An Official Response From A People's Choice Rep on Supernatural's Exclusion From Broadcast
Friday, 13 January 2012 20:32 | Last Updated on Friday, 13 January 2012 20:59 | Written by Alice Jester | 
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After two days of total silence from The People's Choice Awards or CBS regarding the decision not to broadcast Supernatural's win in the Best Network Drama category (an award traditionally broadcast), a response has surfaced. Granted, it's hardly a response from a high level manager from either organization, but it's an "official" line.
Ruth Moats, one of our most loyal visitors here to The Winchester Family Business, send official complaints to Proctor and Gamble, organizers of The People's Choice awards and CBS. She received a response from a rep in the PR office for P&G. She has graciously allowed me to share this response.
Thanks for contacting us, Ruth.
We’re sorry you’re upset the cast of Supernatural wasn’t featured on The
People’s Choice Awards. The show is comprised of 43 categories and we made
every effort to showcase a variety of categories on the network broadcast.
Unfortunately, only 14-15 of those categories can fit into a two hour television
show.
The cast of Supernatural was not invited because their acceptance speeches were
not being aired. The cast was aware of this and chose not to attend, but had
they expressed an interest in attending the show, we would have gladly provided
them with tickets
Jenika
P&G Team
I've read a lot of debate in fan comments the last few days over whether or not the boys were truly invited. So now we know, they could have gone if they wanted, but they never got an official invitation. Ruth has allowed to let me share her response too, which has yet to be answered at this time.
I find this explanation to be totally unacceptable.
The premise of your awards is that they're voted on by the fans and represent who the fans believe as being their favorite.
Supernatural won 2 awards! One of them being BEST TV NETWORK DRAMA! Don't tell me that this isn't an award that should have been showcased on the show.
The last 4 awards proved that your statement below is totally false.
Even the Oscars showcase the technical awards during their program.....
If your show is not going to show the awards because you (your company and producers) don't agree with the winner...then state it!
Don't hide behind false or misleading statements.
The CW is half owned by CBS and Warner Bros. and even though it isn't one of the top, that doesn't mean that you all have the right to shove it to the side.
Nor, do you have the right to dismiss the fans who also consumers from shoving them to the side.
A PUBLISHED WRITTEN APOLOGY needs to be issued and just maybe, and I mean maybe, this situation can be reversed.
Otherwise, I will help to start a campaign to get CBS (who I feel should also take responsibility) to pull this award show from the broadcast schedule.
AND as a consumer, I will stop using Proctor & Gamble products and encourage others to do the same.
Sincerely,
Ruth L. Moats
PS. Since I probably will not get a response from you in regards to this email, please take note that this situation will not just blow over. The internet and twitter are quite hot with many unhappy parties, including many fan sites who's administrators are feeling used and abused. You have a PR nightmare situation! Please take this seriously!
So there's the official line as it stands. If there are any new developments in this fan debacle, I'll have it here! Thanks again to Ruth for sharing this very valuable information with us.
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I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT TO NEVER GO WHERE YOU ARE NOT WELCOME. MAYBE THE SOUTH IN ME BUT THERE.
They didn't air it because Supernatural won, if it was the Good Wife there would have been balloons and streamers (As Matt Mitovich) Said :) Hell even if VD won it would have aired..
The producers of the show didn't like Supernatural plain and simple.... They won't issue an apology, because they don't think they did anything wrong...
There's nothin' like not being invited to the party but then being told that if you beg nice they would let you in. This is even more of a slap in the face! And for a PR person to not see it is inconceivable! Seriously?
I'm really not one for boycotts of products and throwing a fit, but this is truly an insult and needs to hit them where it hurts, in the pocketbook. Funny, I just saw an article today about the power of social networks in making companies hear the PEOPLE. So that seems like an appropriate course of action considering this is the People's Choice.
Supernatural and the boys deserved so much better. This should have been a joyous occasion, not the bitter sting of once again being told the show and the fans are unworthy.
Nothing can diminish we won for our show. I only hope this nasty brouhaha doesn't taint that win. Supernatural earned those statues. The Js deserved to be on that stage accepting their awards and thanking their fans, and the fans deserved that 20 seconds worth of glory for our much-loved show.
B.J.
ONLY a public apology by PC to J2 and fans would satisfy me. Until then, no Procter & Gamble products for me either and no CBS shows!!!!!
