship to guide you through this process,” Berens says. “Could it be different? Could it be less psychologically and physically damaging than what we’ve seen Sam and Dean go through? That’s a really core question of the show.”

Speaking of Sam and Dean, there is a reason why they don’t just show up and help out. Rhodes promises, “It’s made very clear why this is happening without Sam and Dean, although there’s a beautiful opportunity for them to come visit.”

After all, Jody’s door is always open.
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Supernatural's Kim Rhodes will star as Jody Mills in Wayward Sisters, a spinoff series co-starring her character’s foster family.

Supernatural is proving that, much like its main characters, its unrealized spinoff aspirations never truly stay dead. Indeed, it appears that the television continuity of the long-running CW mainstay in which brothers Sam and Dean Winchester hunt monsters across the country will see a new addition, this time headlined by an established fan-favorite character.

Back in June, THR reported that The CW will take another stab with its proverbial angel blade to develop a Supernatural spinoff series. This spinoff attempt will be titled Wayward Sisters in a nod to Kansas’s 1976 hit “Carry on Wayward Son,” which Supernatural regularly plays during the prologue recaps for season finale episodes. Here, Kim Rhodes stars as her long-running Supernatural character in Sioux Falls sheriff Jody Mills, joined by young female cohorts, each tragically orphaned in attacks by monsters.

Wayward Sisters News

Some intriguing plot details for Wayward Sisters have arrived by way of an EW interview with the cast and key producers.

First and foremost, it was revealed that – unlike its road-trip-rocking Winchesters-led main series – Wayward Sisters will be a stationary series, primarily setting itself in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, where protagonist Jody Mills (Kim Rhodes) serves as sheriff. Hinting a more community-centric series, co-executive producer Robert Berens states, “This is a place where romance can happen. Or rivalry.”

Wayward Sisters will first take shape with a midseason backdoor pilot in the freshly-premiered Supernatural Season 13 in the first episode of 2018. There, we’ll witness the initial assemblage of the would-be spinoff series main players, starting with the reunification of the foster family of Jody Mills, which was left fractured after a werewolf-related incident in Season 11 saw Claire Novak (Kathryn Love Newton) go off on her own (though she resurfaced solo in a Season 12 episode). As Berens explains:

“Claire went out, she kicked ass on her own, but a crisis will occur that will force her back into the fold of the Wayward family.”

The most recent addition to the Wayward Sisters cast, Yadira Guevara-Prip, who plays dream-walker Kaia, will also uniquely fit into the dynamic, albeit reluctantly. The character has become wary of people after having been out on her own for a long time. Yet, it’s an experience that matches that of the returning Claire. Indeed, Love-Newton describes a bond that will inevitably form after the two meet when Claire saves Kaia’s life, stating:

“[Kaia is] not sure who she can trust, but she starts to form certain bonds and relationships that make it clear that this is the place she needs to be.” Adding, “She [Claire] wants to keep Kaia safe. It’s really important to her, and you’ll find out why.”

Star Kim Rhodes, who eschews the idea that Wayward Sisters will simply be “Supernatural with girls,” calls it “a perfect sibling.” Rhodes reveals that we won’t have to wait that long for the initial seeds of the spinoff, since the introduction to one its primary players in newcomer Patience Turner (Clark Backo) is near. Patience is the psychic-powers-inheriting granddaughter of Season 1’s Missouri Mosely. As Rhodes explains:

“[Jody] is constantly saying, ‘My door is always open,’ and she does it again in Episode 3 of this season where we meet Patience.”

Co-executive producer Andrew Dabb chimes in on Patience’s place in the cast dynamic, describing her as the “eyes of the show.” Yet, her status as a newcomer, not only to the series, but the Supernatural universe, also makes her an overwhelmed layperson with whom audiences can identify. According to Dabb:

“Everyone else is like, ‘Sometimes we do autopsies of monsters on the dinner table.’ She’s like, ‘That’s insane! That’s not a thing people do.’ She’s there to offer a little bit of perspective.”

