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“Like a Virgin” Episode 6/12
Robin’s Rambles by Robin Vogel
An incredible montage of scenes from all six of the previous seasons plays over "Back in the Saddle Again," and I know my heart was beating hard in my chest as I watched. There was mention of alphas, mothers, and an overview of what happened when RoboSam returned, all the way to the final, awful scene when Death shoved his soul back into his body as Sam screamed in agony.
Cut to a scene straight out of "Phantom Traveler," in which a couple is flying through a terrible thunderstorm. The young, very nervous young woman spots something HUGE flying by the plane and is immediately panic-stricken, but her boyfriend asks for just a few more minutes, assuring her it was just a bird. She's sure it was NOT a bird, and he urges her to close her eyes, lean back, relax, think of beaches for a few moments. She reluctantly does so, only to hear him cry out as glass breaks and he is violently pulled from the plane. She opens her eyes, he's gone, the plane is going down! She holds on as the plane fills with rain and lightning and screams in terror.
Editor's comments: This felt so much more like an episode of old! I know, we had the old Sam back, but it felt like we had the old DEAN back, too, so protective of his brother! Watching all those scenes from previous eps over that classic rock song made me feel like crying. Sounds sappy, I know, but this season of SUPERNATURAL hasn't been the same for me, and I've missed so many elements from what I remember! It felt to me like my favorite show was back in the saddle again, and they--and we--were riding high and happy!
As for the opening scene, I hate when they do stuff that makes me afraid to do stuff--like flying! It sure was scary and effective.
Dean waits anxiously outside the panic room as Castiel comes out, sliding down his sleeve. "His soul is in place," says Cas. "When is he going to wake up?" asks Dean. "I'm not a human doctor," says Cas. Dean wants him to guess. "OK, probably not," says Cas. Dean's annoyed at the lack of sugar coating, but Cas adds, "I'm sorry, Dean, but I warned you not to put that thing back inside him," says Cas. "What was I supposed to do?" demands Dean--"let T-1000 walk around, hope he doesn't open fire?" "I can tell you what his soul felt like when I touched it," says Cas harshly, "like it had been skinned alive! If you'd wanted to kill your brother, you should have done it outright." (OUCH!) Cas flies off, leaving Dean to chew on THAT guilty thought a while.
Upstairs, Bobby pours the two of them a drink. "Like my daddy said, just because it kills your liver don't mean it ain't medicine," he says. (Lots of REAL drugs kill your liver!) "Sam still asleep?" Dean nods. "He'll wake up," Bobby assures him. "Yeah," says Dean uncertainly. "He's been through how much?" asks Bobby, "somehow, he always bounces back." "He's never been through this," says Dean. He notes a newspaper article Bobby's looking at. "Job?" Dean's willing to help, even go to the library--anything. Bobby explains that a couple went up in a light plane. The guy was just found in the woods. Couple of Buddy Hollies? asks Dean--doesn't seem like world of the weird. "Pilot was found 17 miles away--flambeed," says Bobby, "girl's just gone, no body, no nothin'." "OK, I'm not changin' the channel," says Dean. "Dean?" says Sam behind him. Bobby stares, eyes huge. "Sam?" asks Dean, a million questions in the name. Sam hugs him, tight. Dean, after a few seconds, returns it. Sam holds him away, looks at him, smiles gratefully, then releases him to draw Bobby into a hug, too. "Good to see you," says Bobby, without enthusiasm. "Wait--I saw Lucifer snap your neck," says Sam. "Well, Cas," begins Bobby. "Cas is alive?" asks Sam joyfully. "Cas is fine," says Dean, "Sam, are you OK?" "Actually," says Sam, "I'm starving." This looks like the best news Dean's ever heard.
Around a table where Sam is scarfing up a sandwich and beer, Dean asks, "So Sam, what's the last thing you remember?" "The field, and then I fell," says Sam, as we once again see the scene where he and Adam go over into the cage. "OK, and then?" asks Dean. "I woke up in the panic room," answers Sam. (WHOA, that's a lot of missing time!) "That's it?" asks Bobby, "you really don't remember. . .? "Let's be glad!" interjects Dean quickly, giving Bobby a significant look--"who wants to remember all that hell." "How long was I gone?" asks Sam. "About a year and a half," says Dean. "WHAT?" says Sam, flummoxed--"I was downstairs. . .I don't remember anything!--so how did I get back, was it Cas?" "Not exactly says Dean. "What did you do?" Sam asks his brother. "Me and Death," admits Dean. "DEATH? The Horseman?" exclaims Sam. "I had leverage--it's done," Dean assures him. "You sure?" asks Sam. "It's over," says Dean firmly, "the slate's wiped." "Well, isn't this just neat and clean," says Bobby sarcastically. "Yes, it is, for once," says Dean, but Sam, sensing something awry, asks, "Is there anything else I should know?" "No," says Dean, smiling, "another beer?" "Yeah," says Sam.