Having said that, I do hope that we all don't let the anger and disappointment consume us to the level that we forget, that Supernatural won this award, it won two awards because it's deserved and because the fanbase wants and needs to communicate to the cast and crew of Supernatural how important they are to us and how thankful we are for their hard work, dedication and generosity.
So yes, by all means we should be angry and disapointed, but also try to remember what an achieve this was, whether it was broadcast or not.
OUR SHOW WON 2 AWARDS!
PCA can make all the excuses in the world for not airing their win, but they cannot change the fact that Supernatural kicked butt.
Congratulations Supernatural!
The sting comes from having that effort, both the 2Js and their terrific talent, and the fans who voted because of that talent, dismissed as unworthy of even a mention. Favorite TV Drama is one of the prestigious awards granted and there is no excusing or denying the snub.
I hope it is posted here what efforts can be made to lobby CBS to NOT carry this show again and for P&G to NOT support it with advertising dollars in a unified fan effort.
Also, I don't understand why nominees of such important categories weren't automatically on the invitation list. It's insulting.
This wasn't the Suits Choice Awards, this was the PEOPLE'S (read: FAN'S) Choice Awards. Buddy.
not being aired."
This was my reply:
Thank you for responding to my e-mail. However, I must point out that the time constraints do not explain that no mention of the Drama win was made when literally it would've taken just a few extra seconds for the Pretty Little Liar actors to add "and Favorite Network Drama" when they announced Supernatural had won SciFi/Fantasy. It also doesn't explain why Paul Wesley and Ian Somerhalder were invited to present instead of Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki, when Paul and Ian had not won anything and Supernatural beat The Vampire Diaries in both categories. Furthermore, saying you would've given them tickets to come as mere audience members to be snubbed in person does not make things better, it in fact adds insult to injury. Can you imagine having to sit in the audience watching people who didn't win anything get up on stage while knowing your wins are being unfairly ignored?
We know as well as you do that you deliberately buried the Favorite Network Drama win because you felt a CW genre show without even the buzz of the trendy vampire craze was not worthy. However, isn't that up to the people to decide? Isn't that the whole point of the People's Choice Awards? You may have felt Supernatural winning that category would've hurt the PCAs credibility. However, it is when the People's Choice Awards disrespect the people's choice that your credibility suffers.
At this point, I think the only apology that would stick would be to invite Jensen and Jared to present next year and introduce them as "Last year's winners in SciFi/Fantasy and Network Drama."
"You may have felt Supernatural winning that category would've hurt the PCAs credibility. However, it is when the People's Choice Awards disrespect the people's choice that your credibility suffers."
Great point!
Traci
pg_naconsumerrelations
You can also send your complaint to CBS using their feedback form:
http://www.cbs.com/info/user_services/fb_global_form.php
And btw, Clif Kosterman @bodyguard4JandJ tweeted again today that saying they were invited is "complete bullshit."
Take care!
Ruth
AGAIN, I DONT GO ANYWHERE I AM NOT WELCOME !
I don’t think this is doing the show any favours and I really hope you guys aren’t shooting yourselves (and the show) in the foot with it. All I know is that, based on this, the next time representatives from the show are invited to, or win at, an awards show I’m going to find myself asking are they there because it’s believed they deserve to be there or are they only there because the awards show are so intimidated by the potential backlash from fans they feel they have to ask/nominate them.
An apology was given (and the PCA’s were under no obligation to give it). At least have the good grace to accept it.
Yes, this could get very nasty but I'm hoping we can maintain our dignity as we fight for what is right. That is the Winchester Way!
What I hate the most is how this is overshadowing our wins. We should be joyous for the win, not feeling cheated. I, like many, spent much time and effort voting and then wasted almost two hours waiting for the payoff that never came. I think we're entitled to feel cheated.
The ball is in their court, let's see if they can man up and do what is right. A sincere apology and some change in how they conduct business is in order. No other show or cast should ever have their win diminished as they tried to do with Supernatural.
B.J.
But not only was House given the Drama award on air the three previous years, look what a big deal they made out of it! EVERYONE who ever set foot on the House set was invited! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0scUEW7B_I
Plus - and I don't want to sound dismissive here - it's the People's Choice Awards, not the Emmys.
