Hellatus Speculation - What Does This Look Mean?
Friday, 14 May 2010 20:54 | Last Updated on Tuesday, 06 July 2010 17:14 | Written by Alice Jester | 
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Okay, I keep reading all the wild speculation and it's Hellatus, so it's time to start something here. This is Sam's final glare at Dean in "Swan Song." So, is he happy, sad, indifferent, mad, what the hell does it mean?? What is Sam? Is he human, angel, demon, ghost, what do you think? Is the burning out light a sign or Kripke messing with us?
So, speculate away. We've got all summer!
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So, speculate away. We've got all summer!
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Also, season 6 is going to start with the boys hunting the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.
But yeah, if it's not just Jared's "don't give anything away" look, then I think it's Sam trying to decide if he should let Dean know that he's there.
PS.I think he's back, human, and trying to work out if he should leave Dean to his domestic bliss or tell him the game's back on. ( Ardeospina, just as long as it's not the Bertie Bassett Dr. Who Monster ...
Also, after they destroy the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man, they will use some marhmallowey bits to bait Snuggles the Fabric Softener Teddy Bear and destroy it too!
Call me crazy, but I felt instantly reminded of one, probably the most famous, shot of Greta Garbo - the final scene of 'Queen Christina': she looks out to the sea, and her look could mean anything. She reportedly asked the director, Rouben Mamoulian, what she should express in this last shot, and he replied: 'Nothing. Absolutely nothing. You must make your mind and your heart a complete blank. Make your face into a mask.'
I think this expression on Jared's face leaves so much room for guessing, I could imagine that being exactly Kripke's intent.
He could be human Sam, being rewarded with his life and redemption after sacrificing himself, he could be demon Sam - which would also be a great idea: a good demon fighting on Dean's side. Can't imagine Dean taking to this easily, though.
Personally, I'm glad that we were given this last scene, confusing as it is, to know that Sam is back with the first episode of season six. As what or who - I'm okay with anything, I guess. If Jared had the chance to flex his well-trained acting muscles some more with portraying even more layers of this character, I'd be so happy for him and probably very proud to see him evolve even more as an actor.
So, bring it on... HOw long is it till September?
Love Jas
Now, am I wrong? I hope. Since I would like the brothers to be together again. Both as humans.
On the other hand - if God decides to bring him back, He might also have the power, being almighty and all that, to bring Sam to life in whatever form he pleases.
I've had several theories on the matter: the flickering light could indicate that Sam is a demon or an angel or that a demon or angel placed him there.
I don't care really at this point. Still digesting the episode. As I said earlier, I'm fine with everything that will offer Jared to give us some great acting.
Love Jas
Theories about the Ominous Flickering Light so far:
1. God brought Sam back as an angel
2. Sam came back as a demon
3. Kripke did it to screw with us, and it has no significance
4. Kripke did it screw with us, but it has a significance, which we most probably won't find out about until the season 10 finale
5. The rings did not work - Luci and Mike jumping/falling into the hole was just an illusion
We still have the rest of the hiatus to think abt this :roll::
I think the flickering light was whatever power it was that brought him back.
All I want to know is if Sam still has his demon bloody powers. Ooh, or if he has his powers without demon blood!
I think God did bring Sam back. I really don't think he would have restore everything else of Team Free Will and not Sam. Logical thing would have been to do it at the same time as Cass. But that wouldn't have given us a cliff hanger for next season. THAT was Kripke messing with us.
It looks more to me that he is sad, thinking he should not tell Dean he's alive and let his brother try a normal life. Or he's sad because he can't tell Dean he's alive....I hope we don't have another soul selling thing going on here. The myth arc is over, and we are supposed to be moving on.
I think Sam is human. I also think the flickering lights have nothing to do with Sam. That it's something else, maybe even the new (or old) big bad stalking Dean and Sam is there to stop it. Lucifer and Michael may be in the cage and the Apocalypse is over but that doesn't mean demons will go away. If nothing else, Meg is still out there and I'm sure she will have an ax to grind.
I interpret that look to mean, Dean kept his promise and Sam is debating within himself whether to reveal himself to Dean or let him live on in a more normal life with Lisa and (perhaps, I keep hoping) his son. Sam managed to survive normally at Stanford with Jess, and thinks perhaps that Dean can be happy without him. He is so WRONG! But then, Sam has been wrong before. As he was in "Shadow" when he told Dean if they killed the YEDemon he would go back to school and Dean would have to let him go, and asked Dean what he wanted. Dean wanted his family to be together. Sam believed they were family whether together or apart. That is not what Dean feels or needs. Dean needs Sam like a thirsty man in the desert needs water.
So I'm hoping Sam won't leave Dean suffering for too long into next season before showing up and I hope we get a great big hug we have been longing for for two seasons now since the one in Lazarus Rising.
Just my two cents.