Later, Bobby, dressed in a manly apron, works under a car. Dean, beer in hand, joins him. "How is he?" Bobby asks. "Good, really good, better than I could have hoped," Dean answers. "Mmmhmm," says Bobby sourly. "Why the poop face?" asks Dean. "I'm glad he's better, I really am," says Bobby, "but that kid went straight-up Menendez on me not 10 days ago, and now it's all just erased? Sorry, but I'm havin' a hard time even looking at him." "It wasn't Sam," Dean reminds him. "Maybe it wasn't ALL Sam," says Bobby, "but it was him, Dean. "What do you want to do, tell him everything?" asks Dean. "No, I just wish I could, that's all," admits Bobby. "If we start doin' that crap, we don't know what'll happen, it could crack the wall," warns Dean. Bobby knows. To Dean, this is a gift horse, and he's not looking for teeth--"I'm sending Death a damn fruit basket!" "He's gonna find out," warns Bobby, "one way or another, somebody'll tell him or he'll figure it out on his own, he's not dumb, he should hear it from us." "Could we just leave it alone for the moment, please?" pleads Dean. "OK," says Bobby, tossing up his hands and picking up a wrench, "but you'd better prep for the B-side, because when Sam realizes we're shinin' him, it ain't gonna be cute." Dean takes a swallow of beer.
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There again, the hug didn't move me, because I don't believe in the brothers' bond right now. It's been one-sided for four years now. Perhaps it will hold from this starting point, but from what I've read about future episodes, I am not counting on it. Let's just say that Bobby and I are feeling about the same right now.
Besides the witty one-liners, the music (which I think added to the vintage feel of the episode) and reminders of the two characters I used to obsess over, I found some other funny things in this episode.
I'm still laughing at Gossip Girl Mother. Perhaps I'm supposed to be filled with apprehension for the brothers, but her acting was so bad, I laughed out loud.
As soon as I see my priest again, I'm going to let him know that you can drive to Purgatory. I think he'll like knowing that, and may even find it useful.
Of course, I'm being flippant and these two things are not criticisms of the episode. It's just that I think perhaps they didn't have the budget to get into this type of metaphysical stuff, besides the fact that attempting to elevate the show to this level of fantasy appears to me to be the reason that there is a lack of intimacy in relationships now.
All that said, I am looking forward with reservation and a little trepidation to what the rest of the season holds for us.
Don't take this to be all critical and without appreciation for Like a Virgin. There was so much to like in it. The three Js were awesome...and I thought particularly Jim Beaver this time around...perhaps because he mirrored my feelings right up to the end. He did seem very relaxed in his role this episode, didn't he?
It's all on Sera now. I wished I had more confidence in her, but my disappointment in S6 trumps confidence and hope in spite of this well-done episode.
I'm hoping I don't offend anyone with my opinion, because it is only just how I am feeling about the show this season.
Quote: Mixed feelings here. Dean was right in principle, maintaining the wall is crucial and giving Sam any information that will make him want to scratch at the wall is dangerous. The fact is the year he spent soulless is behind that wall and if that part falls the rest may weaken. Bobby was right practically. Sam is smart, inquisitive and doesn't give up. Giving him the information about the past year will keep him from scratching at the niggling thoughts that something has happened that he cant remember and may actually have Sam scratching at the wall because he doesn't remember things. I think the point goes to Bobby, because Sam found out anyway.
3. Do you agree that a girl of 22 should have given it up already? How do you feel about this whole purity thing? Apparently, the girl the dragons needed had to be virginal. Why do you think that is so?
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I will always miss Crowley. Give me snarky and witty and I'm happy. I felt the girl's terror, but I don't know how I feel about Mother as an adversary. I would love a kick a** female adversary, but Supernatural has let me down on this time and time again, so I'm going to have to wait and see.
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I loved the Sam Dean hug. I find the fact that Sam stopped the Castiel hug interesting. I'd like to know why he did stop it exactly.
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Perfect balance of humor.
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I love the return of classic rock. Not knowing a lot of classic rock, the actual songs didn't do much for me. I wish they had only played one and kept the music budget so we could have more classic songs in later episodes.
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Loved the episode. All in all one of my favorites.
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I understand that Dean tried to protect Sam in not telling Sam. But I wish he would have told him later about his soulless time on earth. Sam found it out by his own and Bobbys behavior gave him the clue. That is not surprising when I think of Sam!
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I loved this hug between the brothers.