But I'm not sure that Supernatural was 100% "robbed" of its recognition - the Best Sci-Fi win was mentioned on-air, and their Best Network Drama win was mentioned in the pre-show, which showed their acceptance speech. They were recognized - not in the way fans would have liked, but there was recognition.
I'll also freely admit that a good potion of my "what's the big deal?" attitude is due to my less-than-favorable view of the PCA's in general. The PCA's really have no sway in the industry and don't get much respect in general. It's an awards show that, according to a recent comment from Nigel Lythgoe, charges winners $4,000 for their award.
I really don't see people expressing their ire in this manner as hurting the show - I believe that PCA is dumbfounded by the backlash because despite SPN WINNING the categories, their perception of the show was still that it wasn't important enough or the boys weren't popular enough to include on the broadcast. If this outcry convinces them otherwise, I think that's a good thing.
Really, I think the mistake made by the PCA was not including Fav TV Drama in the telecast.
I agree with the poster who said "I'm sorry you're upset." is NOT an apology, but you're correct, they're under no obligation to give an apology at all.
However, why do you expect the PCA’s to apologise for whatever format they choose to use on their own show? Should they also apologise to the other 28-29 shows that didn’t get airtime? If (IF) their decision to not have anyone from the show was an intentional snub then it was a deliberated decision so why would they apologise for something they intended to do? If it wasn’t intentional then again, why should they apologise?
Mike, if you are smart enough to ‘realise it's bullshit’, then I assume that you are smart enough to know that there’s nothing the PCA’s can do about it now. The very most that will be done will be a forced apology and, for me, an apology gained under coercion is meaningless. It will reflect badly on the show because instead of being known as the show who won 2 PCA’s they’ll be known as the show whose fans threatened and harassed the PCA’s into a public written apology.
There is something the PCAs can do, and I asked them to do it in my e-mail to them: invite Jensen and Jared to present next year and introduce them as "Last year's winner in SciFi/Fantasy AND Favorite Network Drama." They could also issue a proper apology to the Supernatural cast and crew. Just because someone did something deliberately doesn't mean they shouldn't be called on it, and it doesn't mean they can't be persuaded to rethink their position.
But hey, if you want to be mollified by PR bullshit, feel free.
They should be ashamed and publish a REAL apology to the cast and crew and fans of Supernatural. It should say they are sorry they made such a stupid error and that it would never happen again. They could also acknowledge it was a well deserved win!
I feel so badly they were deprived of their 2 minutes on the stage, but it was an AWESOME win to win Best Drama and so very well deserved by everyone connected to the show.
Had they manned up and said hey we didn't air SPN because it wasn't our choice of show to win. I think most in the fandom would calmed down.
But that was no "Real sincere" Apology that was a backhanded "Blanket" Automated response.
However, one big point remains our show did win those TWO awards and no matter what the PCA's does in regards to this situation, they can't gloss that over no matter what they do! I'm so proud of Supernatural and us the fans that made it happen!!
The show did as much as they could and should. They are not in control of how you react to what they present but still they took the time to apologise for how you felt. Should SPN give you an apology if you don’t like an episode of the show? You got a reason as to why SPN was not there. You decided that reason wasn’t reason enough.
Quote:The PCA’s did exactly what they said they would do. They gave the opportunity for fans to vote, and the show with the most votes would win an award. This is what happened. Nowhere was it stated or implied that if SPN won, their award would be presented live. Therefore the show did exactly what it said it would do. The ‘item’ should not be recalled because the item was not broken. You were not satisfied with the item because it was not what you expected. Other viewers were most probably satisfied with what was delivered therefore there is no need for the product to be recalled.
This is less a case of product recall and more a case of two people in the same restaurant ordering chilli for lunch; the exact same meal was delivered to both but when it arrived one person found out he/she didn’t like chilli. Now, with whom does the fault lie there?
The PCA’s made no promises to you, it did not break its word to you; you made assumptions that the show would be given stage time, you were wrong. Therefore, why do you feel there is a need for an apology owed for something that was never promised?
That being said, you probably will get your written published apology because let’s face it, we’re in the middle of a recession, there are thousands of jobs being lost and hundreds of businesses closing down every day, the threat of a boycott is the one thing that every business is terrified off. However, I hope you’ll be okay with the fact that you effectively held peoples livelihoods to ransom in order to get that apology. For me, an apology given out of fear is no apology at all but that’s just me.