So I'm actually most curious about what the end of this season would've looked like if it had also been end of the SERIES.
And agree with Megan, too, there seems to be some satisfaction, like, this is what Sam wanted all the way - let Dean live a normal life - and seeing him with Lisa and Ben having dinner in a nice house, it looks like Sam's thinking "Mission accomplished".
And it also looks like a totally blank glare.
Well, one thing's for sure: Sam's final look is messing with the fandom
He looks... very somber, yet tiny hopefull and maybe happy but definitely torn. And yet it's a look I've never seen on Sam so who knows?
But I do too think he's human, brought back by God. And maybe the light flickering means something but like Jas, I don't really care, as long as he's back, I'm exhilarated. And if it did (mean something), well then, that could only mean more drama for next season and I'm 100% onboard with that, the little angstybitc.h that I am.
I can't wait for Season 6, is it september yet?
But I am hopeful and it feels so refreshing. This hellatus ain't gonna be so bad as the others *she says in complete denial*
Aaaah, Kripke. You sure like to mess with us. Job well done yet again
And Bravo Jared for that look. It haunts me. Beautiful, like poetry. Reminds me of that poem Jas dedicated (for the lack of a better word) to Sam, Alone by Poe was it? Man, that look seems like the embodiment of that lovely piece.
And Ardeospina, Suze, Freebird, I'm with you
I'm really curious as to how this ending would've gone down if it had been a true series finale too
Hey, it makes sense to me. Remember there was a big explosion before the hole closed up. Maybe the vessels burned away and Sam and Adam went to Heaven. So this could be Sam's spirit checking in on Dean. Just a thought.
Just read your post, Alice, and this idea is really moving me - that Sam did find redemption and was allowed to Heaven.
So, Sam returned for this moment, if it be that way, as a spirit?
Though the idea is appealing, I would love him to be a 'being' of flesh and blood in the next season instead a Supernatural version of My Friend Harvey. Which is also a funny thought.
Ah, well, waiting till September does already prove to be cruel...
Supernarttu, it's interesting, you know, I thought of that poem again, too. It ends with 'the cloud that took the form, when the rest of Heaven was blue, of a demon in my view.' Who is he? What is he? Kripke might just be messing with us, but he does it wonderfully. I hate him for the long wait with this image in my head, I love him for creating this show.
I'm gonna get myself a t-shirt saying 'I'm schizophrenic' on the front and 'Me too' on the back. Seems fitting.
Cheers! Jas
I wonder if the Croatoan storyline is completely wiped out or will we find it again sooner or later? Were the distributions entirely stopped? Even if that virus was one of Lucifer's plans to set the Apocalypse in motion, there might be some renegade demons like Crowley who will find out that it might be useful to them... If only to make a lot of 'human' money for the vaccine...
A crazy part of my brain would love to see Sam and Dean (provided they will hunt together again in one way or another) travel back in time to Roanoke to find out about that lost colony (both guys in colonial garp? Would be quite a sight).
I'm holding on to Sera Gamble's word that it will be an intimate, personal season. Lots of emotional challenges, I guess, but I signed on to this when I started watching and loving this show. It has put my soul through a meat grinder countless times, but it has also inspired me, made me laugh like crazy, had my mind working and challenged it. I love that, food for brain and heart...
Love Jas
1. When Sam was getting ready to kill Lillith he had to drink more demon blood than Ruby could provide. They saved the nurse so Sam could "power up" before the big showdown. Someone..can't remember now..Cas? said that consuming that much db would change Sam forever. Anna could see the change happening and I bet so can Cas. Sam never expected to survive the altercation with Lillith and was fine with the sacrifice. No one expected God to zap them up into an airplane and have Sam not experience any ill effects or withdrawals.
BUT for Lucifer--that was 2 demons drained completely. What if that same rule applied? What if consuming that much db changed Sam forever and now he was a Demon. Of course not expecting to ever come out of the pit...Sam was fine with the sacrifice. Humanity is saved and is Dean has the chance he's always wanted. A chance for a normal "apple pie" life.
2. Crowley==so far Crowley's been on the up and up. He seems to be the demon we can trust. He helped the boys as much as he could. Of course it served his purposes and the desired ends. Still...trust. What if Crowley was our introduction for Dean trusting a Demon?
3. Sam is brought back alive from the pit but forever changed now. He is now a demon. He sacrificed his humanity FOR Humanity. Though Dean would be ecstatic that Sam is alive...he has always made it very clear where he stands on Sam's demon powers. Dean would rather have Sam dead as a Human than be alive as a 'monster' (WTLB). Being a "Twilight" fan myself I thought of an analogy. Sam is our own Supernatural "Edward". The Demon with a soul who fights for Humanity and against evil things. Dean, a human with a demon brother on one side, and an Angel on the other!