It's certainly sounding like Wayward Sisters, by planting roots in its Sioux Falls setting, will focus more on the dynamic of its large cast – at least when not decapitating and/or disemboweling monsters.

Wayward Sisters Cast

While it seemed like a forgone conclusion that Wayward Sisters would see its main cast boosted by role reprisals for the foster family of Supernatural’s Jody Mills in Kathryn Newton as Claire Novak and Katherine Ramdeen as Alex Jones, consider that idea gospel. Deadline confirms that deals have been made for both of them to co-star in the spinoff.

However, the report also indicates that the Wayward Sisters cast will get some intriguing backup in the form of two cast additions, with one familiar face from the mothership show and one newcomer with a legacy.

Brianna Buckmaster (Devil in the Dark) joins the series as Sheriff Donna Hanscum. The character was introduced in Supernatural Season 9 as a small-town local sheriff in Stillwater, MN who found herself immersed in the Winchesters’ investigation of a local weight-loss spa, which was a front for monsters that crave human fat. While she starts out rather eccentric, with fragile self-esteem, her continued edification about the hidden world of monsters in subsequent episode appearances – which included a team-up with Jody Mills – eventually helped Donna evolve into a monster-decapitating badass with a badge. With the character having become a fan favorite, this will be quite a welcome cast addition.

Clark Backo (Designated Survivor) joins the series as Patience Turner, a new character with a surprising connection to one of Supernatural’s earliest episodes. Patience’s path to joining the battle against monsters with the Wayward Sisters will start when her life as an overachieving high school student is completely sidetracked by the revelation that she possesses potent psychic powers; a gift inherited from her grandmother and Supernatural Season 1 character Missouri Moseley, who will also make an appearance.

Loretta Devine (The Carmichael Show) will make an appearance as Missouri Moseley, who passes on her psychic gift to granddaughter Patience. This will be a role reprisal for Devine that’s 12 years in the making. Missouri’s lone appearance occurred in Supernatural Season 1, Episode 9, “Home” (aired Nov. 15, 2005), in which she helped the Winchesters with a spiritual predicament.

Yadira Guevara-Prip is the latest cast addition. She will play Kaia Nieves, a character who fits the show’s titular profile of a Wayward Sister, having lost her family at a young age. She’s described as having a “flinty, sarcastic” personality, matched by a strong will. Moreover, Kaia also brings her own bit of supernatural to this Supernatural spinoff, since she’s a dream-walker, possessing the power to walk between worlds in her dreams. However, she’s not quite in tune with her gift or the familial roots from which it originated and sees it as a curse, resulting in her being overwhelmed by her dream-walking experiences.

A newcomer, Guevara-Prip, only had a few short film appearances banked before fielding a recurring role on the Belize-set Amazon crime-comedy series Mad Dogs. She’s also booked to appear in an untitled TV movie from writer Jenny Lumet (The Mummy 2017). However, Wayward Sisters – should it move forward as a series – would be her very first regular run on a television series. That prospect, however, depends on how well the Wayward Sisters introduction fares when it first manifests as a backdoor pilot on Supernatural Season 13, in which Guevara-Prip’s Kaia Nieves will reportedly debut with the rest of the spinoff cast.

Wayward Sisters Details

Wayward Sisters will be in steady hands with Supernatural showrunners Andrew Daab and Robert Singer handling scriptwriting duties, joined by franchise-familiar executive producers in Phil Sgricca and Robert Berens. Like the previous attempted Supernatural spinoff a few years ago in the monster-family-centric Supernatural: Bloodlines, Wayward Sisters will first manifest with an exposition-setting backdoor pilot, this time during the upcoming Season 13. The spinoff is expected to showcase some established characters, while introducing some new faces.

On Supernatural, Jody Mills – introduced in Season 5 when struck by a zombie-related tragedy that claimed her husband and son – ended up adopting a duo of teens. Claire Novak (Kathryn Love Newton), was introduced in Season 4 (first played by Sydney Imbeau,) as the daughter of angel Castiel’s bodily vessel. Annie “Alex” Jones (Katherine Ramdeen) was introduced in Season 9 in tragic circumstances, trafficked as bait for vampire victims before the Winchesters intervened. Since Jody's foster family often find themselves drawn into the monster-hunting orbit of the Winchesters, a spinoff centering on them has been pitched by many-a-fan.