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This is not the Oscars or the Emmys. With those shows, the sole focus of the show is either film or television. If the PCA’s were devoted to one genre then yes, I’d expect SPN to be there; they’re not. This is a mixture of the Oscars, the Emmys, the Grammys and the MTV Movie Awards as, with the PCA’s, there are a number of different genres represented; movie, TV and music so time has to be given to all of those.
People here are saying that 'Favourite Network TV Drama' should have been given air-time but there’s no reason why it should. Looking at the situation impassively, it is one award out of forty three. What makes that particular award more important than say, 'Favourite TV Comedy' or any of the others listed? Each of these categories is of importance to those who voted for them. However, for the awards SPN won to be given air-time; others would have to be dropped. What gives us the right to demand that the awards we won be considered with more weight than others? While SPN is very important to us, in the grand scale of things, it is just another show. Should it be given preferential treatment because we like it more than others?
Quote: And do you have proof, and not mere assumptions, that this is what was done? If you take personal feelings out of it and look at the situation impassively, from an economic point of view, then of course they are going to pick people who are more recognisable worldwide because it would give them a bigger viewing audience and the bigger the audience, the more interest from the advertisers and while it’s unfortunate, that’s always going to be the bottom line. If it was a choice between having Robert Pattinson or Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles, the show would pick Pattinson every time, because even if he wasn’t even nominated for an award, people would still tune in knowing he was there.
However, if Barack Obama made himself available to the PCA’s to present an award then another presenter would quickly be moved aside in order to accommodate him. It’s nothing personal and is certainly not evidence that the show was singled out for unfair treatment.
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rmoats8621, let’s say Grey’s Anatomy won ‘Favourite Network TV Drama’ instead of SPN, and it wasn’t announced live, would you be reacting in the same way? Every show that won was voted for by fans (not just SPN) and so deserved their moment in the spotlight. However, have you expressed your complete disgust in relation to the 28 other winners who were not showcased?
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Why the assumption that the decision to not air ‘Best Network TV Drama’ live was a mistake? There are vast amounts of time and money invested in shows such as the PCA’s so organisers don’t just sit down and go ‘Eeny, Meeney, Miny, Moe’ in order to decide what will be shown and what won’t. These are all deliberated decisions, and each one can be rationalised by the organisers.
Yes, it’d be great if all the winners could get their moment on stage but it’s not going to happen. It would take well over 4 hours to show all 43 winners. Sure they could cut down the amount of time spent on ad breaks (except these advertisements pay for the show so without ad breaks there’d be no show at all) or they could have spent less time on the red carpet (except there is huge interest in celebrity interviews and red carpet style) but the idea that a telecast should show all the winners, while idealistic, from a business point of view is completely unworkable.
Are people entitled to express their ire about something that they don’t like? Yes, of course they are. However, there is a fine line between that and the aggressively militant air that has crept into this campaign; accusations of lying, unfounded allegations and making threats in order to get what you want!
I’m sorry, rmoats8621, I’m sure you were acting with the best interests of the show in mind and your passion for the show is admirable but this extremism is a step too far for me. As Newton said, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction and I would hate to think that the outside reactions to this action could have a long-lasting and damaging effect for the show.
I’m very disappointed that, as a result of this, the next time the boys are nominees/presenters at a ceremony we (and they) won’t know if they’re there because the show organisers believe they deserve to be there or because they’re afraid of backlash from fans who will threaten to ruin them financially if they don’t nominate/invite them. That is indeed a tremendous pity because neither the show, nor its stars, deserves to have that black cloud of scepticism hanging over it when its many merits are being considered.
BTW - The response given by me on the above article was not my original complaint that I sent over to P&G. My original response was concern and disgust on understanding that ALL winners were not announced and/or shown during the telecast! I voted as I'm sure others did for other categories and I never heard who won for them! This was their response back to me which highlighted the Supernatural win. I, in turn, responded back!
I don’t agree with what you’re doing, and I’m not going to lie and say that I do. I have no problem with protest. I’m more into civil disobedience myself but your stance and actions have over 80 comments backing you on this article alone so it’s obviously popular.
Supernatural should write an episode where actors who won PCA awards for their shows suddenly start getting killed off, except for one show's actors because they weren't announced on the air so no one knew they won.