And I loved the reaction of Sam when Castiel tried to hug him. Back then in "Swan Song" he didn`t even want to say some nice words to Sam. Awkward!
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well I loved the light hearted brotherly banter in this episode. I wished I would have seen more Sam waking up and struggling a bit. He is like a tumbler, and everybody is used to it. I would have liked to see him coming upstairs, not seeing Dean/Bobby. But maybe it was shown to bring out the difference between Bobbys reaction and Deans! The brotherly banter was the tip of the ice cake for me, loved it. And loved Sam asking Dean about the year..after. Consistent Sam`s character.
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Loved the music of course, finally and so much Sam in the intro, loved this too!
I felt very bad for this girl before they threw her into the hole. But later when she came back I was a bit disappointed. This should be the new big bad? I don`t know about this. I liked the snarky demons, the torturing demons (Crowley and Alistair and of course YED and Lucifer)
About the virgins I don`t know but maybe they are more worthy for sacrifices, their souls are more pure (okay we know this is not so in real life, one has nothing to do with the other).
maybe with the purity the purgatory gets some fueling fire, I don`t know where the series is going with this.
Sam was a lot like a cleansed pure being. He was so light hearted and even wanted to eat, I was surprised about this. I don`t know if this could have a deper meaning because over the whole 5 1/2 years Sam wasn`t a joyful eater more the contrary. Its like a burden is heaved away, but ...yes there is a but,..his soulless time will hit him utterly I am afraid!
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I loved it very much and I already watched it a few times. And after re-watching I truly started to enjoy it way more then the first time, because I read so much about the episode, I knew to much, and with the delay so much excitement was dragged away. Today I was really utterly touched by the brother scenes and especially Sam with his quest for the things he didn`t know. *gulp* and *sigh* I am very afraid and worried.
Thank you for writing this again. I waited for your rambles!!!
thanks for taking us through the episode again.
I´ve been looking forward to your questions.
1. I very much enjoyed watching it the first time, and since then, through rewatching and reading and commenting it has continuously been growing on me.
I loved the brotherly parts, the way the reunion was handled.
I wasn´t all that thrilled about the dragons and I´m not completely sold on the Mother of All storyline yet, but the main point for me was Sammy coming back anyways. They had to introduce the storyline and it will have its place, but all in due time.
This time it was about the brothers being reunited and they did it beautifully. So yes I´m happy.
2. Should they have told Sam right away?
I agree with Bobby, and Sam, they should have told him, but Dean did understand this, he knew Sam´d have to know, and that there was no way they could keep it from him - judging from the conversation he had with Bobby.
I actually agree with Dean that giving them a little time, a few moments of peace for them both wouldn´t hurt.
Dean´s decision to not talk is based on love and the wish to protect - and the wish to pretend that all was well and nothing bad could ever happen again, refusal to deal with the terrible things that could still happen.
Bobby´s pushing to tell Sam is part common sense, part the wish to voice his grievance against Sam. I think not having the act acknowledged by his would-be murderer is keeping him from letting it go. I don´t think he is truly blaming Sam, resouled Sam, but he still needs to say to him: "I swear you scared the hell out of me", or something along that line, something to allow him to move on. As it is, he is stuck.
Dean doesn´t have that kind of problem because he has resorted to his patent solution to complex problems: make them as black and white as possible, and you´ll muddle through. Deep inside he does understand by now that this isn´t how the world works, but it does help him cope. Here, he has decided that RoboSam was not Sam, thus Sammy is not to be blamed for anything. I´m sure that deep down he does carry resentment for what happened, but keeping it down until it has somehow trickled away is just his way of dealing, of forgiving, always has been. To an extent, it works for him. So not telling Sam works well with that.
3. What I think of virginty/purity? Should a 22yr old have had sex?
Tricky question. Basically, my take on things is to each his own.
I do not like the whole virginity thing, though, because it suggests, or rather states outright, that sex is impure, which is not how I see it.
It also suggests that someone who has not had sex is pure, innocent, when this can be the furthest thing from the truth.
If purity is to be an issue, I would rather go for purity of heart, a gentle, loving soul. Having sex would not take away from that kind of purity.
Same as a vicious or hateful virgin would not be pure to me (not suggesting virgins are, only saying that purity and virginity aren´t the same thing to me at all).
While I feel that everybody should decide for themselves, I do get the impression that girls are being pushed in a way by suggesting that having no sex (yet) somehow makes them a better person. If someone feels that way, fine, I just don´t like the pushing, no matter what form it comes in.
4. How I felt about the scene with the sacrifice and Mother emerging?
I felt the girl´s terror, that scene was very well done (which gives me hope for a good portrayal of the Mother - the actress sold her terror, maybe she´ll be able to sell the Mother as well).