Wayward Sisters Premiere Date

While Wayward Sisters doesn't have a premiere date set in stone, the series will kick off with a backdoor pilot episode in Supernatural Season 13. That season will premiere on The CW on October 12.

Wayward Sisters is the Supernatural spinoff for which fans have been clamoring. The framework and character dynamic with Jody Mills’s all-female foster family is already there for the taking.
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Wayward Sisters: Get the first details on the Supernatural spin-off from EW

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In June, The CW announced Wayward Sisters,
 a potential Supernatural spin-off — with a backdoor pilot set to air as Supernatural‘s first episode of 2018 — about a group of troubled women who’ve all been orphaned by supernatural tragedy. Led by the late Jimmy Novak’s daughter, Claire (Kathryn Love Newton), and under the training of sheriffs Jody Mills (Kim Rhodes) and Donna Hanscum (Briana Buckmaster), they’ll become a monster-fighting force. “This is an opportunity to do something in the world of Supernatural that has some of the sensibilities of Supernatural but addresses a lot of issues, scenarios, and characters that are very different,” executive producer Andrew Dabb says.

It all begins when Claire comes home. “Claire went out, she kicked ass on her own, but a crisis will occur that will force her back into the fold of the Wayward family,” EP Robert Berens explains. And though the show will have a similar feel to Supernatural — Kim Rhodes calls it a “perfect sibling” to the series — one of its biggest differences is location. While Supernatural is a road show, Wayward will be localized in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, a decision that Dabb says allows them to create a real community. “This is a place where romance can happen. Or rivalry,” he says.

Speaking of which, Claire arrives home to find that her caretaker, Jody, has taken in a new psychic named Patience (Clark Backo), the granddaughter of Missouri Moseley (Loretta Devine), and she won’t exactly be happy about it. “[Jody] is constantly saying, ‘My door is always open,’ and she does it again in episode 3 of this season where we meet Patience,” Rhodes says. Dabb adds that Patience will serve as the “eyes of the show” when she walks in as the new girl. “Everyone else is like, ‘Sometimes we do autopsies of monsters on the dinner table.’ She’s like, ‘That’s insane! That’s not a thing people do.’ She’s there to offer a little bit of perspective.”

Rounding out the family is Alex (Katherine Ramdeen), the first girl Jody took in and the closest thing she has to a daughter, and Kaia (Yadira Guevara-Prip), 
a new addition who has the ability to walk between worlds in her dreams. “Kaia has been on her own for a long time,” Dabb says. “She’s not sure who she can trust, but she starts to form certain bonds and relationships that make it clear that this is the place she needs to be.” One of those bonds will be with Claire, whom Kathryn Love Newton reveals saves Kaia’s life when they first come into contact. “She wants to keep Kaia safe,” Newton says. “It’s really important to her, and you’ll find out why.”

As for Kaia’s ability to walk between worlds, Newton says the story “does have a little more of a fantasy vibe” than Supernatural, though it still has what she calls the “core Supernatural dynamic.” As Berens puts it, they approached the spin-off with the attitude of: “What’s a show that’s like Supernatural but different?” And although one of the key differences is the fact that this show features women at its center, Rhodes says it’s not “Supernatural with girls.” Rather, as she puts it, “It’s Supernatural with heroes that happen to be female.”

But unlike Supernatural, Wayward features a much larger support system for the central characters, a key detail for the writers. “What is possible if you have more than just a sibling relationship to guide you through this process,” Berens says. “Could it be different? Could it be less psychologically and physically damaging than what we’ve seen Sam and Dean go through? That’s a really core question of the show.”

Speaking of Sam and Dean, there is a reason why they don’t just show up and help out. Rhodes promises, “It’s made very clear why this is happening without Sam and Dean, although there’s a beautiful opportunity for them to come visit.”

After all, Jody’s door is always open.
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