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Why put the show in that category? unless in their minds it was there to just make the numbers up and the show wasnt meant to win I dont know? but it is clear this was poorly judged .
I believe it has been so in every previous year.
This is why it is so suspicious that the same thing wasn't done this year.
Obviously the winners, Supernatural, weren't appreciated by the PCA and they did everything they could to belittle that win.
This is why fans ( and non-fans too ) are annoyed, because it sets a precedent in which the winning show, if not liked by the promoters won't be honoured, and that is just not right.
I voted for the boys as many other fans, world-wide, and it is just petty that they weren't invited on stage to receive their prizes, not 1 but 2 of them!
If that is how they want to proceed then they should find themselves another name like The Awards That The CBS Want To Give Out Show!
The PCA ought to be ashamed of itself, but I feel certain they will never apologise because they don't even have the sensibility to know that they have acted wrongly!
That lets you see how great is their respect for the "People" ! None!
THIS IS NOT NOT ABOUT GENRE. TRUE BLOOD IS THE SAME GENRE. SO OH WHAT COULD IT BE??
I WOULD PUT UP OUR ACTORS INCLUDING GUEST ACTORS UP AGAINST ANY ANY SHOW!!!
PELLIGRINO HAS BEEN ON A ROLL FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW. STEVEN WILLIAMS,BEAVER,RHODES FORGET ABOUT IT.
JENSEN ACKLES IS THE BEST ACTOR PERIOD. INCLUDING CLOONEY,PITT,DAMON, ANY DAMN BODY.
SO THIS IS REALLY ABOUT RESPECT FOR THE SUPERNATURAL FAMILY PERIOD. NOT GENRE AGAINST GENRE. TO WHOMEVER SAID THEY WILL CHANGE THE RULES NEXT YEAR AMEN. WATCH IT HAPPEN JUST WATCH
People Choice Awards, What a shame!
Absolutely disappointed with you.
Supernatural won as the best drama series... It's one of the big prizes and you know it.
You've commit a very, very big mistake doing this. And with explanation, You show how ridiculous you are.
PCA made an arrogant mistake in its perception of Supernatural.
#1) In 2011, was anyone from TVD called to the stage during the live CBS broadcast of TPCA to accept the statue of the Favorite Network TV Drama?
#2) In 2010, was anyone from HOUSE called to the stage during the live CBS broadcast of TPCA to accept the statue of the Favorite Network TV Drama?
If they respond their answer will confirm whether this was a "broadcast time constraint", a genre bias, or simply a SPN snub.
My guess is they will never respond but I will let you know if they do.
I could have understood arguing the time constraints with the scifi award, but not announcing the best network drama? That's tantamount to the Oscars not announcing the best picture category. Sorry, we call bullshit PCA.
But hey, SPN won in the two categories that we wanted them to win, so congratulations to the cast and crew, and congrats to all the fans that voted on our little show that could! I for one am super proud of them, and if they are nominated again next year on TPCA, I will vote as many times as I can again. Will they show up on a ballot next year? I think they will, the people have spoken loud & clear and I don't think they'll have the cojones to diss SPN again. This fanbase is like the leviathans, don't mess with us or we will cover you with black ooze! We are smart, we are everywhere and we are mad as hell.
Jenika from the P&G Team (does not even bother to give his/her last name) stated: "We've made every effort to showcase a variety of categories on the network broadcast" (Okay, I understand about having time limits and constraints--but not to air Fan Favorite Best TV Drama! Give me a break! This category has ALWAYS been mention in the past!) Jenika goes on further to insult Supernatural by saying, "The cast was not invited because their acceptance speeches were not being aired. The cast was aware of this and chose not to attend." (Um, call me crazy but I would not have attended either. What! Just to sit and watch lesser awards be presented by individuals who weren't even nominated.)
I think that one of reasons we the fans are angry with this whole mess, is because SPN has never been given the recognition that it justly deserves. This "over-sight" is just another slap in the face not only for the fans; but also, for Jared, Jensen, and whole gang at SPN. They work really hard for their fans. We show our appreciation by voting for them. They EARNED those awards and should have been invited to accept those awards. The CVS commercial was an unnecessary filler that could have easily been removed to allow SPN to accept the awards that the PEOPLE chose!