Don't kill me! It's just a thought that popped in and I wouldn't be able to go to sleep tonight if I didn't put it out there.
I think between the light going out and the thunder in the background it could mean he is not quite human. This along with all the blood he had to drink in the end I'm not sure he will ever be human again no matter what happens...they are obviously leaving it open though.
I see many people were disappointed with Sam's reapperance. I always try to respect the opinions of others but honestly, I don't see how the idea of Sam spending the eternity in Hell could be a satisfactory ending.
And the Amulet! I cant say how much I love the idea of Dean finding it among Sam's things. That would be so perfect. Dean is angry at God for taking Sam from him but if he gets Sam back his faith will be restored. I think tyhe Amulet is going to play a partin that. I just can't believe they just forgot it!
As for what he is....The only thing I know for sure is that he isn't Lucifer. To have all that has happened be for nothing is probably the one thing that would make me not watch anymore. My theory is that it is Sam, but the demon blood changed him. He's not evil, just different. Coming to terms with that could be a plot thread for season 6. It could also explain why he doesn't go right up and knock on the door. If Dean is "happy" in his apple-pie life, Sam might be wary of introducing the supernatural back into it. Even if that includes himself.
Trina- I agree that Sam would be hesitant to reintroduce supernatural things if Dean seems happy in his life.
I don't want Sam to be an angel or a demon but 100% human again and lacking all that demon baggage he's carried for so long. I was so grateful that Dean did not become a mere meat suit for Michael. Dean Winchester is a human hero and I had no wish to see him otherwise. And he did manage to be the catalyst that sent Luci back into his cage so I consider him to have "ended it" as well as "started it" and have no quibble with him not being in a Michael suit at the finale.
According to Ruby (if you can believe anything she said) it takes hundreds of years in hell before a human soul turns into a demon. And in "Houses of the Holy" it was said that men cannot become angels.
And I definitely don't want to see bad stuff happen to Lisa and Ben just because she was kind enough to take Dean in and give him some comfort.
I'm all for them back in the Impala "Saving people, hunting things" again, arguing, teasing, saving and loving each other without the "chick flick" stuff.
We really have no way of knowing what kind of time has passed from the time Sam fell into the pit and when he shows up outside of Lisa's house. Though someone noted Sam is wearing the same clothes he was when he fell. I have a feeling that some time has passed. 5.01 they had the brothers reunited but it had been 4 months. And it is worrisome that Bobby and Dean don't talk "for some time". When Dean died...Sam wouldn't talk to Bobby either and it was well noted that Bobby sought liquor to ease his mind. I can see how it would be hard to be around someone who shares memories with you when the pain is too raw. I mean...I understand...I've been there. It is easier to be with people who dont' know. Lisa never really knew Sam. Dean really can start fresh and new. Granted..he will be pretending and hiding all of his hurt and despair because that is his way. But still...it is easier than to see someone else's pain relfected back at you when it mirrors your own.
But I am certain that the main purpose of this scene is to make us speculate throughout the whole summer!
If not true, and many also feel Kripke would not want the boys to survive, both boys would have gone into the pit. Dean would not have let Sammy go by himself, knowing what hell was like. He wouldn’t have left his brother go alone, and we all would have had to be satisfied with the boys saving the world, and giving their all for us.
This ending with Dean alive, in pain, Sam a ‘something’, not happy, is the in-between for a cliff hanger.
Really what has been said in the past for any of their episodes can always be changed. SPN has changed their story before, many times. The myth arc is supposed to be over, and maybe the Lucifer/Michael/Zack/God part is, but maybe the demons, possession, flickering lights aren’t.
For me I REALLY hope Kripke meant it when he said the arc was over, and keeps his word. That the boys ARE going back to the season one format of hunting baddies as a brotherly team, that brother strife, separation, fighting is OVER. It really is time to move on!
I'm sure there will be angst..because that's where the drama is and we care for our boys. I'm really looking forward to S6.
Well I hope that Sam is Sam. Completely human and that that look in his face is just he struggling with the options of 1) tell Dean that he's back and they keep together again or 2) not tell Dean he's back and leave him to leave a apple pie life.
Mess with the fans heads all hellatus long: check!
There are a lot of people who are glad the myth arc ended, myself included, and to start the 'new, back to the begining' season 6 with some kind of posession, or separation of the brothers again is not the best of ideas.
To end the arc with both boys happy and hunting would have sent a much better message to the viewers, that yes, SPN is going back to it's roots. It would have also given new viewers next fall, and viewers who left the show because of either not likeing the myth arc or not being able to follow the arc, a good reason to try the show again.
To me Sam was resurrected, 100% Sam. His look to me is a bit sad and longing. Torn between reuniting with his brother or letting his brother go to live his own life.
Or as Suze said, its just a ploy to bring us all back next season. Your right Suze as if we wouldn’t be coming back.
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