As I said, I´m undecided and mostly confused about the abundance of monsters and storylines, and waiting for them to be tied together. Maybe it´ll be great.
Doesn´t keep me from missing Crowley, even though he was never the Big Baddie to me.
5. The hugs?
I loved the Sam/Dean hug, more than anything I was reminded of the Mystery Spot hug, just plain feeling, pure happiness and relief to see his brother alive and well on Sam´s part, and Dean first blown away and then reacting.
It was beautifully done and touching.
As for Sam and Cas, that was very painful to watch.
As I wrote in the Friday thread, I think that Sam stopped the hug because he was about to "play" Cas. Being a good liar, but a very sincere person at heart, I imagine he felt bad about lying to him, and showing him affection right before he did it would have made the affection part of the lie. He even commented on the non-hug, which made the scene even more awkward, because I think he couldn´t bring himself to rebuff Cas completely.
In quite a painful way, that scene was touching too.
6. I quite liked the humour in this episode.
The whole sword thing was hilarious, and so was the virgins part.
My second place goes to Dean, wondering who would want virgins, when they could have women with experience, apparently completely forgetting for a moment what they were actually talking about.
First prize goes to Dr. V and the look she gives Dean when he asks her to trust her with the dynamite. That one sent me to the floor laughing.
7. The rock music?
I´m sorry to admit, I rarely notice the music, which is a good sign, I suppose, it seems to go well with the rest. I do love some of the songs they have played, but this episode´s didn´t stick out for me.
8. I liked the title, I thought it fit Sam and his situation quite nicely, at first glance.
And I´m one happy fan about this episode.
zippo = Feuerzeug
#1 I loved this epi. I rewatched it right a way (something I have never done before)
#2 Well I thought Dean was about to tell Sam in the motel room but could not make up his mind. Yes Sam must know (better to know than to remember)
#3 I go with the purity of the heard thing
#4 I fellt so for the girl. As for the mother, I don´t know. She didn´t have much time to angst me.
#5 I loved the hug between Sam and Dean. It felt sooooo goooood. As for Sam and Cas. I´m lost. Why didn´t Sam hug Cas? He should have! Cas is not the touchy guy and he wanted to give Sam a hug. I just don´t get it.
#6 OMG Dean was so good. I have to lought just remember the szene.
#7 Finaly the music is back I loved the On the road so far
To Pandora: thank you
Thanks again for such a detailed recap.
1. Did this episode please you as much as it did me? Or am I crazy? Do you feel like you’re back home again?
This episode worked for me and I definately felt like I was home again. I really enjoyed having the brothers back.
2. Do you agree with Dean or Bobby? Should Sam be kept completely in the dark and be allowed to believe he was in hell for more than a year?
I would say Bobby is right but I feel baby steps are needed here. To tell Sam everything at once would be too much to absorbe and far too devasting. If he hears things in bits and pieces it will give him a chance to deal and work things through with each issue. This wall was only given 75% chance of holding. I think it's better for Sam to be somewhat prepared instead of being hit with it all at once.
3. Do you agree that a girl of 22 should have given it up already? How do you feel about this whole purity thing? Apparently, the girl the dragons needed had to be virginal. Why do you think that is so?
I don't see why there should be a age stamped on when one should give up their virginity. It should depend on who they are willing to give it up for. Sacrificing a virgin goes back centuries. I guess back then it ment purity. However in todays world just because someone is a virgin doesn't make them automatically a pure person.
4. How did what happened to that girl who was exchanged with the “Mother of All” make you feel? Did you feel her terror as she fell? What do you think happened to her down in Purgatory, if, indeed, that’s where she went? Do you get the impression that she’s going to be our next Big Bad? Did she give you a trickle of fear, or are you already missing Crowley?
I believe this Mother of All is our next big bad. Not sure how I feel about her yet. Need to see a few more episodes to get a better impression.
5. How did you feel about the Sam/Dean hug? What about the Sam/Castiel hug that didn’t happen?
I loved the hug between Sam and Dean. It reminded me too of Mystery Spot with Sam going to Dean and enclosing him in a huge bear hug. As for Sam and Castiels hug I would have to agree with Yume theory.
6. How about the HUMOR in this ep? Too much, not enough, thank God for the writers’ golden pens, what?
I loved the humour. Dean and the Stone had me laughing.
7. ROCK MUSIC! And Jethro Tull, my favorite band of all time!!!! Plus “Back in the Saddle Again,” a song I just love! How did you feel about the music?
The music was good. After having the classic rock being so scarce these past few years, it's always appreciated to have it when we can.
BUT I loved this episode!
Thanks Robin for your review. And the transcript, as junkerin said, it helps a lot us ESL speakers.
All best!
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