Michelle
Pensacola, FL
This isn't just about what was allowed to air, though. This is also about the fact that at no point during the show did they even take a moment to mention who won Best Drama. As if the category didn't even exist this year. As if they didn't want to call attention to it at all.
That aside..
Since finding out Procter & Gamble is in charge of this (although CBS would have some say), I think we can safely assume that this isn't just a snub because they don't like the show, I think it is also about advertising dollars.
I'm not saying I agree with it, but television is a business. It would be very easy for them to look at the Nielsen ratings and decide "Well, more people are going to watch ads for Procter & Gamble products on the following shows...why divert publicity to other places?"
Which, I guess, is of itself a snub, because it is still deeming SPN less important. We know better. In any case, in the end, even this awards show isn't about warm fuzzy feelings, it is about making a buck. Which was made clear by the 10min CVS commercial.
I think both CBS and P&G Entertainment were short-sighted on this, because SPN is already in syndication. Allowing the show a moment of publicity doesn't hurt them, and can only help them.
With CBS, as part owners of The CW, more money would go to the parent company. And with P&G, more people watching a show they already have product placement during would mean more people watching their ads.
CBS Corporation
CBS Headquarters
51 W. 52nd Street
New York, NY 10019-6188
(This address is to the main headquarters, not just the CBS Network. The CBS Network is the site those email forms go to. CBS Broadcasting is who partially owns The CW. I think it is important that they're aware that one of their underlings essentially shot them in the foot by not giving a show on a network they partially own its due, deserved, and earned publicity.)
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The company behind the PCAs:
http://www.proctergambleproductions.com
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A list of all the stuff their company makes and advertises for:
http://www.pg.com/en_US/brands/all_brands.shtml
I will add this, though. I think we need to think very carefully about whether it is worth it to organize a backlash/boycott, or especially to be sending hateful letters.
P&G has a HUGE amount of products (including things like Nyquil, Tampax, Tide..) many of whom have advertised during SPN.
I don't want our show to be put in a position of losing advertising dollars over us holding out for an apology which would only be to shut us up.
I am not trying to say we shouldn't be upset. And I'm not saying we shouldn't express our disappointment. However, at the end of the day, we may need them more than they need us. Deep breaths when making your feelings known.
That said - I do feel we should be organizing some kind of letter writing campaign to The CW/Warner about supporting Supernatural more. We aren't promoted. We weren't even given Season 7 promos pics (all those pics were from the promo shoot they did for S6 - notice Sam's leather jacket which has been in commercial bumpers for SPN since S6).
Not to mention the missed merchandising opportunities (Replica Colt, Ruby's knife, an actual 4-door Impala model, John's journal, the Cas action figure, tell me you wouldn't buy ALL of this.)
The fact is, once Supernatural is on Netflix, more new people COULD jump on board, because it will be easier for them to catch up. They shouldn't just be writing us off as never getting new viewers.
I just think.. an outside organization which is there to sell products is bound to cater in their own self-interest. But it would be lovely to feel the support of the actual network we're on, which might be a fight we stand more of a shot of winning (particularly when we're not angry with them, we just want to encourage).
These are just my thoughts. I'm angry about this too, but I want to make sure our anger is put in a direction that helps us.
My real concern is that the corporations' response will be to prevent Supernatural from being nominated for anything in the future.
On an aside but related why is every other Paley Fest panel available for purchase as a DVD to fund the Paley Media Center but Supernatural ? Supernatural was there twice and our fandom is ardent enough to snap up multiple copies apiece if they want money. For goodness sakes My Name is Earl and Greek is being sold.
If we're going to do any voting for them in the actor category, fandom really needs to choose one and collectively stick to it, whether we're writing them in or not. Split interests aren't going to win it for us, unfortunately.
Perhaps, in future, rather than giving all the time to the categories of best musician, best movie etc...they ought to do best movie, best musician, best tv drama and cut out the ones that aren't as important. There is a way to do it...but you have to prioritize.
I have a feeling that they were expecting VD to win best network drama since the entire cast showed up to the awards. VD may be the most popular show on CW...but our fanbase is more rabid and more loyal and more protective than theirs.
When will people learn...DO NOT PISS OFF THE SUPERNATURAL FANDOM! As The Trickster said in Mystery Spot, "nothing good comes out of it."
An extremely loyal, fiercely protective Supernatural fan
I understand the anger i feel really really upset myself. They robbed us from the 2 minutes in light we earned for the supernatural people.
But calm down and THINk. We don't want to be seen as the crazy fandom, and be remembered as aggressive people (50 years later, think about the fans of the Beatles) even dangerous by some way.
YOU ARE ALSO THE MOST ARTISTIC FANDOM OF THE NET ! You (I don't include myself in it because unfortunately I am only a lurker) are a bunch of genious in fanvid, fanfic, and other stuff. You helped to promote a show like anyone before. So please, think about it. And don't forget that in our world it's not the aggressive who win but the classy funny snarky one.
I don't know; pour salt on the doors of WB and post it on YT or something like that ... well, enough with the bad ideas, I'm not good at that. But I have trust in you.
FIRST OF ALL ONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE SAME.
THEY SOUND LIKE A 1% TO ME.
A FAMOUS ACTOR SAID U NEED AGITATORS TO GET THE WASH CLEAN.
I DONT GIVE A SHIT WHAT ANYONE SAYS, THE GOLDEN GLOBES ARE ON TONIGHT AND THATS MY 2ND FAVORITE AWARDS SHOW.
ITS THE PEOPLES CHOICE AND THE BEST DRAMA NOT BEST KIDDIE SHOW. THAT IS MOST HIGH. DO U GET IT. YOU CORPORATE TALK HOLE OR PAID LIAR. WHAT OR WHOMEVER U ARE.
HAVE A BLESSED DAY.
I love this! Thank you for sharing it!
After all the uproar the fandom came up with I don't think that PCA would dare to ignore the show two years in a row if they win again.
Since i live in Europe I wasn't able to watch it. But I know that a lot of magazines and occasianally even some TV information shows let us know here who won at an award show in the states. Last year I even saw some short clipses of the PCA.
Therefore I think it is a huge advertisement for what ever show that is able to receive something on stage because those are more memorable then the short clipses of the left out winners. Our show as well as CW would have gotten a huge advertisement which is well needed.
Two years ago while I vacationed in Barcelona I took the opportunity and asked a few young Americans if they have ever heard of the CW and they all but one declined. The one person who has ever heard of the CW was a young male who said that he heard of the teenage channel but he is to old (mid-twenties) to watch it.
I think this is the reason why the CW needs some more air time. To make it widely known to the people in the states. That could change a lot. Not that I watch a lot of their shows but hey they got my favourite TV show and they could do with a lot more viewers, if people would only know it excisted.
So this? Yeah, it angers me. A lot. Sorry. (About as sorry as the PCA people feel, apparently...) Not because I wanted MY opinion acknowledged and respected like the People's Choice Awards was meant to do, but because Supernatural is an under-appreciated, obscure show, and it deserves that acknowledgement and respect. The actors, the writers, the crew, etc., all deserve that. And the fact that they actually managed to win, then get so blatantly snubbed really, REALLY grates on my nerves.
Let's face it, we're probably not going to get an apology or an admission that it was the wrong thing to do. Personally, I have my fingers crossed for that apocalyptic award-show episode someone mentioned (and I'm seriously expecting it now, knowing how meta our beloved writers can be). Boom, that's the extra episode this year. It would be cathartic for everyone involved. :)
I doubt any of the people associated with Supernatural are reading this, but if there are, I hope they know that we love them for being spectacular and amazing and awesome, and that they won because they deserved it. Rock on!
By the way, I mentioned this bullshit to my mom. She asked I put this in: >:( So there. I hope that frowny-face haunts CBS and P & G for being callous dickheads.
The people responsible for the PCAs screwed us and them. No question. But I think we all deserve a big round of applause for getting them the awards in the first place! They deserved it and we got it for them.
We’ve raised money for St. Jude’s, American Cancer Society and several other worthy causes. We. Are. Awesome!
Anyway, to paraphrase one of my favourite authors (Julie Garwood - yup, I read romances)...
"One voice added to a thousand others becomes a roar."
We are roaring - I bet they hear us.
Am pretty sure if any other show would have won other than supernatural it would have been on tv..who gives a shit if you dont agree with the win. you didnt stay up until 2 am voting everyday until the last day, we did (fans), so go fuck yourseft in all the wrong the places
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